UK Politics Thread VII: Wake me DUP inside [can't wake UUP]

[Souseiseki]

which is what i assume you were trying to get at.

Wrong assumption!

then you should be more clear with what you're saying

[Souseiseki]

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ssion=true

lol pulling plays because one of the people originally involved in it was accused of an unrelated crime and getting mad about a painting because bloomers. the only shocking part about this is that people to be under the idea that it is somehow new. the moralist puritans of today are nothing more than the successors of the moralist puritans of yesterday, and they have always wielded a great influence in this country.

[Questers]

Wrong assumption!

then you should be more clear with what you're saying

Leftism is fundamentally about changing the world to be better than it is. I can't think of a more concise way of putting it, and I am not in the mood to make an essay. It's impossible without authoritarian perspectives at least sometimes.

[Souseiseki]

then you should be more clear with what you're saying

Leftism is fundamentally about changing the world to be better than it is. I can't think of a more concise way of putting it, and I am not in the mood to make an essay. It's impossible without authoritarian perspectives at least sometimes.

then i can't do much but refer you back to what i already said, and in fact, would say that my original assumption was actually correct.

[Souseiseki]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-42366629

man acquitted of rape after police ordered to hand over evidence from the defendants mobile phone. this presents two possibilities, both of which are horrible. the first is that we know the police are snoopy bastards that love to poke around people's phones regardless of the offences they are charged with, so there's no fucking way they didn't see that evidence. so they deliberately chose not to provide it in order to help their case. the second is that they didn't find it but were told about it, but then refused to look into it or just couldn't be arsed with it. both of these indicate that they are incompetent, lazy, underfunded, actively malicious or some combination.

then, of course, there are the CPS. those who are no strangers to souseiseki posting will already be aware that i am no friend of the CPS. in that sense, i agree with what someone else posted on another site. the CPS are measured on the number of cases they bring forward and the number of successful prosecutions they make. there is also public pressure to convict lots of people for the crimes de jour or highly emotional crimes, which the CPS play into by boasting in for example the VAWG reports about how the number of cases they bring forward and the number of convictions they get is always rising. i feel like they're getting close to japanese prosecutors, boasting about their numbers without any context. i've seen enough cases of the CPS playing loose with evidence and fucking it up and enough cases of the CPS actively ignoring evidence and being bad faith pricks that i am unsure if they were just incompetent again or if they deliberately decided to not put the evidence forward out of some personal desire to convict the bad rapist dude or a desire to see their numbers go up. both of these seem to be equally plausible to me.

all that can really be said is that they fucked up, and that it's almost certain they will learn no lessons from this and nothing will change.

[HMS Barham]

then you should be more clear with what you're saying

Leftism is fundamentally about changing the world to be better than it is. I can't think of a more concise way of putting it, and I am not in the mood to make an essay. It's impossible without authoritarian perspectives at least sometimes.

I think that is only partly true. Leftism is about advancing a view of the world in which certain policies will make the world better. If those policies succeed, little repression is needed. But if they fail, leftists escalate the repression rather than choosing different policies to make the world better (or just leave it how they found it since they are making it worse).

[Eastfield Lodge]

Leftism is fundamentally about changing the world to be better than it is. I can't think of a more concise way of putting it, and I am not in the mood to make an essay. It's impossible without authoritarian perspectives at least sometimes.

I think that is only partly true. Leftism is about advancing a view of the world in which certain policies will make the world better. If those policies succeed, little repression is needed. But if they fail, leftists escalate the repression rather than choosing different policies to make the world better (or just leave it how they found it since they are making it worse).

>mfw HMS acknowledges leftism can have positive policies.

[HMS Barham]

I think that is only partly true. Leftism is about advancing a view of the world in which certain policies will make the world better. If those policies succeed, little repression is needed. But if they fail, leftists escalate the repression rather than choosing different policies to make the world better (or just leave it how they found it since they are making it worse).

>mfw HMS acknowledges leftism can have positive policies.

I didn't say that at all.

[Souseiseki]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bbfc ... ornography

so turns out the BBFC is going to be out national censor

woo!

[Greater vakolicci haven]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bbfc-proposed-to-enforce-age-verification-of-online-pornography

so turns out the BBFC is going to be out national censor

woo!

Do they know how fruitless trying to regulate the internet is?

[Eastfield Lodge]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bbfc-proposed-to-enforce-age-verification-of-online-pornography

so turns out the BBFC is going to be out national censor

woo!

*inb4 Wikipedia rated 18*

[Trumptonium]

if the tories take porn away, how low do you think they can go with the youth vote?

it's 17% atm

let's not even think about the effects on current underaged future voters

not that porn is worth single-issue voting about but.. it's uh

incredibly inconveniencing

also shows once again how much they hate the internet. we're literally the only country marked as 'enemy of the internet' in europe .. except for russia.

