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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 17, 2018 9:31 am

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Hurdergaryp wrote:Britain's New Porn Law Is Insanely Stupid, according to Cracked.

Yes, we discussed this issue on the thread several pages ago. We also concluded that the new law is moronic.

I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Thu May 17, 2018 9:48 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Yes, we discussed this issue on the thread several pages ago. We also concluded that the new law is moronic.

I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish

That goes without saying. Benjamin Franklin, prominent Founding Father, was a total and utterly unapologetical pervert. Be like Benjamin Franklin.


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Postby Bienenhalde » Thu May 17, 2018 10:24 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Yes, we discussed this issue on the thread several pages ago. We also concluded that the new law is moronic.

I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish


That is because we have strayed from our original Puritan roots and fallen into degeneracy.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu May 17, 2018 10:34 am

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Thermodolia wrote:I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish


That is because we have strayed from our original Puritan roots and fallen into degeneracy.

Which isn’t a bad thing at all
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu May 17, 2018 10:51 am

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The New California Republic wrote:Yes, we discussed this issue on the thread several pages ago. We also concluded that the new law is moronic.

I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish

Don't worry, proxy servers are there for a reason.
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Postby Minoa » Fri May 18, 2018 2:55 am

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44165718

Some great news that Sergei Skripal has finally been able to leave hospital despite the Novichok poisoning.

I feel that the UK and Russia should take a step back from the diplomatic rift and hear Skripal’s side of the story.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri May 18, 2018 3:19 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:
That is because we have strayed from our original Puritan roots and fallen into degeneracy.

Which isn’t a bad thing at all


I'm of the opinion that it's best to be a centrist on the puritan - degenerate axis.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 3:32 am

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Thermodolia wrote:I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish


That is because we have strayed from our original Puritan roots and fallen into degeneracy.

Good, Puritanism is a load of wank anyway.
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri May 18, 2018 3:40 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:That is because we have strayed from our original Puritan roots and fallen into degeneracy.

Good, Puritanism is a load of wank anyway.

And it's better for the economy if Puritanism decays, for the entertainment industry makes billions.


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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 18, 2018 5:31 am

Minoa wrote:Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44165718

Some great news that Sergei Skripal has finally been able to leave hospital despite the Novichok poisoning.

I feel that the UK and Russia should take a step back from the diplomatic rift and hear Skripal’s side of the story.

Good news. Which is unfortunately being ignored because everyone here in Britain is so infatuated with Harry and Meghan. The fact that Meghan was upset her father won't attend the wedding was headline news all day yesterday. I am actually away on holiday to Dresden next week, if I'd known about the wedding then I would have made sure that I was away a week earlier, in order to escape the collective madness that has overtaken this usually sedate land...
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Postby Sovaal » Fri May 18, 2018 5:40 am

Bienenhalde wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I never thought I’d say it but we yanks aren’t that prudish


That is because we have strayed from our original Puritan roots and fallen into degeneracy.

Which is wonderful.
And it was o lay you New Englanders that had Puritan routes, and not even all of you.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 6:57 am

Thought this could be interesting to share for people who might not be as familiar with them. There are 208 (iirc) border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, this is a map of them
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 18, 2018 7:02 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thought this could be interesting to share for people who might not be as familiar with them. There are 208 (iirc) border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, this is a map of them


There is one section of road used fairly frequently by lorries that crosses the border 4 times (I think that's the number.) and doesn't have other routes, it's basically a straight line.

NI-> I-> NI -> I. A border check along that road would completely fuck everything up about transporting goods there, and lead it to become extremely congested, essentially turning part of both ireland and northern ireland into a pointless queue of trucks waiting for the ones in front to pass three seperate checks despite the road only being able to take this route, just in case a lorry managed to sneak across the countryside hills and stuff and insert itself into the queue, so you gotta check it three times, obvs.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:05 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thought this could be interesting to share for people who might not be as familiar with them. There are 208 (iirc) border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, this is a map of them


There is one section of road used fairly frequently by lorries that crosses the border 4 times (I think that's the number.)

NI-> I-> NI -> I. A border check along that road would completely fuck everything up.

Yeah
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 18, 2018 7:05 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
There is one section of road used fairly frequently by lorries that crosses the border 4 times (I think that's the number.)

NI-> I-> NI -> I. A border check along that road would completely fuck everything up.

