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Efficacy of Voucher Programs for Public School Students

Postby Nouveau Yathrib » Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:27 pm

NSers (especially those of you living in the Anglosphere), what do you think about voucher programs for low-resource students in the public school system? Do you think transferring poorly performing students from mediocre public schools to better funded private schools will improve their academic performance? There was a thread on private schools receiving government funding a while back so I thought I'd start a new thread on a related topic.


NPR article on transferring low-resource public school students to private schools through voucher programs


It is the education debate of the Trump era. With the president and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos using policy and the bully pulpit to champion private school vouchers, supporters and critics have tangled over the question:

Do low-income, public school students perform better when they're given a voucher to attend a private school?

For years, the answer from researchers has been a muddle, while a handful of recent studies have clearly shown voucher students backsliding academically. Today, much-anticipated reviews of not one but two of the nation's largest voucher programs add some depth and a few twists to the voucher narrative.

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The researchers conducted dozens of interviews with principals, teachers, parents and students in 13 voucher-accepting private schools and found a common theme: Children who came from public schools often struggled to meet new homework expectations and found the first year in a private school particularly challenging. The fact that voucher students' academic performance gradually improved over multiple years suggests that they had to adjust to those demands and that their private schools had to adjust as well.

Waddington believes many private schools struggled to adapt quickly to Indiana's voucher program and that teachers and administrators had to scramble to meet the needs of students who were "largely low-achieving and more demographically diverse than the students already enrolled in these private schools ... It's important to be able to have the time and systematically think about how these students can be best served," Waddington says.

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The lower performance in math vs. reading, however, is consistent with many other voucher studies, including Indiana, Washington, D.C., Milwaukee, Florida, and Ohio. One reason for that consistency, Mills says, may be math's dependence on sequencing, which can make changing schools particularly disruptive.

One final headline from the Louisiana report: Students who switched to private schools were less likely to be later identified as having special needs, and, if they arrived with the disability label, they were more likely to shed it in a voucher school. The authors, Mills and Wolf, say they're unsure whether having fewer kids designated as special-needs is a good thing or a bad thing. It could be bad if these children don't get the services they need. It could be good if the label is a stigma and students are doing so well that they no longer need it.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:44 pm

I'm mixed on voucher students, but if there's any guiding star, it's this:

If private schools are to accept government vouchers, it should be with the same handicap as public schools. Specifically, they should not be able to deny students based on academic performance or things like race, gender, behavioral history, etc.

If this is going to be a test, it needs to be a truly comparative test. They need to accept all, just like public schools, and we'll see how they perform.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:47 pm

I think transferring students to higher performing schools can benefit some children, but certainly not all children.

If this is not coupled with other reforms in our education system then there's no way a voucher program Is going to improve an entire district's academic performance. You might as well burn money.
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Soldati Senza Confini wrote:If this is not coupled with other reforms in our education system then there's no way a voucher program Is going to improve an entire district's academic performance. You might as well burn money.


What kinds of reforms would you propose? And do you think the goal of these programs should be to improve an entire district's academic performance, or only to help those who have academic potential better achieve it?
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:08 pm

The end game of such programs is to give politicians an excuse to shut down any and all forms of public education. They don't want the average person to be educated. A populace capable of recognising their bullshit for what it is doesn't serve their owners' interests.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:19 pm

Galloism wrote:I'm mixed on voucher students, but if there's any guiding star, it's this:

If private schools are to accept government vouchers, it should be with the same handicap as public schools. Specifically, they should not be able to deny students based on academic performance or things like race, gender, behavioral history, etc.

If this is going to be a test, it needs to be a truly comparative test. They need to accept all, just like public schools, and we'll see how they perform.

I would add one thing, they cannot teach things like creationism in the science class. Truthfully I would prefer the private school be secular.
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Nouveau Yathrib wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:If this is not coupled with other reforms in our education system then there's no way a voucher program Is going to improve an entire district's academic performance. You might as well burn money.


