UK Politics Thread VII: Wake me DUP inside [can't wake UUP]

[The Huskar Social Union]

Get your 500 pages out for the Bais

[Olerand]

Napoléon is dead. This illogical phobia of dead men is... illogical.

This is the first case in history of colonization undertaken against the colonizer's wishes.

EDIT: Though to be clear, I could not be more supportive of Brexit. Britain's place has always been as an American Trojan horse, and it is finally time its bluff is called. Let America have you now.

Not just Mr. Bonaparte, but King Phillip of Spain, Mr Hitler, and of course the less obvious threats of Bonaparte III and Soviet Russia. Britain is God’s own country and as such is well desired by all. We are not a Yankee Trojan horse, it’s called been the gateway to Europe.

... Did you miss my comment on the phobia of dead men? Not a single one of these threats still draws breath. It's time to... move on with history.

You are a yankee Trojan horse, Britain has rarely, if ever, supported policies that are good for Europe. Its exit from the EU is the rectification of a cataclysmic historical mistake.

[Trumptonium1]

rip thread was good to know you

there are, what, four nations that are maybe culturally closer to Britain than Western Europe?

Culturally:
USA (sort of)

lol

[Hrythingia]

Not just Mr. Bonaparte, but King Phillip of Spain, Mr Hitler, and of course the less obvious threats of Bonaparte III and Soviet Russia. Britain is God’s own country and as such is well desired by all. We are not a Yankee Trojan horse, it’s called been the gateway to Europe.

... Did you miss my comment on the phobia of dead men? Not a single one of these threats still draws breath. It's time to... move on with history.

You are a yankee Trojan horse, Britain has rarely, if ever, supported policies that are good for Europe. Its exit from the EU is the rectification of a cataclysmic historical mistake.

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

[Ifreann]

... Did you miss my comment on the phobia of dead men? Not a single one of these threats still draws breath. It's time to... move on with history.

You are a yankee Trojan horse, Britain has rarely, if ever, supported policies that are good for Europe. Its exit from the EU is the rectification of a cataclysmic historical mistake.

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.

And when the invasion comes it will be a defensive invasion, aiming to liberate Ireland after history repeats and you try to conquer us again.

[Olerand]

... Did you miss my comment on the phobia of dead men? Not a single one of these threats still draws breath. It's time to... move on with history.

You are a yankee Trojan horse, Britain has rarely, if ever, supported policies that are good for Europe. Its exit from the EU is the rectification of a cataclysmic historical mistake.

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

Fascinating. As you await the Continental hordes, we'll be busy doing literally everything else.

And because you were in a Union called a "European" Union? It had some sort of treaties or another that laid out its foundations. But anyway, it is true, you were never European, you were an American Trojan horse.

[The Huskar Social Union]

... Did you miss my comment on the phobia of dead men? Not a single one of these threats still draws breath. It's time to... move on with history.

You are a yankee Trojan horse, Britain has rarely, if ever, supported policies that are good for Europe. Its exit from the EU is the rectification of a cataclysmic historical mistake.

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

Dont be so paranoid.

[Proctopeo]

Corbyn is refreshingly less Europhile than most of his party, though he still sold out in the Referendum. It’s not a phobia and it’s not illogical. Centuries of attempted and thankfully mostly failed invasions by European hegemonies are testament to this. As for the modern age, we’ve made our mark elsewhere. Why get into bed with people whom you share little culturally or constitutionally with when there’s a whole family of nations with varying degrees of direct British influence on their daily lives and legal/governmental establishment?

Come now. Not counting tiddly little islands, there are, what, four nations that are maybe culturally closer to Britain than Western Europe? And one of them's the USA, which gets more scary and mental every day.

tfw still have a more sane government than the former British Empire

[Platypus Bureaucracy]

... Did you miss my comment on the phobia of dead men? Not a single one of these threats still draws breath. It's time to... move on with history.

You are a yankee Trojan horse, Britain has rarely, if ever, supported policies that are good for Europe. Its exit from the EU is the rectification of a cataclysmic historical mistake.

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

You are taking the piss, right?

[Hurdergaryp]

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

You are taking the piss, right?