Yeah


That might be the one.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:08 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah


That might be the one.
Oh its going to be sooo much fun
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Postby Ifreann » Fri May 18, 2018 7:13 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thought this could be interesting to share for people who might not be as familiar with them. There are 208 (iirc) border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, this is a map of them

Hiring border guards will bring loads of jobs to the area, Brexit just keeps getting better and better.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri May 18, 2018 7:14 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thought this could be interesting to share for people who might not be as familiar with them. There are 208 (iirc) border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, this is a map of them

The British Government could just be really facetious and use The Berlin Wall as a model for the border crossings...

;)
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:17 am

The New California Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Thought this could be interesting to share for people who might not be as familiar with them. There are 208 (iirc) border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, this is a map of them

The British Government could just be really facetious and use The Berlin Wall as a model for the border crossings...

;)

Oh apparently its going to be a smart techy border with things and the cloud that does cloud things.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 18, 2018 7:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The British Government could just be really facetious and use The Berlin Wall as a model for the border crossings...

;)

Oh apparently its going to be a smart techy border with things and the cloud that does cloud things.


The only sensical approach is to adjust our citizenship laws. We're not allowed to render people stateless, but those born in NI get both British and Irish citizenship anyway.

We adjust the rules so there's border checks between NI and the rest of the UK and tell the DUP to get the fuck over it.
We adjust citizenship rules so people born in NI get Irish citizenship, or British if they are born to British parents inside NI, and then that's that and we don't have to deal with EU migrants abusing the border to get british citizenship and so on.
Fuck a border, it's too much hassle.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:21 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
There is one section of road used fairly frequently by lorries that crosses the border 4 times (I think that's the number.)

NI-> I-> NI -> I. A border check along that road would completely fuck everything up.

Yeah

The Korean solution could always work. Just declare the enclaves a "Joint Peace Area" and then sow a million landmines on either side of the road. Then you only need two border crossings into and out of the zone :)
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:25 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Oh apparently its going to be a smart techy border with things and the cloud that does cloud things.


The only sensical approach is to adjust our citizenship laws. We're not allowed to render people stateless, but those born in NI get both British and Irish citizenship anyway.

We adjust the rules so there's border checks between NI and the rest of the UK and tell the DUP to get the fuck over it.
We adjust citizenship rules so people born in NI get Irish citizenship, or British if they are born to British parents inside NI, and then that's that and we don't have to deal with EU migrants abusing the border to get british citizenship and so on.
Fuck a border, it's too much hassle.

Or you just say screw it NI you’re now Irish
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Fri May 18, 2018 7:26 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The only sensical approach is to adjust our citizenship laws. We're not allowed to render people stateless, but those born in NI get both British and Irish citizenship anyway.

We adjust the rules so there's border checks between NI and the rest of the UK and tell the DUP to get the fuck over it.
We adjust citizenship rules so people born in NI get Irish citizenship, or British if they are born to British parents inside NI, and then that's that and we don't have to deal with EU migrants abusing the border to get british citizenship and so on.
Fuck a border, it's too much hassle.

Or you just say screw it NI you’re now Irish


Or that, yeah, but that would be handing Ireland a lemon in the form of several thousand angry orangists.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri May 18, 2018 7:29 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Or you just say screw it NI you’re now Irish


Or that, yeah, but that would be handing Ireland a lemon in the form of several thousand angry orangists.

It’s not like the Brits haven’t done worse to the Irish
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri May 18, 2018 7:29 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The only sensical approach is to adjust our citizenship laws. We're not allowed to render people stateless, but those born in NI get both British and Irish citizenship anyway.

We adjust the rules so there's border checks between NI and the rest of the UK and tell the DUP to get the fuck over it.
We adjust citizenship rules so people born in NI get Irish citizenship, or British if they are born to British parents inside NI, and then that's that and we don't have to deal with EU migrants abusing the border to get british citizenship and so on.
Fuck a border, it's too much hassle.

Or you just say screw it NI you’re now Irish

Well who knows that might actually end up happening sooner than a lot of people think. Since brexit ive known of quite a few unionists who have gotten irish passports and have said they would rather stick in the EU and if that meant joining the republic they would be for it. And this goes for plenty of lukewarm nationalists who were unsure if it would be better to unify with ireland or not at the moment.

Before brexit the idea of unification was as far as i was concerned incredibly idealistic and would not happen for decades at the minimum. Now.. i could honestly see it being a reality relatively soon. Its going to cause shit no doubt, plenty of protests, riots and maybe some of the loyalist paramilitaries will stop murdering one another over drugs to detonate the odd bomb or carry a mass shooting here or there, though i would never expect anything on the scale of the troubles, and even during the troubles those fellas could never match republican paramilitaries in scale of operation or effectiveness anyway.
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