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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:51 pm

Barbratania wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I wasnt playing i was walking here! Because my taxi refused to drive in near my house due to the ice so i had get dropped off a few roads away.

Wear better boots

I was in my work get up unfortunately, i have a set pair of "fancy" shoes that i wear for that, flat as fuck.
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UK Politics Thread VII: Wake me DUP inside [can't wake UUP]

Postby Barbratania » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:57 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was in my work get up unfortunately, i have a set pair of "fancy" shoes that i wear for that, flat as fuck.

WEAR BETTER BOOTS

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:00 pm

Barbratania wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:I was in my work get up unfortunately, i have a set pair of "fancy" shoes that i wear for that, flat as fuck.

WEAR BETTER BOOTS

Cant, have to fucking wear the set shoes.

anyway unless my boots and other shoes hold the secrets to an amazing brexit deal im not talking about them any more.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:36 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Barbratania wrote:WEAR BETTER BOOTS

Cant, have to fucking wear the set shoes.

anyway unless my boots and other shoes hold the secrets to an amazing brexit deal im not talking about them any more.

YOUR FOOTWEAR IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME, HUSKAR

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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:55 pm

We've had over 10 cm of snow today, the trains are barely running, and the gritters haven't come down my street.

I haven't found a way of blaming Brexit yet; but give me another 24 hours and I'm sure I'll find a way of holding David Davis personally responsible, just you wait and see.

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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:00 pm

i have zero (0) cm of snow
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:53 pm

Dejanic wrote:Everyone enjoying the snow? :p

Someone made an amazing snowman, and university got closed so we get 3 day extension on assignments so yes. :p

The Archregimancy wrote:We've had over 10 cm of snow today, the trains are barely running, and the gritters haven't come down my street.

I haven't found a way of blaming Brexit yet; but give me another 24 hours and I'm sure I'll find a way of holding David Davis personally responsible, just you wait and see.

Brexit takes UK closer to American economy and their environmental standards under Trump, therefore it weakens the efforts towards climate change prevention. That means increased pace of global warming, and slowing down of the gulf stream hence causing UK to be colder and causing snow. Actually more snow would be one of few benefits of Brexit.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:00 pm

Dejanic wrote:
Questers wrote:Yes social mobility is a bad thing. People moving from the bottom class to the top class indicates that there is a top class to move to.

Social mobility means many things, not just a homeless guy literally becoming Donald Trump. Peoples lives improving is a positive thing even if it is under Capitalism and if you're opposing the improvement of peoples lives and living standards well you're pretty regressive.

This is obviously not what he means, partly because I know that this is not what he means, but also because it's patently fucking obvious.
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Questers wrote:I'm clearly not opposing improving anyones lifestyle. But meritocracy in this sense is not what I am looking for. For example the Social Mobility Commission is actually also the Child Poverty Commission which is an important thing to look at: we should work to reduce the amount of children in poverty because children being in poverty is bad, not because it makes it harder for Gavin from the estate to become Donald Trump if he is born in poverty.

Ignoring your anti-poor garbage here (Gavin from the estate NEEDS to stay in the estate) it's nice to see you admit you're wrong.

This literally isn't what he fucking said.

The thing he actually said: "we should work to reduce the amount of children in poverty because children being in poverty is bad"
The thing you said he said: [unintelligible garbage intensifies]

I thought I might have been wrong for leaving NS, come back and things posted moments after I left showed that nope, I was probably on the right fucking idea.



Really, I just popped back because I was intrigued to see the madness that'd result from the Brexit negotiation going forward.
I understood it as basically acquiescing to what the EU suggested on June 27th of last year, and David Davis lying about his job some more.
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Postby Souseiseki » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:27 pm

David Davis sparks row with Ireland over 'not legally enforceable' Brexit deal claim

oh god lol not even a week after the deal was reached and the UK is already setting up the framework for "ah actually you see it's not actually a deal!" card

curb your perfide

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:29 pm

Souseiseki wrote:David Davis sparks row with Ireland over 'not legally enforceable' Brexit deal claim

oh god lol not even a week after the deal was reached and the UK is already setting up the framework for "ah actually you see it's not actually a deal!" card

curb your perfide

Imperializt Russia wrote:I thought I might have been wrong for leaving NS


please don't leave (we need sane posters)


FTFY.

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Postby HMS Barham » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:39 pm

Liriena wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:A better argument: abolishing slavery was a bad idea.

Counterpoint: John Brown did nothing wrong.

Well he certainly didn't win at Harper's Ferry, and his strategy of inciting slave uprisings certainly does not look very sound in retrospect.
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Postby HMS Barham » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:42 pm

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Questers wrote:Criminality is obviously not hereditary in the sense that sometimes breaking the speed limit is inherited from your parents, but very violent, antisocial conduct is probably highly heritable.

i'm willing to bet if you took that same psychopath and raised them in a loving and supportive home that installed a respectable moral compass, they wouldn't be a criminal

One of the biggest problems with our society is that its ideology is based on "I'm willing to bet that X, Y, Z..."