A few decades seems a bit long, yes.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Who is makedeth of thine new thread?

[Albennia]

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

Gaul, your European ancestors are everything but English, please stop using "we"

[Hurdergaryp]

But the threat still remains. It’s happened before and dammit you’ll try again. History repeats itself often and it’ll only be a few decades before troops amass on the shores of Normandy and the Lowlands once again.
Why would we support policies which are ‘good for Europe’? We’re an island with more interests abroad than here. At least until recently. Also what is ‘europe’? It a geographical entity at best and even then its definitions are dubious.

Gaul, your European ancestors are everything but English, please stop using "we"

And the English wouldn't even have come into existence if it hadn't been for all those Germanic immigrants back in the early Middle Ages.

[Trumptonium1]

BMW like Airbus is announcing they could rethink investment as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html

[Fartsniffage]

BMW like Airbus is announcing they could rethink investment as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html

Don't worry about it. It's just part of Project Fear. Brexit will have nothing but good results for the UK.

[Olerand]

BMW like Airbus is announcing they could rethink investment as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html

Britain could just agree to a Norway-style association, and suddenly, all its real problems would be solved. Its delusions however...

[Trumptonium1]

BMW like Airbus is announcing they could rethink investment as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html

Don't worry about it. It's just part of Project Fear. Brexit will have nothing but good results for the UK.

Airbus is an EU project and their CEO is an unpaid EU official, so Airbus threats are nothing surprising.

BMW however are, but one side of me says it's just an attempt at influencing public opinion, and the other side says even if it's true it's not that much to worry about as BMW was on its way out anyway, they only have Mini left and most Minis aren't even produced in the UK.

[Trumptonium1]

BMW like Airbus is announcing they could rethink investment as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html

Britain could just agree to a Norway-style association, and suddenly, all its real problems would be solved. Its delusions however...

What are the UK's "real problems"?

[Dooom35796821595]

BMW like Airbus is announcing they could rethink investment as well
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rexit.html

Don't worry about it. It's just part of Project Fear. Brexit will have nothing but good results for the UK.

If they could get past the bloody Irish border BS.

[Olerand]

Britain could just agree to a Norway-style association, and suddenly, all its real problems would be solved. Its delusions however...

What are the UK's "real problems"?

Partisanship, multinationals threatening to move, economic "uncertainties" forcing market "fluctuations", and other problems of a similar nature.

[Fartsniffage]

What are the UK's "real problems"?

Partisanship, multinationals threatening to move, economic "uncertainties" forcing market "fluctuations", and other problems of a similar nature.

Tell you what. We'll work on that stuff, you work on French baggage handler grounding so many flights.

[Ifreann]

Don't worry about it. It's just part of Project Fear. Brexit will have nothing but good results for the UK.

If they could get past the bloody Irish border BS.

Do the Tories have a plan for the border yet? Because Juncker was over here a little while ago reaffirming that Europe isn't going to kick Ireland to the curb to get a deal. Sort the border out or no deal.

[Trumptonium1]

What are the UK's "real problems"?

Partisanship,

This would be solved by a Norway-style association would it? Which world do you live in

multinationals threatening to move,

Only a problem if it's happening.

economic "uncertainties" forcing market "fluctuations",

Aren't we all?

Uncertainty is uncertainty. No deal, remain and EEA are all certainty, businesses just need a decision.

[Fartsniffage]

If they could get past the bloody Irish border BS.

Do the Tories have a plan for the border yet? Because Juncker was over here a little while ago reaffirming that Europe isn't going to kick Ireland to the curb to get a deal. Sort the border out or no deal.

No one really cares about Ireland. The EU is going to let us use you in any way May wants.

You're a year away from mandatory runs through wheat fields.

[Dooom35796821595]

If they could get past the bloody Irish border BS.

Do the Tories have a plan for the border yet? Because Juncker was over here a little while ago reaffirming that Europe isn't going to kick Ireland to the curb to get a deal. Sort the border out or no deal.

No, they do not. The obvious solution is either a hard border between RoI and NI, or a hard border between NI and UK. But they just won’t choose.