*Eating bag of Tayto by the road, strong gust of wind knocks it into the mindfield*
"Fuck sake"
Walks in after it because that would be the NI thing to do
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by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:31 am
by Bienenhalde » Fri May 18, 2018 7:33 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Oh apparently its going to be a smart techy border with things and the cloud that does cloud things.
The only sensical approach is to adjust our citizenship laws. We're not allowed to render people stateless, but those born in NI get both British and Irish citizenship anyway.
We adjust the rules so there's border checks between NI and the rest of the UK and tell the DUP to get the fuck over it.
We adjust citizenship rules so people born in NI get Irish citizenship, or British if they are born to British parents inside NI, and then that's that and we don't have to deal with EU migrants abusing the border to get british citizenship and so on.
Fuck a border, it's too much hassle.
by The New California Republic » Fri May 18, 2018 7:41 am
by Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:42 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Or you just say screw it NI you’re now Irish
Well who knows that might actually end up happening sooner than a lot of people think. Since brexit ive known of quite a few unionists who have gotten irish passports and have said they would rather stick in the EU and if that meant joining the republic they would be for it. And this goes for plenty of lukewarm nationalists who were unsure if it would be better to unify with ireland or not at the moment.
Before brexit the idea of unification was as far as i was concerned incredibly idealistic and would not happen for decades at the minimum. Now.. i could honestly see it being a reality relatively soon. Its going to cause shit no doubt, plenty of protests, riots and maybe some of the loyalist paramilitaries will stop murdering one another over drugs to detonate the odd bomb or carry a mass shooting here or there, though i would never expect anything on the scale of the troubles, and even during the troubles those fellas could never match republican paramilitaries in scale of operation or effectiveness anyway.
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:43 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well who knows that might actually end up happening sooner than a lot of people think. Since brexit ive known of quite a few unionists who have gotten irish passports and have said they would rather stick in the EU and if that meant joining the republic they would be for it. And this goes for plenty of lukewarm nationalists who were unsure if it would be better to unify with ireland or not at the moment.
Before brexit the idea of unification was as far as i was concerned incredibly idealistic and would not happen for decades at the minimum. Now.. i could honestly see it being a reality relatively soon. Its going to cause shit no doubt, plenty of protests, riots and maybe some of the loyalist paramilitaries will stop murdering one another over drugs to detonate the odd bomb or carry a mass shooting here or there, though i would never expect anything on the scale of the troubles, and even during the troubles those fellas could never match republican paramilitaries in scale of operation or effectiveness anyway.
I wonder that when NI reunifies will Scotland try and become independent again. I’d hate to be the PM during that mess.
by Ostroeuropa » Fri May 18, 2018 7:43 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Well who knows that might actually end up happening sooner than a lot of people think. Since brexit ive known of quite a few unionists who have gotten irish passports and have said they would rather stick in the EU and if that meant joining the republic they would be for it. And this goes for plenty of lukewarm nationalists who were unsure if it would be better to unify with ireland or not at the moment.
Before brexit the idea of unification was as far as i was concerned incredibly idealistic and would not happen for decades at the minimum. Now.. i could honestly see it being a reality relatively soon. Its going to cause shit no doubt, plenty of protests, riots and maybe some of the loyalist paramilitaries will stop murdering one another over drugs to detonate the odd bomb or carry a mass shooting here or there, though i would never expect anything on the scale of the troubles, and even during the troubles those fellas could never match republican paramilitaries in scale of operation or effectiveness anyway.
I wonder that when NI reunifies will Scotland try and become independent again. I’d hate to be the PM during that mess.
by Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:44 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:46 am
The New California Republic wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Or that, yeah, but that would be handing Ireland a lemon in the form of several thousand angry orangists.
