UK Politics Thread VII: Wake me DUP inside [can't wake UUP]

[Hurdergaryp]

You, sir, have crossed a line!

Did you just assume my line crossing propensity?

She most certainly did. I fear you have no choice but to counterattack with righteous fury.

[Fartsniffage]

Did you just assume my line crossing propensity?

She most certainly did. I fear you have no choice but to counterattack with righteous fury.

Fucking Europeans, always trying to create divisions between good English folks. It's for the best that we're kicking you to the kerb.

[Hurdergaryp]

She most certainly did. I fear you have no choice but to counterattack with righteous fury.

Fucking Europeans, always trying to create divisions between good English folks. It's for the best that we're kicking you to the kerb.

If you think that will bring peace and tranquillity to your fair country, you are sorely mistaken. The British isles are an integral part of Europe, and they always shall be exactly that. The discord shall remain, no matter how isolationist the British isles manage to become.

[Vassenor]

Fucking Europeans, always trying to create divisions between good English folks. It's for the best that we're kicking you to the kerb.

If you think that will bring peace and tranquillity to your fair country, you are sorely mistaken. The British isles are an integral part of Europe, and they always shall be exactly that. The discord shall remain, no matter how isolationist the British isles manage to become.

So once we lose the common enemy of the evil eurocrats we'll just go back to kicking the shit out of each other instead?

[Fartsniffage]

Fucking Europeans, always trying to create divisions between good English folks. It's for the best that we're kicking you to the kerb.

If you think that will bring peace and tranquillity to your fair country, you are sorely mistaken. The British isles are an integral part of Europe, and they always shall be exactly that. The discord shall remain, no matter how isolationist the British isles manage to become.

Yeah, but kicking the shit out of the Scots and Welsh are in our blood. It'll come easy to us.

[Hurdergaryp]

If you think that will bring peace and tranquillity to your fair country, you are sorely mistaken. The British isles are an integral part of Europe, and they always shall be exactly that. The discord shall remain, no matter how isolationist the British isles manage to become.

So once we lose the common enemy of the evil eurocrats we'll just go back to kicking the shit out of each other instead?

Sounds depressingly Yugoslavian to me. Would that make May the equivalent of Tito?

[Imperializt Russia]

Do you have any example of it being used on a non-white?

I said it wasn't based in race, not that it was equal opportunity DIEversity appropriate.

This isn't a thing that "white people" do. The original "meaning" of the joke was that a particularly blustery conservative might go "ruddy-faced" during a rant.
I imagine with the manufactured outrage over the joke, that it is now being taken up seriously in response. Kind of like "deplorables", but in reverse.

So while I'm definitely not going to try finding an example of a person of colour ("non-white" really makes me uncomfortable) being called "gammon" for you, I wouldn't be surprised if the term is now 'meaningless' and is used to describe any pro-Brexit person, which will involve people of colour.
I'd rather you reflected on the decidedly buttery complexion of the pro-Brexit portion of the government.

[Ifreann]

It's a meat eaten by those who don't know any better.

You, sir, have crossed a line!

Meanwhile in DI's fridge:
*gammon noises*
*cheeky pinot grigio*
*mostly gammon*

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If you think that will bring peace and tranquillity to your fair country, you are sorely mistaken. The British isles are an integral part of Europe, and they always shall be exactly that. The discord shall remain, no matter how isolationist the British isles manage to become.

So once we lose the common enemy of the evil eurocrats we'll just go back to kicking the shit out of each other instead?

Anglos at the throats of Saxons. Scottish clans waging wars in the streets. The Welsh...will also be present?

[Hurdergaryp]

So once we lose the common enemy of the evil eurocrats we'll just go back to kicking the shit out of each other instead?

Anglos at the throats of Saxons. Scottish clans waging wars in the streets. The Welsh...will also be present?

Followed by a benevolent humanitarian intervention, straight from the Continent. A heavily armed and armoured humanitarian intervention, for those chavs can be nasty.

[Fartsniffage]

Anglos at the throats of Saxons. Scottish clans waging wars in the streets. The Welsh...will also be present?

Followed by a benevolent humanitarian intervention, straight from the Continent. A heavily armed and armoured humanitarian intervention, for those chavs can be nasty.

You lot have been trying and failing for a thousand years.

I can't believe we've finally been invaded again under the Stable and Strong leadership of May.

[Vassenor]

Followed by a benevolent humanitarian intervention, straight from the Continent. A heavily armed and armoured humanitarian intervention, for those chavs can be nasty.

You lot have been trying and failing for a thousand years.

I can't believe we've finally been invaded again under the Stable and Strong leadership of May.

Does the Glorious Revolution not count?

[Fartsniffage]

You lot have been trying and failing for a thousand years.

I can't believe we've finally been invaded again under the Stable and Strong leadership of May.

Does the Glorious Revolution not count?

Nope. We asked William to do that because James II was a cunt.

