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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:46 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
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We'll see, won't we. And that is an odd way to spell that.

I ask because the Sun's June 8th election special front page was "Don't chuck Britain in the Cor-Bin" with an image of Corbs peering out of a bin.
It's also not an odd spelling. As Martyn is a surname of Irish origin (Galway tribe) which has become a variant of the English given name Martin, it's possible that it also shows Irish heritage. "Behind The Name" suggests that Martyn as a given name is of Welsh and Ukrainian origin.

In any case, no, there is no mass central plan to deselect MPs. There are serious proposals to make it easier to trigger deselection proceedings, which would apply to all MPs, which is an effort to greater recognise the obvious influence and appeal of Labour Party membership.

The official line on such measures is to increase democracy within the party's workings, including the line "no MP should consider their safe seat a job for life".
I certainly wouldn't think anyone would disagree with that suggestion.


Well I consider it an odd spelling. Unless you're supposed to pronounce the y?

I've never liked party politics at the best of times, since it produces people who vote for the party instead of the person they want to represent them, which is supposed to be at the core of our democracy.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:04 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I ask because the Sun's June 8th election special front page was "Don't chuck Britain in the Cor-Bin" with an image of Corbs peering out of a bin.
It's also not an odd spelling. As Martyn is a surname of Irish origin (Galway tribe) which has become a variant of the English given name Martin, it's possible that it also shows Irish heritage. "Behind The Name" suggests that Martyn as a given name is of Welsh and Ukrainian origin.

In any case, no, there is no mass central plan to deselect MPs. There are serious proposals to make it easier to trigger deselection proceedings, which would apply to all MPs, which is an effort to greater recognise the obvious influence and appeal of Labour Party membership.

The official line on such measures is to increase democracy within the party's workings, including the line "no MP should consider their safe seat a job for life".
I certainly wouldn't think anyone would disagree with that suggestion.


Well I consider it an odd spelling. Unless you're supposed to pronounce the y?

I've never liked party politics at the best of times, since it produces people who vote for the party instead of the person they want to represent them, which is supposed to be at the core of our democracy.

Well it's a fool's game, isn't it? Regardless of who you vote for as MP, they toe their party line, and have their budgets, priorities and remits set out by central government.

Cleethorpes could have their Conservative MP succeeded by a legit social democrat Conservative. Ignoring why the fuck they're a Tory member, let alone candidate, I'm still not going to vote for them, because that is a vote in favour of the Tory party, which regionally will contribute to a national Tory government.

Constituency Link has a place, but in our system, it's irrelevant.
If two votes were cast, for central government through PR and another (possibly FPTP) to actually elect an MP, and then MPs vote in Parliament weighted to their Party's vote share...
That would work. irl, it doesn't.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:08 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:Well I consider it an odd spelling. Unless you're supposed to pronounce the y?

Well, it's Welsh.

"Gwynevere" is pronounced "Gwin", and it's the same for Martyn and Corbyn. Martyn, as both a given name and surname, is very common in the UK. At least as much so as the typical "Martin".
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Postby Souseiseki » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:10 am

i just want to say that i am extremely amused at the idea that a regularly posted in the UK politics thread may have legit never heard corbyns name spoken out loud before
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:11 am

Jeremy Corbine

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:17 am

Souseiseki wrote:i just want to say that i am extremely amused at the idea that a regularly posted in the UK politics thread may have legit never heard corbyns name spoken out loud before


Of course I've heard it spoken, and seen it written. I just assumed it was spelled with an i not a y.
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Postby Frank Zipper » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:20 am

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:i just want to say that i am extremely amused at the idea that a regularly posted in the UK politics thread may have legit never heard corbyns name spoken out loud before


Of course I've heard it spoken, and seen it written. I just assumed it was spelled with an i not a y.


Awesome observation skills.
Put this in your signature if you are easily led.

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:24 am

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Of course I've heard it spoken, and seen it written. I just assumed it was spelled with an i not a y.


Awesome observation skills.


