Philjia wrote:Why does everyone have to be so fucking dichotomous about gender politics? Men have problems. Women have problems. Men cause problems. Women cause problems. Can we stop arguing about who has it worse and whose fault it is, and get on with solving them?
Sounds good to me. For our first challenge, we've got to deal with the way the media presents domestic violence and rape, ignoring female perpetrators and male victims in its journalistic advocacy and campaigning, and oh look, now you see why it's dichotomous.
When "Get on with solving it" involves telling feminists to stop being so gynocentric, it has to be dichotomous. The tired line that its fine to focus on womens issues is a misandrist lie, since female victims of female perpetrators are also ignored, their focus is on male perpetration, not female victims, and even if it were the case, there's plenty of examples where "representation" is deemed sufficient to force changes in organizations and how they present themselves, but its never applied to feminist campaigns, feminist journalists, or feminist organizations.
THAT'S why there is a dichotomy. If it weren't for that, (And it's not just on those two issues, its absolutely systemic within the movement) there wouldn't be the backlash.
"Get on with solving them" likewise means acknowledging mens issues and sidelining feminists and feminist doctrine, since stuff like the pay gap is caused by lack of work-life balance in males, lack of paternity leave etc, which requires confronting misandry in both men and women.
How do you propose mens issues get resolved and these issues get dealt with, if not by the means i'm proposing? Bare in mind, feminists routinely assert they're fixing mens issues too by what they are doing (Because their theory is fucked and just a bunch of sexist assertions like "Male rape victims don't come forward because they are misogynists, so we can fix that issue for men by teaching boys not to hate women. See? We work on mens issues too.").
How do you propose getting them to accept they aren't actually working on mens issues and their theory is wrong?
because that's the crux of the matter here. You're baffled as to why there's a dichotomy. THATS why. Feminist assertions about how sexism works being flat out wrong, and the refusal to countenance alternative approaches. THEY think they ARE working on mens issues as well as womens. So how do you propose we deal with them, if not by purging them from institutions of power?
The UK already has international mens day discussed in parliament, one of the first countries to do so, we can go a step further and be ahead of the curve by getting a minister for men who will focus on mens issues. We're a country with a dwindling feminist minority, and even among those, some feminists aren't a problem for society and don't believe in the actual feminist theory stuff. The support is there in the masses, it's just a matter of getting the institutions to keep up with the times, and a major way to do that is a minister for men.
Ifreann wrote:Menister. Or manister?
The malister for men, working for the man.