What kinds of reforms would you propose? And do you think the goal of these programs should be to improve an entire district's academic performance, or only to help those who have academic potential better achieve it?


I think the goal of these programs should be to improve an entire district's academic performance, yes.

I am not of the thought that children cannot be taught. It might take a while, but anyone can learn something if exposed to it the right way.

I think a better personal education plan's metric would be good, and to decrease our reliance on things like standardized testing and funding for schools based on performance (which is a huge issue that perpetuates poor education -- as good schools get more money, and bad schools keep getting less and less money, making them less and less able to correct the inefficiencies of their area in regards of education.

Also, the Department of Education should have a more direct role between the federal government and the states to promote a standard all states can agree with and follow. Because right now, for instance, a school in New York is not the same, and is not taught the same content as a school in Texas, so we have 50+ different versions of what a state's education is like.
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Postby Valgora » Tue Jun 27, 2017 6:01 pm

I think that increasing funding for public educatio -, and taking some ideas from Finland - would do more benefit than a voucher program.
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Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I am not of the thought that children cannot be taught. It might take a while, but anyone can learn something if exposed to it the right way.

I think a better personal education plan's metric would be good, and to decrease our reliance on things like standardized testing and funding for schools based on performance (which is a huge issue that perpetuates poor education -- as good schools get more money, and bad schools keep getting less and less money, making them less and less able to correct the inefficiencies of their area in regards of education.


Agreed, the No Child Left Behind program was stupid and didn't help better prepare students for the real world.


Valgora wrote:I think that increasing funding for public educatio -, and taking some ideas from Finland - would do more benefit than a voucher program.


Brookings Institute- Teacher Pay Around the World
Even against modest-paying Finland, American teachers are underpaid. If we wanted to raise the relative salaries of American teachers to the level seen in Finland, we’d require a 10 percent raise for primary school teachers, an 18 percent raise in lower secondary, and a 28 percent raise for upper secondary school teachers.



https://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/

These data show that US students who choose to major in education, essentially the bulk of people who become teachers, have for at least the last seven decades been selected from students at the lower end of the academic aptitude pool. A 2010 McKinsey report (pdf) by Byron Auguste, Paul Kihn, and Matt Miller noted that top performing school systems, such as those in Singapore, Finland, and South Korea, “recruit 100% of their teacher corps from the top third of the academic cohort.” The US certainly recruits some of its teachers from the top of the aptitude distribution, including at top education schools such as Harvard University and Vanderbilt University. Additionally, Teach for America often selects students from highly selective institutions, which have already filtered students based on academic aptitude.
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Voucher programs are just corporate welfare for the private education sector. As usual.
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The Princes of the Universe wrote:The end game of such programs is to give politicians an excuse to shut down any and all forms of public education. They don't want the average person to be educated. A populace capable of recognising their bullshit for what it is doesn't serve their owners' interests.


This. So very much this. The Republican party is pretty much dependent on low-information voters to survive.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:05 am

I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Besides they work.
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Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Not having a monopoly =/=> paying what amounts subsidies to private enterprises.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:52 am

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Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Not having a monopoly =/=> paying what amounts subsidies to private enterprises.


State has an obligation to educate the children, school choice gives parents the ability to pick the school. The charter schools here cost substantially less and deliver better results.
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Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Besides they work.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/07/n ... sults.html

You are using this article as supporting charter schools...the one that seems very critical, and also mentions that all this points out is that test scores are their only measure and that the oldest are in high school and that conclusions could not yet really be drawn about this. You are talking about a school where students wet themselves during tests? Where public humiliation is common? This is the school you are marking as a success?
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Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Besides they work.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/07/n ... sults.html


Pretty sure no-one has been pushing for the abolition of private schools.
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Neutraligon wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Besides they work.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/07/n ... sults.html

You are using this article as supporting charter schools...the one that seems very critical, and also mentions that all this points out is that test scores are their only measure and that the oldest are in high school and that conclusions could not yet really be drawn about this. You are talking about a school where students wet themselves during tests? Where public humiliation is common? This is the school you are marking as a success?


