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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:50 am

Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

What???
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Postby Barringtonia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:51 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Barringtonia wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:Do you believe that there are actually people out there who live an actual, enjoyable life without ever working a single day?


Some of them even become president actually,


Kind of my point. The only people who actually do that are the incredibly wealthy, not the incredibly poor.


As my post on the previous page states, GWB had a GPA of 2.35 at Yale, a lovely comment on the OPs analogy,
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Postby Albignano » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:51 am

South Norwega wrote:
Kalasparata wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!

Oh Bullcrap.

What do you know, of economics and politics?

The majority of people, not everyone, but the majority of people on welfare would like to get off welfare, but the can't get jobs. That's the way it works. The majority of unemployed workers are generally between jobs, rather than lounging around on the dole.


Looking at what he writes in his posts... he knows REALLY zero!
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:51 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Explain to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.
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Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

NationStates General.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:53 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.

Because the employer is blind and the best will probably get a job somewhere better than that shit of a workplace.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:53 am

Kalasparata wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in.


The one where violet is indeed the dominant visible colour of the sky.
That our eyes are racist and prefer blue does not make this any less of a fact ;)
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Postby South Norwega » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:53 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.

It's all the fault of those eeeevil socialists and their communist minimum wage laws denying hard working Americans the chance to exploit workers, which would of course create more employment. :)
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Postby Wilson Mills » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:53 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Wilson Mills wrote:You missed one little point...they tax you who works, to give to him who doesn't work.

Oh and BTW, I love how I keep reading in this thread about taxes being a contribution...I don't contribute a damn thing...my money is confiscated every year, not contributed.


No, they tax me who works to give to me if I ever don't work.

Do you believe that there are actually people out there who live an actual, enjoyable life without ever working a single day?

Yes, I've known some of them. I resent having to "contribute" so that they can continue to enjoy a lifestyle that in some cases outstrips my own.

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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:54 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.

i'm afraid there's no such thing as prove "why?".

Sorry, wrong word. Explain to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.
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Postby Barringtonia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:54 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

NationStates General.


Oh my GOD!

You put the work in to gain that knowledge Blitz and you just welfared it to Kalasparata who's just been partying around this thread and asking questions as if the world owes them a living,

Goddamn commie!
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Postby Sdaeriji » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:55 am

Wilson Mills wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Wilson Mills wrote:You missed one little point...they tax you who works, to give to him who doesn't work.

Oh and BTW, I love how I keep reading in this thread about taxes being a contribution...I don't contribute a damn thing...my money is confiscated every year, not contributed.


No, they tax me who works to give to me if I ever don't work.

Do you believe that there are actually people out there who live an actual, enjoyable life without ever working a single day?

Yes, I've known some of them. I resent having to "contribute" so that they can continue to enjoy a lifestyle that in some cases outstrips my own.


No, you don't. They don't exist.
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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:55 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.

Because the employer is blind and the best will probably get a job somewhere better than that shit of a workplace.

And still there are no takers for such a valuable resource from anywhere. Why?
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Postby Kalasparata » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:56 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

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Is that THIS forum?
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Postby Barringtonia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:58 am

Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

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Is that THIS forum?


Stop asking for welfare handouts and go find out yourself, why should we impart our hard-earned knowledge to a lay-about like you,
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:58 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.

Because the employer is blind and the best will probably get a job somewhere better than that shit of a workplace.

And still there are no takers for such a valuable resource from anywhere. Why?

Because bosses are stupid and you'd probably be better off starting a business with a loan and employing your fellow workers. Really- if you keep thinking that the big bosses are really taking advantage of workers, businesses can never succeed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:58 am

Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.
Because the employer is blind and the best will probably get a job somewhere better than that shit of a workplace.

And still there are no takers for such a valuable resource from anywhere. Why?

Then those resources aren't as valuable as you or they think. It's their duty to crawl out of the work force and die quietly somewhere.
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Postby Natapoc » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:58 am

Wilson Mills wrote:Yes, I've known some of them. I resent having to "contribute" so that they can continue to enjoy a lifestyle that in some cases outstrips my own.


Fraud is always frustrating but should not be used as an excuse to punish or delegitimize people who actually need the help.

