UK Politics Thread VII: Wake me DUP inside [can't wake UUP]

[Dumb Ideologies]

Like, could you not

It's his birthday in two days, we're giving him Ireland as a present.

Error: cannot move file "island of Ireland".

File is currently in use by both Theresa May and the Remoaners.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

They're probably just saying that to be polite.

Can confirm.

It's a very British thing to do, really. If NI ever leaves, you guys should come back.

#bringbackcromwell?

Steady there, none of that. The royal family are an important unifying tool and totem of a more rooted vertical collectivism and our history in an individualistic age.

HOWEVER it is also part of national tradition to maintain a stiff upper lip and not do stupid shit like ostentatiously dressing up as a fucking Union Jack and wailing hysterically outside a hospital because someone who is almost certainly not even ever going to be the fucking monarch fell out of a royal vajajay.

The royal family do good work, but I wouldn't shed a single tear if the crowds outside were publicly disemboweled and then strangled by their own intestines as punishment for shaming our country.

As always, I pitch my tent in the all-important centre ground.

Is it a royal vagina, though? Can simply marrying into royalty make ones genitalia royal? Would it not be more accurate to say that it fell out of the vagina that sometimes hosts a royal penis?

Important questions. Constitutional experts to discuss the matter on the 10 o'clock news.

[Ifreann]

#bringbackcromwell?

Steady there, none of that. The royal family are an important unifying tool and totem of a more rooted vertical collectivism and our history in an individualistic age.

HOWEVER it is also part of national tradition to maintain a stiff upper lip and not do stupid shit like ostentatiously dressing up as a fucking Union Jack and wailing hysterically outside a hospital because someone who is almost certainly not even ever going to be the fucking monarch fell out of a royal vajajay.

The royal family do good work, but I wouldn't shed a single tear if the crowds outside were publicly disemboweled and then strangled by their own intestines as punishment for shaming our country.

As always, I pitch my tent in the all-important centre ground.

DI was later arrested for attempting to camp on the grounds of Buckingham Palace.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Can confirm.

It's a very British thing to do, really. If NI ever leaves, you guys should come back.

Steady there, none of that. The royal family are an important unifying tool and totem of a more rooted vertical collectivism and our history in an individualistic age.

HOWEVER it is also part of national tradition to maintain a stiff upper lip and not do stupid shit like ostentatiously dressing up as a fucking Union Jack and wailing hysterically outside a hospital because someone who is almost certainly not even ever going to be the fucking monarch fell out of a royal vajajay.

The royal family do good work, but I wouldn't shed a single tear if the crowds outside were publicly disemboweled and then strangled by their own intestines as punishment for shaming our country.

As always, I pitch my tent in the all-important centre ground.

Is it a royal vagina, though? Can simply marrying into royalty make ones genitalia royal? Would it not be more accurate to say that it fell out of the vagina that sometimes hosts a royal penis?

Important questions. Constitutional experts to discuss the matter on the 10 o'clock news.

Make it a themed evening of television. After the news, get Frankie Boyle to co-host a program with Derek Acorah to find out if the Queen's pussy really is haunted.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Like, could you not

It's his birthday in two days, we're giving him Ireland as a present.

Right time to visit ole gerry and get a rifle out of storage for the zombie fucker.

[Vassenor]

It's his birthday in two days, we're giving him Ireland as a present.

Right time to visit ole gerry and get a rifle out of storage for the zombie fucker.

Oh, did they find exactly what flowerbed in Cambridge his head is buried in?

[Hurdergaryp]

It's his birthday in two days, we're giving him Ireland as a present.

Right time to visit ole gerry and get a rifle out of storage for the zombie fucker.

Oh, very well. Bring back William III of England, then.

[Anywhere Else But Here]

Right time to visit ole gerry and get a rifle out of storage for the zombie fucker.

Oh, very well. Bring back William III of England, then.

Do we have to wait through the reigns of zombie Charles II and zombie James II first?

[NERVUN]

File is currently in use by both Theresa May and the Remoaners.

Let's not.

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[Greater vakolicci haven]

File is currently in use by both Theresa May and the Remoaners.

Let's not.

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I have heard people on question time self-describe as a 'remoaner.'

[Trumptonium1]

Let's not.

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I have heard people on question time self-describe as a 'remoaner.'

Yes that was a rather weird decision but whatever.

[Vassenor]

Let's not.

*** Warned for trolling ***.

I have heard people on question time self-describe as a 'remoaner.'

Does that somehow make it not a derogatory term?