Thr times hates charters. The point is their test scores are better, and the kids outcomes are better than in the local public schools.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
Risottia wrote:Not having a monopoly =/=> paying what amounts subsidies to private enterprises.


State has an obligation to educate the children, school choice gives parents the ability to pick the school.


Parents aren't required to pick the school. People don't gain competences about education just by fucking without a condom.
The State has an obligation to ENSURE that every kid gets an appropriate education. Which means operating and funding state schools to the best possible standards, hence not wasting part of the education budget in corporate welfare.
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Vassenor wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Besides they work.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/07/n ... sults.html


Pretty sure no-one has been pushing for the abolition of private schools.


The teachers unions, most certainly have been trying to abolish th charter schools, as well as the current mayor of nyc.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:You are using this article as supporting charter schools...the one that seems very critical, and also mentions that all this points out is that test scores are their only measure and that the oldest are in high school and that conclusions could not yet really be drawn about this. You are talking about a school where students wet themselves during tests? Where public humiliation is common? This is the school you are marking as a success?


Thr times hates charters. The point is their test scores are better, and the kids outcomes are better than in the local public schools.

And yet you chose the article to support your claim. The times very explicitly says that long term conclusions cannot be determined because the oldest students to do this program are still in high school, so you are making that claim without any support. As to test scores, sure those are higher, but that is the only thing that is higher. That does not mean that the students are actually doing better as test scores do not necessarily measure how well a student is actually being educated. Finally, you ignored the public humiliation, the wetting themselves in schools, etc.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:08 am

Risottia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
State has an obligation to educate the children, school choice gives parents the ability to pick the school.


Parents aren't required to pick the school. People don't gain competences about education just by fucking without a condom.
The State has an obligation to ENSURE that every kid gets an appropriate education. Which means operating and funding state schools to the best possible standards, hence not wasting part of the education budget in corporate welfare.


The standards in the city ar3 not being met. Most city high school graduates are not ready for college. Nyc already spends 20,000 dollars per year per child. Money is not the issue.

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Ethel mermania wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Parents aren't required to pick the school. People don't gain competences about education just by fucking without a condom.
The State has an obligation to ENSURE that every kid gets an appropriate education. Which means operating and funding state schools to the best possible standards, hence not wasting part of the education budget in corporate welfare.


The standards in the city ar3 not being met. Most city high school graduates are not ready for college. Nyc already spends 20,000 dollars per year per child. Money is not the issue.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/04/ ... eport-card


That did not in any way respond to what I wrote, and.... since the oldest students are still in high school there are no stats on whether these students are ready for college. The article you linked said nothing about charter schools. You are ignoring the negative charter schools have on the public schools. For instance, how many of these charter schools keep students with learning disabilities?
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Ethel mermania wrote:I support. I see no reason for the state to have a monopoly on education.

Besides they work.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/07/n ... sults.html


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Neutraligon wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
The standards in the city ar3 not being met. Most city high school graduates are not ready for college. Nyc already spends 20,000 dollars per year per child. Money is not the issue.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016/04/ ... eport-card


That did not in any way respond to what I wrote, and.... since the oldest students are still in high school there are no stats on whether these students are ready for college. The article you linked said nothing about charter schools. You are ignoring the negative charter schools have on the public schools. For instance, how many of these charter schools keep students with learning disabilities?


Well I was responding to Risottia and not you, so I don't know why you would expect it to respond to you.
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Ethel mermania wrote:
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That did not in any way respond to what I wrote, and.... since the oldest students are still in high school there are no stats on whether these students are ready for college. The article you linked said nothing about charter schools. You are ignoring the negative charter schools have on the public schools. For instance, how many of these charter schools keep students with learning disabilities?


Well I was responding to Risottia and not you, so I don't know why you would expect it to respond to you.

Missed that sorry.
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