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Postby Ostroeuropa » Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:15 pm

Fuck it, bored and charitable to the extent ima post an idea i've murmued with comrades about. Prepping for next years international mens day.

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We, the undersigned, hereby demand the following changes, and an indeterminate number of us pledge to refrain from consumption of food until such a time as we require hospitalization and are relieved of this obligation, and for those willing, beyond this for as long as necessary, until the relevant minister (The justice minister or the Women and equalities minister, see which of you gets the credit) *** instructs the relevant committee to pen a new sexual offences act to be put to parliament with (at least) the following changes; ***


A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person (B) with his penis,

(b) B does not consent to the penetration, and

(c) A does not reasonably believe that B consents.

Shall be ammended to;

A person (A) commits an offence if -

(a) They intentionally envelop or penetrate the genitals, anus, or mouth of another person, and

(b) (B) does not consent to this penetration, and

(c) (A) does not reasonably believe that (B) consents.


Furthermore, we demand these acts be categorized as the same offence by all government funded organizations for the purposes of statistics collection, policing, imprisonment, justice, education, victims services, and OfCom and other media watchdog guidelines, and this should also be included in the ammended act.

The undersigned shall, if they wish, gather around places of governance such as the welsh assembly, scottish assembly, and british parliament for the duration of this petitions demands going unheeded, though others may perform the hunger strike from home and are encouraged to update others to their status by social media.
Should such gatherings be disrupted, all are encouraged to continue from home.


(Optional tongue-in-cheek lolthauritarion bullshit)

"Furthermore, we demand that the last mainstream newspaper (listed here) to report on this petition be specifically named in the ammended sexual offences act as prohibited from reporting on any crimes or cases to which the act pertains, with violations of this prohibition being cause for a fine of 10 billion pounds per incident. Should all papers report within 72 hours of reaching X signatures, this provision should be ignored."

Yes i'm dead serious. (Except maybe the last bit.) I've got a couple of blokes already (You won't know who I ammmmm, haha), and we've got a year to prep. At (Or before if it's better) Nov 1st, we post and blitz social media and the papers for Movember, with the strike beginning on nov 19th (International mens day.). Signatories won't be required to join the strike, but the indeterminate number should spook them a bit, in conjunction with the clear validity of the demands.

I'm throwing it here first to see what you come up with in terms of writing the petition. Putting this out there long before is one means of generating buzz.
Even one person doing it should be enough to make the news if they generate a fuss about it, but an actual live UK.GOV petition will have them shitting fucking bricks.

I also have a plan B if it completely flops, but not posting that yet.

It also represents what I think is a fairly aggressive way to take the UKGOV petitions and make them actually fucking useful for once.

The protest will be good in that it's not some vague bullshit, and contains a specific demand (The relevant minister must begin the process of the bill being written.)

I'm *pretty* sure I can get some fuss generated purely from meatworld connections and my town supporting me. With help from here, the MRM reddit, and the ripple effects outward alongside me not actually taking center stage but fading into a crowd, we should see it gather momentum. It's entirely possible this leaves my hands and some other bastard runs with it, that's fine too. Nov 2018.

Enough buzz would see hundred thousand signatures or more I bet, since the media would eat up the hysteria and worst case scenario shit. If we even reach the strike stage before the government caves (A part of the idea is to begin the blitz 19 days before the strike to give the government time to cave in before the strike, thus getting more people to sign without feeling like they have to do it.), perhaps a few hundred, maybe thousands, who knows. If celebrities get in on it, we're done.

What I need you're help with, is writing a good petition. (And maybe a tagline.) Anyone in?
(If you want to real-world coordinate, that's fine with me. message.)

Even if it's just me and a few chaps, having the petition out there might help.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 5:59 am



They're joining the conservatives? :p
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:01 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:


They're joining the conservatives? :p


Still better than the DUP
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Postby States of Glory » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:13 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:Shall be ammended to;

Should be 'amended'.