[Hurdergaryp]

Followed by a benevolent humanitarian intervention, straight from the Continent. A heavily armed and armoured humanitarian intervention, for those chavs can be nasty.

You lot have been trying and failing for a thousand years.

I can't believe we've finally been invaded again under the Stable and Strong leadership of May.

Depends on which millennium you're talking about. Romans, Anglons, Saxons and Norsemen all came from the mainland, after all. Also there's the little matter of the Norman invasion not yet having been 1000 years ago. We're not 2066 yet.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Support for Brexit falls sharply in Northern Ireland

"Intense opposition to hard border, study finds, as backing for leave falls 13 points"

In 2016, the region voted 56% to remain and 44% to leave, but support for leaving the bloc has fallen 13 points to 31%, undermining the Democratic Unionist party’s continued staunch backing for Brexit.

“The proportion wanting to remain has risen since the 2016 referendum as more people have become aware of the possible costs and inconveniences of leaving the EU, as citizens and as employees or employers,” said Brendan O’Leary, a professor of political science at Queen’s University Belfast.

The survey also showed significant levels of support for illegal or extreme protests against any north-south border checks, particularly among Catholics, who dominate the border communities.

The survey commissioned by researchers at Queen’s and funded by the UK in a Changing Europe thinktank, found that two years after the referendum support for remain had risen to 69% and leave had dropped to 31%.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Here is the actual survey carried out: https://www.qub.ac.uk/sites/brexitni/BrexitandtheBorder/Report/Filetoupload,820734,en.pdf

And the website of the think tank that carried it out

There is substantial and intense opposition in Northern Ireland to possible North-South border checks between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland and also to possible East-West border checks between Northern Ireland and Great Britain

One in five Catholics find the possible use of cameras at the North-South border ‘almost impossible to accept’ and almost one in 10 Catholics (9%) would support cameras being vandalized.

There are strong expectations that protests against either North-South or East-West border checks would quickly deteriorate into violence.
There is substantial support for a Brexit that would largely eliminate the need for any North-South or East-West border checks, namely for the UK as a whole to remain in the customs union and single market.

61% of the population are in favour of the UK as a whole remaining in the customs union and single market and support for this option is 61% among Catholics and 62% among Protestants.

Catholics are much more likely to support a united Ireland if there is a ‘hard’ exit in which the UK leaves both the customs union and single market.

28% of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland if the UK changed its mind and remained in the EU while 53% of Catholics would vote for a united Ireland if there was a ‘hard’ exit in which the UK left the customs union and single market.

The proportion of people in Northern Ireland wanting to Remain has risen since the 2016 referendum as more people have become aware of the possible costs of leaving the EU.

69% would vote Remain if there was another referendum compared to the 56% who voted Remain at the time of the referendum

John Garry, Principal Investigator on The UK in a Changing Europe project and Professor of Political Behaviour at Queen’s University Belfast, said: “We find Catholics and Protestants most prefer the option that would avoid the need for any new barriers on borders. Either in the Irish Sea or across Ireland. They want the UK as a whole to stay in the customs union and single market.”

Brendan O’Leary, Lauder Professor of Political Science at the University of Pennsylvania, who also holds a visiting position at Queen’s, noted: “Our results show that if there was another referendum, people in Northern Ireland would vote more strongly to remain in the EU.

The proportion wanting to Remain has risen since the 2016 referendum as more people have become aware of the possible costs and inconveniences of leaving the EU, as citizens and as employees or employers.”

Segment from the survey link on UI:

We asked respondents their views on the idea of havinga referendum in Northern Ireland, once the UK had left the EU, on whether Northern Ireland should remain in the UK or re-unify with the rest of Ireland. As reported in Figure 6, there is more supportfor(47%) than opposition to (37%) the idea of holding a referendum. However, only 29% of Protestants favoured holding a referendum compared to 68% of Catholics.

[Vassenor]

But I thought the will of the people was supposed to be fixed and unchanging.

[Trumptonium1]

Sell Northern Ireland to the highest bidder.

[Galloism]

Sell Northern Ireland to the highest bidder.

I’ll bid $10. The place needs major work.

[The Huskar Social Union]

30 quid.

Ill be a good dictator.

[Galloism]

30 quid.

Ill be a good dictator.

Curse you for making me look up the exchange rate.

$50!

[The East Marches II]

Sell Northern Ireland to the highest bidder.

$250 to save the honest Protestants

[The Huskar Social Union]

30 quid.

Ill be a good dictator.

Curse you for making me look up the exchange rate.

$50!

50 quid.

Up it again boyo

[Galloism]

Sell Northern Ireland to the highest bidder.

$250 to save the honest Protestants

Curse you for making me look up the exchange rate.

$50!

50 quid.

Up it again boyo

With Marches bid, I’m out. Too much for a fixer upper.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

€300

[The East Marches II]

€300

$500 providing it comes with the PSNI and Ambulance service intact