There are always fraudsters in any endeavour that involves money, points, or scoring. But we don't let the fraudsters dictate policy. We don't let the fraudsters be the excuse to stop helping others.
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Postby Eternal Yerushalayim » Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:58 am

Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

NationStates General.

Is that THIS forum?

It is as an act of charity.
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Postby Wilson Mills » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:00 am

Sdaeriji wrote:
Wilson Mills wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Wilson Mills wrote:You missed one little point...they tax you who works, to give to him who doesn't work.

Oh and BTW, I love how I keep reading in this thread about taxes being a contribution...I don't contribute a damn thing...my money is confiscated every year, not contributed.


No, they tax me who works to give to me if I ever don't work.

Do you believe that there are actually people out there who live an actual, enjoyable life without ever working a single day?

Yes, I've known some of them. I resent having to "contribute" so that they can continue to enjoy a lifestyle that in some cases outstrips my own.


No, you don't. They don't exist.

You call me a liar, without any evidence. So now prove that the people I mentioned don''t exist. As I've said...I know some who live a very nice lifestyle and never worked a day in their life...sucking off the government teat.

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Postby Blitzkrenia » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:00 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Albignano wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Sdaeriji wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:If she had really been in such a predicament, the solution would be to provide more educational facilities and let charity do its work instead of taking my marks and giving it to her.


Okay, the father is the one who proposed the grades redistribution, because he thought he was cleverly making a point. Three pages of this thread have been dedicated to trying to impress upon people like you that that is not how socialism works.

i bought a car. The government is taxing me to buy a car for everyone but since I already have one I'm not eligible. .Like that?

No.

I have another one: that guy earns no money as he doesn't work. I earn money because I work on a farm. now, the government wants to tax me lots and tax him nothing. Even if I get equal treatment as him, it's still unfair as I lost more.

No. A unemployed worker wants to work, but he can't, and not because he is lazy.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!


Ok, I'm currently unemployed and I'd like you to come here and find a VERY quick solution. :evil:

Prove to them that you deserve the job more than the other millions of people:)

Prove to me why the best of those millions of unemployed don't have a job.

Because the employer is blind and the best will probably get a job somewhere better than that shit of a workplace.

And still there are no takers for such a valuable resource from anywhere. Why?

Because bosses are stupid and you'd probably be better off starting a business with a loan and employing your fellow workers. Really- if you keep thinking that the big bosses are really taking advantage of workers, businesses can never succeed.

Do you really think starting a business, or even keeping one alive is that easy? Also, I'm a libertarian-and a cold-hearted bastard, but I can't bare to see someone so misguided about economics and socialism.
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Postby South Norwega » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:01 am

Kalasparata wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Kalasparata wrote:Is NSG Nation States Guest?

NationStates General.

Is that THIS forum?

No, this is NationStates Admiral...
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:02 am

Albignano wrote:
South Norwega wrote:
Kalasparata wrote: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: LMAO Yea and the sky is purple! What reality are you living in. A person on the dole is too lazy to work. That wasn't talking about pentions or anything of the sort!

Oh Bullcrap.

What do you know, of economics and politics?

The majority of people, not everyone, but the majority of people on welfare would like to get off welfare, but the can't get jobs. That's the way it works. The majority of unemployed workers are generally between jobs, rather than lounging around on the dole.


Looking at what he writes in his posts... he knows REALLY zero!


Welll... le us be fair. Many people do not know the sky really IS violet, because they flunked basic physics and biology ;)
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:02 am

Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:
Blitzkrenia wrote:
Eternal Yerushalayim wrote:Very true. If the socialists want to chang anything, they should not be asking for wealth redistribution, but removal of jobs that let us do little but earn much.

Which is such an abstract and subjective standard that it is impossible to applicate in reality.

But at least it's a better goal if they want to have any support at all.


Oh, rubbish.

Income redistribution works. It's called "tax". It works. It has widespread support.

What is this "better goal" to get more support ? It is government decreeing what is worthy employment and what is not. It is government fixing of wages to some arbitrary standard, reflecting the social worth of the work.

You're saying that communism is more practical (gets more support) than any degree of socialism.

Which is rubbish.
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