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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:04 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Nay, remember equality of outcome...

You haven't listened to a word of what we said, have you?
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Postby New Amerik » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:07 am

Except that it's Equality of Distribution, not Equality of Outcome....

Hell, I disagree with Communism in RL and even I support the people you're arguing against!
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:07 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Nay, remember equality of outcome...

You haven't listened to a word of what we said, have you?

I mean that your beliefs conflict with another leftist belief called equality of outcome.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:08 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Nay, remember equality of outcome...

You haven't listened to a word of what we said, have you?


I'm fairly sure that Eternal Yerushalayim is simply a chat bot. None of his replies show any understanding of what he reads.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:08 am

New Amerik wrote:Except that it's Equality of Distribution, not Equality of Outcome....

Hell, I disagree with Communism in RL and even I support the people you're arguing against!

Equality of distribution usually leads to equality of outcome with Progressive taxation.
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:09 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Amerik wrote:Except that it's Equality of Distribution, not Equality of Outcome....

Hell, I disagree with Communism in RL and even I support the people you're arguing against!

Equality of distribution usually leads to equality of outcome with Progressive taxation.


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Postby The Tofu Islands » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:10 am

Hmm. I see that Martaz hasn't reappeared to respond to me yet...

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Both?
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Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:The goal of socialism is communism.

Wrong. There are probably forms of socialism where that is the case, but it is not true of all forms.

Collective Systems wrote:"A stateless society is not a chaotic society. An anarchistic society is a chaotic society."

No, anarchy doesn't imply chaos. It merely implies a lack of rulers or hierarchy (hence, "an-archy" -- "no-rulers"). The anarchist FAQ is a good place to start if you want to learn more about it.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:10 am

New Amerik wrote:Except that it's Equality of Distribution, not Equality of Outcome....

Hell, I disagree with Communism in RL and even I support the people you're arguing against!

I know... I'm supposed to be a cold-hearted right-wing Libertarian bastard, and I've been arguing for socialism and communism for 12 pages, dammit!
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:11 am

I quoted a quote.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:11 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Amerik wrote:Except that it's Equality of Distribution, not Equality of Outcome....

Hell, I disagree with Communism in RL and even I support the people you're arguing against!

Equality of distribution usually leads to equality of outcome with Progressive taxation.


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You earn $100 a month. I'll take $90 from you.
You earn $20 a month. I'll take $10 from you. I'll give both of you the same amount of services, because of my belief in equality of distribution. And the result IS equality of outcome.
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Postby New Amerik » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:11 am

I'll leave, but one more thing:

Eternal Yerushalayim's national animal is the Lamb, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation

Might want to stop bulldozing down your natural enviroment, eh? ;)
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:12 am

The Tofu Islands wrote:Hmm. I see that Martaz hasn't reappeared to respond to me yet...

Natapoc wrote:Am I insane or is this conversation incoherent?

Both?
;)

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:The goal of socialism is communism.

Wrong. There are probably forms of socialism where that is the case, but it is not true of all forms.

Collective Systems wrote:"A stateless society is not a chaotic society. An anarchistic society is a chaotic society."

No, anarchy doesn't imply chaos. It merely implies a lack of rulers or hierarchy (hence, "an-archy" -- "no-rulers"). The anarchist FAQ is a good place to start if you want to learn more about it.

A commie said that.
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:13 am

How about we all leave and let him soak in his misguided bliss until he falls in the revolution. Who's going to be there to save you when it's over, eh?

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:13 am

New Amerik wrote:I'll leave, but one more thing:

Eternal Yerushalayim's national animal is the Lamb, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation

Might want to stop bulldozing down your natural enviroment, eh? ;)

What? Well, I don't know what I chose, at night(at least in SG).
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:14 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:A commie said that.


Are they supposed to be infallible?
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:14 am

Collective Systems wrote:How about we all leave and let him soak in his misguided bliss until he falls in the revolution. Who's going to be there to save you when it's over, eh?

I wouldn't agree to the "revolution" even if you slaughter me.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:15 am

New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:A commie said that.


Are they supposed to be infallible?

No, so you can stop quoting Reagan and saying conservatives are selfish based on that.
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:15 am

:palm:

It's not a physical revolution.

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Postby The Tofu Islands » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:15 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:A commie said that.

Yeah, but I think at least two commies in this thread said otherwise.
:p

Plus, whichever commie said that was probably not speaking for all communists, nor for all socialists. So I fail to see how it matters.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:15 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:How about we all leave and let him soak in his misguided bliss until he falls in the revolution. Who's going to be there to save you when it's over, eh?

I wouldn't agree to the "revolution" even if you slaughter me.


Luckily, the revolution does not require your agreement.
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Postby New Amerik » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:16 am

Collective Systems wrote:How about we all leave and let him soak in his misguided bliss until he falls in the revolution. Who's going to be there to save you when it's over, eh?


Hey, as long as he's a productive worker, I'LL let him join the revolution!

joking, joking...
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:16 am

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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:16 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:A commie said that.


Are they supposed to be infallible?

No, so you can stop quoting Reagan and saying conservatives are selfish based on that.


A rebuttal in two parts:

I've done that?

and

You admit that Regan is wrong?
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:16 am

The Tofu Islands wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:A commie said that.

Yeah, but I think at least two commies in this thread said otherwise.
:p

Plus, whichever commie said that was probably not speaking for all communists, nor for all socialists. So I fail to see how it matters.


Which commies said that in this thread?
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Postby Balavoria » Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:17 am

why is it getting so deep into this?

i think it's a great analogy. Socialists are people who distribute evenly (or want to). Capitalists work for what they gain and they keep what they earn.

i could go into the human nature factor but i don't think it's very relevant.

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