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Postby The Christian Reich » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:21 am

That was great. Were did you get it?
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I thought there would be more references to cheese and cats in that post.


They have an app for that. ;)

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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:21 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:And that class is only the lower class. If the higher classes remain, they'd become lower classes.

There will be no classes. What aren't you understanding here?

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:22 am

The Christian Reich wrote:That was great. Were did you get it?

Apparently from conservapedia, but I do need conservative help!
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:23 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:And that class is only the lower class. If the higher classes remain, they'd become lower classes.

There will be no classes. What aren't you understanding here?

How would you make the (at first) higher classes automatically disappear after your "revolution". Will your communism provide equal services for everyone(and every service indeed)? Is that fair if the people don't work and get to enjoy it?
"The trouble with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."-Margaret Thatcher
"Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. " -Saint Augustine
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"The first and simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind, is curiosity." -Edmund Burke

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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:26 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:How would you make the (at first) higher classes automatically disappear after your "revolution". Will your communism provide equal services for everyone(and every service indeed)? Is that fair if the people don't work and get to enjoy it?

They're going to work because without work there is anarchy. Let me explain it in terms you will understand (hopefully).

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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:27 am

Collective Systems wrote:They're going to work because without work there is anarchy. Let me explain it in terms you will understand (hopefully).

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Not really. Communism is anarchic. They work because Marx was an idealist.
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Postby Grandais » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:28 am

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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:29 am

New Kereptica wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:They're going to work because without work there is anarchy. Let me explain it in terms you will understand (hopefully).

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Not really. Communism is anarchic. They work because Marx was an idealist.

Anarcho-communism. I am referring to the fine-line between them.

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:29 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:How would you make the (at first) higher classes automatically disappear after your "revolution". Will your communism provide equal services for everyone(and every service indeed)? Is that fair if the people don't work and get to enjoy it?

They're going to work because without work there is anarchy. Let me explain it in terms you will understand (hopefully).

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Without work there is anarchy... So you are gonna force everyone to work?
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:30 am

Grandais wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_each_according_to_his_ability,_to_each_according_to_his_need

Have fun!

My ability is to give $1000 dollars to you, my need is to take $200 from you.
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:31 am

Did you not just read the link Grandais posted?

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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:31 am

Collective Systems wrote:Anarcho-communism. I am referring to the fine-line between them.


Anarcho-communism is redundant. Communism is stateless.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

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Postby Barringtonia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:31 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Without work there is anarchy... So you are gonna force everyone to work?


Yes, in big factories where they will need to chant the name of the Dear Leader in unison, otherwise they will all be shot,

Is that what you want to hear?
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:32 am

Collective Systems wrote:Did you not just read the link Grandais posted?

Give to the best of your ability, take to the best of your need doesn't say anything about your deserving that need.
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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:32 am

New Kereptica wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:Anarcho-communism. I am referring to the fine-line between them.


Anarcho-communism is redundant. Communism is stateless.

"A stateless society is not a chaotic society. An anarchistic society is a chaotic society."

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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:32 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:Did you not just read the link Grandais posted?

Give to the best of your ability, take to the best of your need doesn't say anything about your deserving that need.

You have to read more than the title.

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Postby Grandais » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:32 am

Barringtonia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Without work there is anarchy... So you are gonna force everyone to work?


Yes, in big factories where they will need to chant the name of the Dear Leader in unison, otherwise they will all be shot,

Is that what you want to hear?

This isn't communism either. :3
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:33 am

Barringtonia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Without work there is anarchy... So you are gonna force everyone to work?


Yes, in big factories where they will need to chant the name of the Dear Leader in unison, otherwise they will all be shot,

Is that what you want to hear?

Wow, Marx '12!!!!!
Actually, it would be better to have Dead Marx for President and Margaret Thatcher for Vice President '12
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"Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe. " -Saint Augustine
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"The first and simplest emotion which we discover in the human mind, is curiosity." -Edmund Burke

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Postby Grandais » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:34 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Without work there is anarchy... So you are gonna force everyone to work?


Yes, in big factories where they will need to chant the name of the Dear Leader in unison, otherwise they will all be shot,

Is that what you want to hear?

Wow, Marx '12!!!!!
Actually, it would be better to have Dead Marx for President and Margaret Thatcher for Vice President '12

I would think that Dead Lenin is in better condition.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:34 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Without work there is anarchy... So you are gonna force everyone to work?


Yes, in big factories where they will need to chant the name of the Dear Leader in unison, otherwise they will all be shot,

Is that what you want to hear?

Wow, Marx '12!!!!!
Actually, it would be better to have Dead Marx for President and Margaret Thatcher for Vice President '12

You have no idea what communism is, do you?
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Postby New Kereptica » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:34 am

Collective Systems wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Collective Systems wrote:Anarcho-communism. I am referring to the fine-line between them.


Anarcho-communism is redundant. Communism is stateless.

"A stateless society is not a chaotic society. An anarchistic society is a chaotic society."


Anarchy is not chaotic; it's the lack of leaders, and more generally, the lack of government. Anomie more closely describes the state which you're describing.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

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Postby Collective Systems » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:35 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:You have no idea what communism is, do you?

I think we have established that....

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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:36 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_his_contribution

Funny Marx could even think of using this sort of thing. Your contribution's value is determined by you alone before the contract, and the boss alone after that.
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Postby Grandais » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:36 am

I think we have established that almost nobody in this topic knows what socialism or communism is.

I came in here to critique the OP but it looks like we'e moved on from there.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:37 am

Collective Systems wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:You have no idea what communism is, do you?

I think we have established that....

I believe so. that doesn't stop him from trying, though.
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