UK Politics Thread VII: Wake me DUP inside [can't wake UUP]

[HMS Barham]

I said that the British ethnicity is dying out, which is true

There are more White Britons than ever before.

[Vassenor]

I mean there's already dedicated Eurotunnel trains for lorries, so...

Limited capacity, timetabling, etc.

In theory, a tunnel for commercial road traffic in addition to that could improve transport links. Though the safety concerns in a 22 mile tunnel, particularly one underwater, would be enormous.

For reference, the current longest road tunnel in the world is 15 miles.

[Imperializt Russia]

There are more White Britons than ever before.

Fundamentally, how can "the British ethnicity" being dying out when the population of white Britons keeps increasing?

The fact that more people not of the White British demographic live here now does not subtract from the number of White Britons.

[HMS Barham]

Well, the birthrates of native European ethnic groups aren't at replacement level for the mostpart, and their governments are pushing for immigration suspiciously hard.........

Which governments specifically are "pushing for immigration suspicioulsy hard"? E.g. Not even the most extreme left in my country of argues in favour of mass importation, or whatever the term would be. The maximum is open borders and the people in favour of that are a tiny minority.

Depends on your baseline expectations. But suppose we took Japan as our expected baseline. There are a lot of countries in the world where it is illegal to naturalise as a citizen except after converting to their state religion/in very arcane circumstances/ever. In most Western European countries, it's quasi-illegal to oppose immigration of even entirely useless, disloyal people publicly.

[HMS Barham]

Fundamentally, how can "the British ethnicity" being dying out when the population of white Britons keeps increasing?

The fact that more people not of the White British demographic live here now does not subtract from the number of White Britons.

Because the total number is only increasing due to the time lag between age of peak fertility and age of death. I can't tell if you are being deliberately dishonest or not.

[Vassenor]

Fundamentally, how can "the British ethnicity" being dying out when the population of white Britons keeps increasing?

The fact that more people not of the White British demographic live here now does not subtract from the number of White Britons.

But they're not as big of an absolute majority any more ("only" 87% of the population is White British according to the 2011 census) and that's a crime against humanity or something.

[Imperializt Russia]

Fundamentally, how can "the British ethnicity" being dying out when the population of white Britons keeps increasing?

The fact that more people not of the White British demographic live here now does not subtract from the number of White Britons.

Because the total number is only increasing due to the time lag between age of peak fertility and age of death. I can't tell if you are being deliberately dishonest or not.

Yes, it is below replacement. It is still increasing. And even when it begins to decline, it will merely be somewhat in decline.

It will not be "dying out".

[The Huskar Social Union]

I get that's where you're coming from but the question still stands....

*alan partridge.jpg*

This is great banter.

In other news, Bojo apparently wants a bridge between the UK and France. I think he needs a hard Bojxit from government.

Will carillion build it though?

[HMS Barham]

Because the total number is only increasing due to the time lag between age of peak fertility and age of death. I can't tell if you are being deliberately dishonest or not.

Yes, it is below replacement. It is still increasing. And even when it begins to decline, it will merely be somewhat in decline.

It will not be "dying out".

Constant decline asymptotes to zero. What you are saying is that the British will die out on a longer time scale than your care about, not that they will not die out.

[Vassenor]

So where is the data about how the White British ethnicity is being wiped out?

[Ifreann]

Yes, it is below replacement. It is still increasing. And even when it begins to decline, it will merely be somewhat in decline.

It will not be "dying out".

Constant decline asymptotes to zero. What you are saying is that the British will die out on a longer time scale than your care about, not that they will not die out.

[Trumptonium]

German President of the Central Bank (Bundesbank) Weidmann says slow wage growth is to blame on EU migration putting pressure on German labour compensation.

Fucking racist Brexiteers have now infiltrated the Bundesbank. Haven't they got the memo that mass migration is positive for economic growth and wage rises? I thought UK experience put that issue to death!