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I have heard people on question time self-describe as a 'remoaner.'

Does that somehow make it not a derogatory term?

When people who are described by that term use it to describe their own political position?

Yes...yes it does.

[Fartsniffage]

People reporting things in the British Politics thread? That's not very stiff upper lip of you.

[Ifreann]

People reporting things in the British Politics thread? That's not very stiff upper lip of you.

Brexit is bringing many changes.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

People reporting things in the British Politics thread? That's not very stiff upper lip of you.

If you never report, you never invite bad decisions. The solution is to never report.

[Vassenor]

People reporting things in the British Politics thread? That's not very stiff upper lip of you.

Brexit is bringing many changes.

#strongandstable

[Trumptonium1]

I have heard people on question time self-describe as a 'remoaner.'

Does that somehow make it not a derogatory term?

Yes, that's what the mods said when they ruled calling anyone Mr/Mrs Alternative Facts was not derogatory - it has self-describing use by its 'proponents'

[MERIZoC]

All the major parties support unification. FF and FG don't really push for it, but I don't imagine there's any way they'd campaign against it in a referendum.

They're probably just saying that to be polite.

Sure, but I don't see how that contradicts anything I said. The polling thats been done shows a significant majority support for unification.

[Ostroeuropa]

In case it informs people:

First time using a food bank, I didn't realize you needed a slip of paper for it. It's red and contains details. I got it through a social worker and don't know if there are other means.

It was a local baptist church, and there was flyers and leaflets for them around, which I suppose I can't fault them for necessarily given the work they're doing here.

Questions;
"Porridge or cereal?"
"Pasta, Rice, or Noodles?"
"Coffee or Tea?"
"Sugar? Y/N?"
"Do you have a fridge?"
"Do you have cooking facilities?"

After which I sat down at a table and was given tea with milk and sugar, and some cheese on toast while they processed it. Some of the churchgoers talked to me about what was going on and I told them my situation.
At no point did they proselytize to me, the closest to it being when I directly inquired which church it was (I only knew the name) and they described the building, its location, and pointed out my grandmother goes there and if I needed to know more I could ask her about it.

We drifted away from the topic of my problems when another user turned and asked if I was my uncles nephew (With names, obviously), and then somehow got onto the topic of the council closing the public toilets and the grim prospects of that idea going down well and discussed local politics and the necessity of the local public toilets for a tourist town, eventually supposing that perhaps the local guild of merchants and shopkeepers would split the tab for their upkeep.

One of the people came back with two bags of food.
Inside was as follows:

Milk (1 litre)
Mayonaise
Orange Juice (Sainsburys)
Sainsbury's brand rich roast coffee
Sugar (500g, 60 pence)
Rich tea biscuits.
4 Cup servings of Quaker oats porridge
2 "Snack Noodles" which look suspiciously like a more famous brand of noodles in a pot, right down to the style of writing and the colors.
1 Teriyaki noodles (Sainsbury)
1 jar of tomato pasta sauce
2 tins of tomato soup
1 tin of peas
1 tin of carrots
1 tin of chopped tomatos
1 tin of peaches
1 tin of pears
1 tin of tuna
1 tin of corned beef
1 tin of macaroni and cheese
1 tin of beef ravioli
1 tin of custard
1 tin of rice pudding
1 chocolate bar

Presumably there is either a collection plate, government funds, or the parishioners just straight up donate the food.
Post may be worthwhile to remember in case we see people spreading misinformation about the food banks and what they offer.
Ostroeuropa Foodbank Baptists

[Socialist Czechia]

Main problem with Brexit is not Brexit, but the fact that government never really believed people would vote yup.
Everything could be prepared/solved BEFORE voting: imigration, trade (like re-joining EFTA option), Northern Ireland etc.

Vote yeah and only afterwards try figure out what to do, that's not very wise logic from the start.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Main problem with Brexit is not Brexit, but the fact that government never really believed people would vote yup.
Everything could be prepared/solved BEFORE voting: imigration, trade (like re-joining EFTA option), Northern Ireland etc.

Vote yeah and only afterwards try figure out what to do, that's not very wise logic from the start.

This is a fair point. But it's even worse than this because they're still not sufficiently investing in preparing the immigration and customs institutions for a no deal or very limited deal, which is a very strong negotiating signal for "we'll eventually have to cave to anything Europe demands because we have no contingencies." May lacks the political capital and numbers to confidently take any big decisions, but can't take the issues to an election to try to win a mandate because she'd quite possibly end up with another stalemate or an outright defeat.