Or a mistake, something everyone makes.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:47 am

MERIZoC wrote:Jeremy Corbine

I've got a brand new Corbine harvester, I'll give you the key
Come on now let's all vote Labour in perfect harmony
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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:40 am

Ifreann wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Jeremy Corbine

I've got a brand new Corbine harvester, I'll give you the key
Come on now let's all vote Labour in perfect harmony


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Postby Fartsniffage » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:01 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/do ... s-10812882

This is a friend of mine. I met him when I worked at British Gas.

Fuck PIPs. That is all.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:30 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-amputee-constant-agony-faces-10812882

This is a friend of mine. I met him when I worked at British Gas.

Fuck PIPs. That is all.

"You can walk 20 metres, you don't need a car" sounds like all those jokes about "Egyptian driving test" where it's drive forwards, change gear, drive backwards, congratulations you passed!
Or the Vietnamese moped licence test (parts) that they showed on Top Gear.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:50 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-amputee-constant-agony-faces-10812882

This is a friend of mine. I met him when I worked at British Gas.

Fuck PIPs. That is all.

"You can walk 20 metres, you don't need a car" sounds like all those jokes about "Egyptian driving test" where it's drive forwards, change gear, drive backwards, congratulations you passed!
Or the Vietnamese moped licence test (parts) that they showed on Top Gear.
Its fucked up.

Its like with my mother when she went for an examination to see if she could still qualify for her money a few years ago, and the guy who examined her decided she didnt need it any more because she walked up a hall way with handbag despite her massive history of strokes, heart attacks, diabetes and being physically unfit for work and all of this being verified by several doctors and social workers.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:45 am

Fartsniffage wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-amputee-constant-agony-faces-10812882

This is a friend of mine. I met him when I worked at British Gas.

Fuck PIPs. That is all.

UK's seeming more like America every day.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:46 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/double-amputee-constant-agony-faces-10812882

This is a friend of mine. I met him when I worked at British Gas.

Fuck PIPs. That is all.

UK's seeming more like America every day.


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Postby Kvatchdom » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:48 am

Vassenor wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:UK's seeming more like America every day.


Fifty-First State when?

If the EU gives the UK a shit trade deal, won't be a long wait :D
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Postby Frank Zipper » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:38 am

Theresa May has told the Cabinet they need to show "Strength and Unity". One woman's quest for a slogan.
Put this in your signature if you are easily led.

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Postby Souseiseki » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:47 am

Frank Zipper wrote:Theresa May has told the Cabinet they need to show "Strength and Unity". One woman's quest for a slogan.


what about "Strength Through Unity"? i think she might be onto something here.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:49 am

Souseiseki wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:Theresa May has told the Cabinet they need to show "Strength and Unity". One woman's quest for a slogan.


what about "Strength Through Unity"? i think she might be onto something here.

Isn't that one of the preset NS mottos
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:53 am

Frank Zipper wrote:Theresa May has told the Cabinet they need to show "Strength and Unity". One woman's quest for a slogan.


Rebrand the cabinet as "Maychester United".
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:02 am

Kvatchdom wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
what about "Strength Through Unity"? i think she might be onto something here.

Isn't that one of the preset NS mottos

No, it's one half of the mantra of the literal-fascist Norsefire government in V for Vendetta.

"Strength through Unity"
"Unity through Faith"

It might also be a preset NS motto because of that connotation.
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Postby Kvatchdom » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:30 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Kvatchdom wrote:Isn't that one of the preset NS mottos

No, it's one half of the mantra of the literal-fascist Norsefire government in V for Vendetta.

"Strength through Unity"
"Unity through Faith"

It might also be a preset NS motto because of that connotation.

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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:35 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Frank Zipper wrote:Theresa May has told the Cabinet they need to show "Strength and Unity". One woman's quest for a slogan.


Rebrand the cabinet as "Maychester United".

The Blue Devils.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Rebrand the cabinet as "Maychester United".

The Blue Devils.


On second thoughts, how about Maywall - good synergy with the main promise of the leader of our dear American allies, plus the very fitting "no one like us, we don't care" chant.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 18, 2017 5:53 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The Blue Devils.


On second thoughts, how about Maywall - good synergy with the main promise of the leader of our dear American allies, plus the very fitting "no one like us, we don't care" chant.

And walls project a very stable image.
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