Hey I'm willing to bet I can make a bridge out of toilet paper. You drive over it first though.
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Postby HMS Barham » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:42 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:David Davis sparks row with Ireland over 'not legally enforceable' Brexit deal claim

oh god lol not even a week after the deal was reached and the UK is already setting up the framework for "ah actually you see it's not actually a deal!" card

curb your perfide



please don't leave (we need sane posters)


FTFY.

Sanity is overrated. Most people are sane, and look where it has got them.
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Postby Taihei Tengoku » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:46 pm

HMS Barham wrote:
Crysuko wrote:i'm willing to bet if you took that same psychopath and raised them in a loving and supportive home that installed a respectable moral compass, they wouldn't be a criminal

One of the biggest problems with our society is that its ideology is based on "I'm willing to bet that X, Y, Z..."

Hey I'm willing to bet I can make a bridge out of toilet paper. You drive over it first though.

Betting is a good "tax on bullshit" as B. Caplan puts it. Certainly applying the EMH to opinions would allow people to see which ones were useful and which ones weren't.

and speaking of psychopaths
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:47 pm

Souseiseki wrote:David Davis sparks row with Ireland over 'not legally enforceable' Brexit deal claim

oh god lol not even a week after the deal was reached and the UK is already setting up the framework for "ah actually you see it's not actually a deal!" card

curb your perfide

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Postby HMS Barham » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:49 pm

Taihei Tengoku wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:One of the biggest problems with our society is that its ideology is based on "I'm willing to bet that X, Y, Z..."

Hey I'm willing to bet I can make a bridge out of toilet paper. You drive over it first though.

Betting is a good "tax on bullshit" as B. Caplan puts it. Certainly applying the EMH to opinions would allow people to see which ones were useful and which ones weren't.

and speaking of psychopaths

There is nothing wrong with betting if you are actually willing to be.

Let us legalise all forms of discrimination and Crysuko can invest all his money only in companies that swear to forego them.

The problem is the colloquial meaning that "I kinda feel this in my belly so let us take it as an axiom without testing it at all".
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:50 pm

HMS Barham wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
FTFY.

Sanity is overrated. Most people are sane, and look where it has got them.


This explains a lot.

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:52 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
HMS Barham wrote:Sanity is overrated. Most people are sane, and look where it has got them.


This explains a lot.

A little madness now and then. *nods*
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:55 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
This explains a lot.

A little madness now and then. *nods*


A little.

Some people always seem to forget that bit..... :(

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:01 am

One of the best things about travelling when it snows in the UK is watching horrified foreigners realise quite how badly we cope. You can see them thinking ‘Leave the EU? You can’t even make it out of Tottenham Hale.’


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Postby Barbratania » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:40 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
I haven't found a way of blaming Brexit yet; but give me another 24 hours and I'm sure I'll find a way of holding David Davis personally responsible, just you wait and see.

Great Nepal is right Brexit is causing more climate change thus giving Britain more snow for a short period

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:42 am

HMS Barham wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
FTFY.

Sanity is overrated. Most people are sane, and look where it has got them.


This is a very wise statement. The nugget of truth for the day has been found, finally I can stop sift-posting.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:46 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Everyone enjoying the snow? :p

Someone made an amazing snowman, and university got closed so we get 3 day extension on assignments so yes. :p

The Archregimancy wrote:We've had over 10 cm of snow today, the trains are barely running, and the gritters haven't come down my street.

I haven't found a way of blaming Brexit yet; but give me another 24 hours and I'm sure I'll find a way of holding David Davis personally responsible, just you wait and see.

Brexit takes UK closer to American economy and their environmental standards under Trump, therefore it weakens the efforts towards climate change prevention. That means increased pace of global warming, and slowing down of the gulf stream hence causing UK to be colder and causing snow. Actually more snow would be one of few benefits of Brexit.


Snow a benefit?

How?


Oh wait.... Snow is white.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:47 am

Vassenor wrote:
One of the best things about travelling when it snows in the UK is watching horrified foreigners realise quite how badly we cope. You can see them thinking ‘Leave the EU? You can’t even make it out of Tottenham Hale.’


Oh dear.


This is all massively exaggerated. Our main issue is that it snows properly only every few years so it's not economically worth the public having special "winter tyres" or the government giving money for local authorities to buy state-of-the-art high-price machinery to help mitigate it.

Even the countries who do have a lot of experience mess up sometimes, like the Swedes with their "feminist snowplowing". Our natural self-deprecation is healthy but it's important that Remainers don't let the disappointment of defeat escalate it within themselves to an unhealthy self-hating bitterness, a simmering hateful anti-nationalism straight out of Bizarro World.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:48 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Someone made an amazing snowman, and university got closed so we get 3 day extension on assignments so yes. :p


Brexit takes UK closer to American economy and their environmental standards under Trump, therefore it weakens the efforts towards climate change prevention. That means increased pace of global warming, and slowing down of the gulf stream hence causing UK to be colder and causing snow. Actually more snow would be one of few benefits of Brexit.


Snow a benefit?

How?


Oh wait.... Snow is white.

It’s right there in the name.
Red, white, and blue Brexit.

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