The government's Brexit "vision" even now is to drift and make the vaguest placatory statements possible in the hope of muddling through in government as long as they can, and hope an acceptable deal will magically fall into their pocket if they stare into the Mirror of Erised long enough.

They're asleep at the wheel and even to a fanatical order-oriented sort as myself jokes about revolution or a monarchist putsch are reaching the territory of only semi-ironic. Brexit is too important to be handled this ineptly and drift into an Andrex-soft capitulation deal or an elite swindle to call the whole thing off.

[Ostroeuropa]

Main problem with Brexit is not Brexit, but the fact that government never really believed people would vote yup.
Everything could be prepared/solved BEFORE voting: imigration, trade (like re-joining EFTA option), Northern Ireland etc.

Vote yeah and only afterwards try figure out what to do, that's not very wise logic from the start.

This is a fair point. But it's even worse than this because they're still not sufficiently investing in preparing the immigration and customs institutions for a no deal or very limited deal, which is a very strong negotiating signal for "we'll eventually have to cave to anything Europe demands because we have no contingencies." May lacks the political capital and numbers to confidently take any big decisions, but can't take the issues to an election to try to win a mandate because she'd quite possibly end up with another stalemate or an outright defeat.

The government's Brexit "vision" even now is to drift and make the vaguest placatory statements possible in the hope of muddling through in government as long as they can, and hope an acceptable deal will magically fall into their pocket if they stare into the Mirror of Erised long enough.

They're asleep at the wheel and even to a fanatical order-oriented sort as myself jokes about revolution or a monarchist putsch are reaching the territory of only semi-ironic. Brexit is too important to be handled this ineptly and drift into an Andrex-soft capitulation deal or an elite swindle to call the whole thing off.

A populist, nationalist, socially democratic party is absent, and so no party can express the popular will and command a majority large enough to enforce the radical changes we need and the public supports. The shift is occurring but split between the major parties. The importance of Brexit cannot be appropriately handled without the publics support, and there is no viable candidate deserving of it.

The ascension of both May and Corbyn are nominal shifts toward better representing the public view, though only along certain axis, and our parties appear insistent on partitioning the populist, nationalist and social democratic vision, which means perpetual gridlock.

[Dumb Ideologies]

This is a fair point. But it's even worse than this because they're still not sufficiently investing in preparing the immigration and customs institutions for a no deal or very limited deal, which is a very strong negotiating signal for "we'll eventually have to cave to anything Europe demands because we have no contingencies." May lacks the political capital and numbers to confidently take any big decisions, but can't take the issues to an election to try to win a mandate because she'd quite possibly end up with another stalemate or an outright defeat.

The government's Brexit "vision" even now is to drift and make the vaguest placatory statements possible in the hope of muddling through in government as long as they can, and hope an acceptable deal will magically fall into their pocket if they stare into the Mirror of Erised long enough.

They're asleep at the wheel and even to a fanatical order-oriented sort as myself jokes about revolution or a monarchist putsch are reaching the territory of only semi-ironic. Brexit is too important to be handled this ineptly and drift into an Andrex-soft capitulation deal or an elite swindle to call the whole thing off.

A populist, nationalist, socially democratic party is absent, and so no party can express the popular will and command a majority large enough to enforce the radical changes we need and the public supports. The shift is occurring but split between the major parties. The importance of Brexit cannot be appropriately handled without the publics support, and there is no viable candidate deserving of it.

The ascension of both May and Corbyn are nominal shifts toward better representing the public view, though only along certain axis, and our parties appear insistent on partitioning the populist, nationalist and social democratic vision, which means perpetual gridlock.

Lead us Ostro! Lead us!

[Ostroeuropa]

A populist, nationalist, socially democratic party is absent, and so no party can express the popular will and command a majority large enough to enforce the radical changes we need and the public supports. The shift is occurring but split between the major parties. The importance of Brexit cannot be appropriately handled without the publics support, and there is no viable candidate deserving of it.

The ascension of both May and Corbyn are nominal shifts toward better representing the public view, though only along certain axis, and our parties appear insistent on partitioning the populist, nationalist and social democratic vision, which means perpetual gridlock.

Lead us Ostro! Lead us!

You do it. I'd end up going batshit with power and trying to radically transform the culture of the country and government.

"Yeah, we're getting rid of the lords and putting in a second house of randomly selected citizens for each bill as jurors to serve as a check on the tyranny of the political class."
->
"I saved all of you so now i'm turning up to work in a supervillain costume and i'm making my cabinet do the same. Deal with it."