An attempt at unification would cause a shitstorm that would take decades to get over, as it'd likely bring the worst days of The Troubles back again.
by The New California Republic » Fri May 18, 2018 7:46 am
Thermodolia wrote:I wonder that when NI reunifies will Scotland try and become independent again. I’d hate to be the PM during that mess.
by Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:47 am
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:48 am
by Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:50 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:The New California Republic wrote:An attempt at unification would cause a shitstorm that would take decades to get over, as it'd likely bring the worst days of The Troubles back again.
Possibly not, it would be bad, but loyalist paramilitaries were never as well organised or as efficient as the IRA was during the troubles, they often had help from the British military (which they wont this time unless the UK is suicidal and decides to help them for what ever retarded reason) and often murdered their own people a lot because they mistook them for Catholics. Loyalist groups were no more than armed gangs a lot of the time than a full fledged armed movement, and even though the IRA split during the troubles, they orchestrated and carried out stuff on a far far larger scale than the likes of the UVF and UDA did.
It would still cause a ton of shit, but it would not be as bad as the worst of the troubles would be. And younger people today in NI would really not want to be involved with this kind of shit, and so support for these fuckers would be a lot lower than it would have been in the troubles.
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:52 am
Ah america and ireland, always reminds me of this:Thermodolia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Possibly not, it would be bad, but loyalist paramilitaries were never as well organised or as efficient as the IRA was during the troubles, they often had help from the British military (which they wont this time unless the UK is suicidal and decides to help them for what ever retarded reason) and often murdered their own people a lot because they mistook them for Catholics. Loyalist groups were no more than armed gangs a lot of the time than a full fledged armed movement, and even though the IRA split during the troubles, they orchestrated and carried out stuff on a far far larger scale than the likes of the UVF and UDA did.
It would still cause a ton of shit, but it would not be as bad as the worst of the troubles would be. And younger people today in NI would really not want to be involved with this kind of shit, and so support for these fuckers would be a lot lower than it would have been in the troubles.
Ya if the UK got involved militarily it would be really bad for them. As the US would be throwing their weight behind the ROI. There’s a shit ton of Irish in he US and they wouldn’t think twice about raise hell if the UK pulled a stunt like that
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:52 am
by Ifreann » Fri May 18, 2018 7:54 am
by Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:55 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Would also piss off Europe massively if the UK started helping paramilitaries again in an EU member state.
by The New California Republic » Fri May 18, 2018 8:02 am
Thermodolia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Would also piss off Europe massively if the UK started helping paramilitaries again in an EU member state.
Ya France would probably love to get back at the UK for anything. Tbh that would probably freak out the Brits more than the Yanks. The thought of the French tricolor above London
by Anywhere Else But Here » Fri May 18, 2018 8:13 am
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Would also piss off Europe massively if the UK started helping paramilitaries again in an EU member state.
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 8:14 am
by Imperializt Russia » Fri May 18, 2018 8:15 am
The New California Republic wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Ya France would probably love to get back at the UK for anything. Tbh that would probably freak out the Brits more than the Yanks. The thought of the French tricolor above London
Like hell that would happen. Would rather reduce London to ashes than see the flags of a foreign power being flown over all the government buildings. I'm sure if Operation Sealion had actually materialised then London would have been left in ruins. It wouldn't be like Paris, where the Germans just wandered in and took it.
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by Imperializt Russia » Fri May 18, 2018 8:15 am
Also,Lamadia wrote:dangerous socialist attitude
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm English, you tit.
by The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 8:21 am
by The New California Republic » Fri May 18, 2018 8:22 am
Imperializt Russia wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Like hell that would happen. Would rather reduce London to ashes than see the flags of a foreign power being flown over all the government buildings. I'm sure if Operation Sealion had actually materialised then London would have been left in ruins. It wouldn't be like Paris, where the Germans just wandered in and took it.
Now, that's not quite what happened.
Indeed, they could have razed the city, but chose not to lose a thousand years of history, having seen what a stoic defence had done for the Czechs, the Poles and the Dutch by that point.
by Anywhere Else But Here » Fri May 18, 2018 8:35 am
by Ifreann » Fri May 18, 2018 8:39 am
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