[Trumptonium]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bbfc-proposed-to-enforce-age-verification-of-online-pornography

so turns out the BBFC is going to be out national censor

woo!

*inb4 Wikipedia rated 18*

Tbh they do have plenty of 18+ images on there for educational purposes

wonder how that's gonna work

[HMS Barham]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bbfc-proposed-to-enforce-age-verification-of-online-pornography

so turns out the BBFC is going to be out national censor

woo!

"The government should direct and control everything."

"No I didn't mean that!"

*picture of child pushing stick into own bike wheel*

[Dooom35796821595]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42406138

STRONG AND STABLE!

[Dumb Ideologies]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144

BBC reports that the Lib Dems have been fined £18,000 for failing to "deliver a complete and accurate spending return" in relation to "80 payments worth more than £80,000" relating to the EU referendum. A smaller fine has also been given to the Remain campaign (now known as Open Britain).

Remember this the next time people whip up hysteria about Vote Leave being "dodgy".

[The Blaatschapen]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144

BBC reports that the Lib Dems have been fined £18,000 for failing to "deliver a complete and accurate spending return" in relation to "80 payments worth more than £80,000". A smaller fine has also been given to the Remain campaign (now known as Open Britain).

Remember this the next time people whip up hysteria about Vote Leave being "dodgy".

I'll use this to whip up hysteria about British politics being corrupt as a whole

[Dumb Ideologies]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144

BBC reports that the Lib Dems have been fined £18,000 for failing to "deliver a complete and accurate spending return" in relation to "80 payments worth more than £80,000". A smaller fine has also been given to the Remain campaign (now known as Open Britain).

Remember this the next time people whip up hysteria about Vote Leave being "dodgy".

I'll use this to whip up hysteria about British politics being corrupt as a whole

That awkward feel when our politics is terrible but when a FOREIGNER is attacking it you almost feel duty bound to defend it.

Almost!

[Imperializt Russia]

>mfw HMS acknowledges leftism can have positive policies.

I didn't say that at all.

You literally ceded exactly that.

[Ostroeuropa]

UK feminist pressure groups ran a study asking if girls in UK schools experience sexism or sexual harassment.

1/3rd of all girls aged from infancy to 18 said they had.

They then used this to bellow about how 1/3rd of girls have been sexually harassed, rather than note that 1/3rd saying they've experienced sexism is actually pretty fucking low and calls into question this notion of widespread misogyny, despite all the widespread attempts to cast light on womens issues and educate people on the subject in media, schooling, and culture.

Notably;

If an 18-year-old claims that once, when she was seven, she heard a boy shout across the playground that ‘boys are better than girls’, then that is recorded as an experience of sexist language.

And despite the widespread campaign of disinformation about sexism against men, denials it exists and public demonization of figures who say it does, 20% of boys say they have experienced sexism against them. (Again, worth noting that there is a concerted effort to appropriate sexism against males as being sexism against women, and to indoctrinate the populace into this view, as well as a comparative dirth in the amount of exposure given to mens issues. In terms of class consciousness, these results are fairly surprising, and constitute a fifth of boys being directly at odds with mainstream feminist ideology and willing to say so.)

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/ar ... jkne99l_IV

Personally, I would bet more than 1/3rd of girls have experienced sexism, but they have been indoctrinated into not knowing or ignoring that other girls are the primary source of it for them, as the current mindset our institutions seek to cultivate is that sexism is a male perpetrated phenomena against females.
A good example of feminism hurting women too.

[Val Halla]

UK feminism and sometimes politics thread 7

Also lol that expensive carrier is leaking like crazy

[Ostroeuropa]

UK feminism and sometimes politics thread 7

Also lol that expensive carrier is leaking like crazy

The carrier is leaking?

[The Blaatschapen]

UK feminism and sometimes politics thread 7

Also lol that expensive carrier is leaking like crazy

The carrier is leaking?

Yes, just look at that puddle of water under it.

That leak must be massive.

[Val Halla]

UK feminism and sometimes politics thread 7

Also lol that expensive carrier is leaking like crazy

The carrier is leaking?

HMS Queen Elizabeth, which cost £3.1 billion, has been taking on 200 litres of water an hour because of a faulty seal.

[The Blaatschapen]

The carrier is leaking?

HMS Queen Elizabeth, which cost £3.1 billion, has been taking on 200 litres of water an hour because of a faulty seal.

Could be worse. A faulty o-ring (also a type of seal) created the challenger disaster

Here I guess it is a matter of fixing the seal, which should be a very routine matter.