[Minoa]

Hi,

Regarding Johnson’s idea for a bridge-based channel crossing, it has been proposed before, and it was called EuroRoute: http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/euroroute

[Dumb Ideologies]

Hi,

Regarding Johnson’s idea for a bridge-based channel crossing, it has been proposed before, and it was called EuroRoute: http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/euroroute

What a terrible name. "Highway to Hell" is much better. Put a sign as you enter France warning that you're now leaving civilisation.

Preferred option is that we make it one way only, don't let anyone who leaves ever come back, and call it the "Autobanned".

[Salandriagado]

I get that's where you're coming from but the question still stands....

*alan partridge.jpg*

This is great banter.

In other news, Bojo apparently wants a bridge between the UK and France. I think he needs a hard Bojxit from government.

"No specific plans" here means "the engineers haven't stopped laughing long enough to tell us how stupid it is yet".

[Salandriagado]

Oh hey, the white genocide myth. Everybody drink.

Well, the birthrates of native European ethnic groups aren't at replacement level for the mostpart, and their governments are pushing for immigration suspiciously hard.........

Because declining and aging populations are problematic, given that it increases the ratio of dependants to works, and immigration is the only reasonable solution.

[Val Halla]

Boris is the Prime Minister we deserve and probably want too

[Salandriagado]

And this proves some massive global conspiracy to eliminate the white race... how?

I mean it's not like this myth has been floating around for the best part of a decade or anything.

I said that the British ethnicity is dying out, which is true, not that there is a "massive global conspiracy to eliminate the white race".

https://i.imgur.com/XgtJTMj.jpg

You are factually incorrect, largely because maths.

Fun fact: even if all breeding was done with a partner uniformly randomly selected from the whole population, genetic groupings such as that would still not die out. They'd just get more spread out.

[Ifreann]

*alan partridge.jpg*

This is great banter.

In other news, Bojo apparently wants a bridge between the UK and France. I think he needs a hard Bojxit from government.

"No specific plans" here means "the engineers haven't stopped laughing long enough to tell us how stupid it is yet".

But Boris worked so hard on those napkins!

[Salandriagado]

Hi,

Regarding Johnson’s idea for a bridge-based channel crossing, it has been proposed before, and it was called EuroRoute: http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/euroroute

And it was batshit crazy then. Also, the bridge in that picture is ~20 times too low.

[Imperializt Russia]

German President of the Central Bank (Bundesbank) Weidmann says slow wage growth is to blame on EU migration putting pressure on German labour compensation.

Fucking racist Brexiteers have now infiltrated the Bundesbank. Haven't they got the memo that mass migration is positive for economic growth and wage rises? I thought UK experience put that issue to death!

Well, it has, because the UK experience isn't the German experience.

[Minoa]

Hi,

Regarding Johnson’s idea for a bridge-based channel crossing, it has been proposed before, and it was called EuroRoute: http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/euroroute

And it was batshit crazy then. Also, the bridge in that picture is ~20 times too low.

Side winds would be the greatest challenge: if there were gales, the bridge would be shut and the traffic would have to fight for space on Le Shuttle.

[Trumptonium]

Hi,

Regarding Johnson’s idea for a bridge-based channel crossing, it has been proposed before, and it was called EuroRoute: http://www.cbrd.co.uk/articles/euroroute

And it was batshit crazy then. Also, the bridge in that picture is ~20 times too low.

Not at all.

A Channel Bridge would not even fit into the longest 10 bridges in the world or top 3 over water.

The longest is in Louisiana over a lake, 23 miles.

[Trumptonium]

And it was batshit crazy then. Also, the bridge in that picture is ~20 times too low.

Side winds would be the greatest challenge: if there were gales, the bridge would be shut and the traffic would have to fight for space on Le Shuttle.

Most bridge designs in the 80s incorporated an enclosed highway .. sort of like a tunnel but overground. Anything from side panels you see on bridges around the country to this

https://content.assets.pressassociation ... a76d07.jpg

Note 2: The final projection of a bridge cost was actually lower than the final Eurotunnel cost.

[Somecoldwetislands]

The biggest challenges to the bridge would probably be more to do with it getting gummed up with customs checks post Brexit, as opposed to any engineering difficulties.