Ostroeuropa wrote:OfCom and other media watchdog guidelines, and this should also be included in the ammended act.

'Ofcom' and 'amended' (again).

Ostroeuropa wrote:The undersigned shall, if they wish, gather around places of governance such as the welsh assembly, scottish assembly, and british parliament

The places of governance should all be capitalised.

Ostroeuropa wrote:"Furthermore, we demand that the last mainstream newspaper (listed here) to report on this petition be specifically named in the ammended sexual offences act as prohibited from reporting on any crimes or cases to which the act pertains, with violations of this prohibition being cause for a fine of 10 billion pounds per incident. Should all papers report within 72 hours of reaching X signatures, this provision should be ignored."

I get that this isn't entirely serious, but what qualifies as a 'mainstream newspaper' and how many signatures is 'X'? Also, 'amended'.


Serious question: Why are people so outspoken about the colour of bleeding passports? Who actually cares? A passport is a passport as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:47 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:wat


Whoops, swapped the red and green. :p

Christmas must have you overloaded on red and green. :P


States of Glory wrote:

Serious question: Why are people so outspoken about the colour of bleeding passports? Who actually cares? A passport is a passport as far as I'm concerned.

It's a symbol of the throwing off of the shackles of the EU.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:59 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Whoops, swapped the red and green. :p

Christmas must have you overloaded on red and green. :P


Quite possible. All those tiny little lights, red and green. Or was it green and red? :p


Ifreann wrote:
States of Glory wrote:Serious question: Why are people so outspoken about the colour of bleeding passports? Who actually cares? A passport is a passport as far as I'm concerned.

It's a symbol of the throwing off of the shackles of the EU.


Then surely the new passport should be red white and blue, in the pattern of the union flag!

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:01 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Christmas must have you overloaded on red and green. :P


Quite possible. All those tiny little lights, red and green. Or was it green and red? :p


Ifreann wrote:It's a symbol of the throwing off of the shackles of the EU.


Then surely the new passport should be red white and blue, in the pattern of the union flag!

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And it should play God Save The Queen when you open it.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:01 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Christmas must have you overloaded on red and green. :P


Quite possible. All those tiny little lights, red and green. Or was it green and red? :p


Ifreann wrote:It's a symbol of the throwing off of the shackles of the EU.


Then surely the new passport should be red white and blue, in the pattern of the union flag!

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Please step in the special line over there, Sir.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:05 am

And another cavity search is about to begin.


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Postby Val Halla » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:09 am

States of Glory wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Shall be ammended to;

Should be 'amended'.

Ostroeuropa wrote:OfCom and other media watchdog guidelines, and this should also be included in the ammended act.

'Ofcom' and 'amended' (again).

Ostroeuropa wrote:The undersigned shall, if they wish, gather around places of governance such as the welsh assembly, scottish assembly, and british parliament

The places of governance should all be capitalised.

Ostroeuropa wrote:"Furthermore, we demand that the last mainstream newspaper (listed here) to report on this petition be specifically named in the ammended sexual offences act as prohibited from reporting on any crimes or cases to which the act pertains, with violations of this prohibition being cause for a fine of 10 billion pounds per incident. Should all papers report within 72 hours of reaching X signatures, this provision should be ignored."

I get that this isn't entirely serious, but what qualifies as a 'mainstream newspaper' and how many signatures is 'X'? Also, 'amended'.


Serious question: Why are people so outspoken about the colour of bleeding passports? Who actually cares? A passport is a passport as far as I'm concerned.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:14 am

And ULTRA-NATIONALISM is always FIERCELY MASCULINE and 100% HETEROSEXUAL.


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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:16 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:And ULTRA-NATIONALISM is always FIERCELY MASCULINE and 100% HETEROSEXUAL.

What could be more heterosexual than shirtless, muscular men flexing at each other?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:20 am

Ifreann wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:And ULTRA-NATIONALISM is always FIERCELY MASCULINE and 100% HETEROSEXUAL.

What could be more heterosexual than shirtless, muscular men flexing at each other?



Somebody filming it.

For security purposes of course.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:22 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:What could be more heterosexual than shirtless, muscular men flexing at each other?

Somebody filming it.

For security purposes of course.

And to get the females of the species to procreate, so that their wombs may serve the reawakened Empire!


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Postby Vassenor » Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:12 am

States of Glory wrote:

Serious question: Why are people so outspoken about the colour of bleeding passports? Who actually cares? A passport is a passport as far as I'm concerned.

It's a symbol of the throwing off of the shackles of the EU.[/quote]

Ignoring the fact there was actually nothing stopping us keeping blue passports like Croatia did.

But you know, who cares that the blue passport will be less powerful than the red one. It's blue so that makes it all OK.
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Postby HMS Barham » Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:31 am

Red is the colour of Britain, so there is nothing wrong with a red passport.

But there is a problem with another country's name being above your country's name. The EU passport design, of any colour, is precisely that: an EU passport. The provincial logos are just decorative.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:20 pm

I don't have an opinion on what colour the passport is, and I can exclusively reveal that it neither keeps me awake at night nor had any influence on my vote at the referendum. In the past decade I've gone abroad precisely once, and I'm planning for the coming decade to reduce that total by 100%. For me it'd be like worrying about the colour of the last fleet of milk floats. The passport could only be less relevant if I stuck a post-it on the front with "Lib Dems" written on it.

Hurdergaryp wrote:And ULTRA-NATIONALISM is always FIERCELY MASCULINE and 100% HETEROSEXUAL.


Can confirm.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:43 pm

It's interesting to see that all shades of political opinion in this thread are united in the belief that the colour of the UK passport is broadly irrelevant. The text and symbols are a different issue, as I'd expect them to be; but none of us are fussed about colour.


And the odd thing about the whole belief that the EU forced a change of passport colour is that it's demonstrably false. The EU guidelines on passport colour are guidelines only, not regulations, and not all EU passports are burgundy.

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So there was never anything stopping us from choosing dark blue over burgundy if we really wanted to anyway.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:00 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:It's interesting to see that all shades of political opinion in this thread are united in the belief that the colour of the UK passport is broadly irrelevant. The text and symbols are a different issue, as I'd expect them to be; but none of us are fussed about colour.


And the odd thing about the whole belief that the EU forced a change of passport colour is that it's demonstrably false. The EU guidelines on passport colour are guidelines only, not regulations, and not all EU passports are burgundy.



So there was never anything stopping us from choosing dark blue over burgundy if we really wanted to anyway.

Are you telling me that Nigel Farage has been misleading people about the EU?

I think I need to sit down...
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:05 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:It's interesting to see that all shades of political opinion in this thread are united in the belief that the colour of the UK passport is broadly irrelevant. The text and symbols are a different issue, as I'd expect them to be; but none of us are fussed about colour.


And the odd thing about the whole belief that the EU forced a change of passport colour is that it's demonstrably false. The EU guidelines on passport colour are guidelines only, not regulations, and not all EU passports are burgundy.



So there was never anything stopping us from choosing dark blue over burgundy if we really wanted to anyway.

Are you telling me that Nigel Farage has been misleading people about the EU?

I think I need to sit down...


I believe you were already sitting down for a while.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:08 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Are you telling me that Nigel Farage has been misleading people about the EU?

I think I need to sit down...


I believe you were already sitting down for a while.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:08 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Are you telling me that Nigel Farage has been misleading people about the EU?

I think I need to sit down...

I believe you were already sitting down for a while.

Yeah, he starts to wear down that obsidian throne.


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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
I believe you were already sitting down for a while.

Get out of my head, Blaat!


I don't want to sober up.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:36 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Get out of my head, Blaat!

I don't want to sober up.

Yet you must.


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