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What faction(s) do you support in the Syrian civil war? Check any that apply

Syrian government/SAA
98
18%
Syrian Democratic Forces/YPG
124
22%
Tahrir al-Sham (Nusra)
10
2%
Ahrar al-Sham/other opposition
14
3%
Turkey/TFSA
20
4%
ISIS
17
3%
Hezbollah
40
7%
Russia
55
10%
United States/NATO/Israel
130
23%
Iran
49
9%
 
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:38 am

Nioya wrote:what mid east countries are the most messed up in ranks? In terms of law and policy.

Saudi Arabia definitely takes the cake for being messed up.
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:30 am

Nioya wrote:what mid east countries are the most messed up in ranks? In terms of law and policy.

Saudi Arabia and Iran are good competitors.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:01 am

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Shurjah wrote:Shiism is an Iranian product and Assad loves Iran raping him with militias and all this and the shrines have their architecture it is Iran's army fighting in Syria against Arab Muslims.


No mate. Iran is basically the reason Syria still exists. Your Wahhabi friends were raping the country long before the first Iranian ever set foot in Syria.

That is bullshit fuck Iran
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:02 am

Nioya wrote:what mid east countries are the most messed up in ranks? In terms of law and policy.

Iran, Syria, Iraq and Egypt
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:03 am

Shurjah wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
No mate. Iran is basically the reason Syria still exists. Your Wahhabi friends were raping the country long before the first Iranian ever set foot in Syria.

That is bullshit fuck Iran

>What is the 1979 Muslim Brotherhood rebellion.

Wahhabism and the Muslim Brotherhood is literally one of the biggest factors why the Middle East is a mess now.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:05 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is bullshit fuck Iran

>What is the 1979 Muslim Brotherhood rebellion.

Wahhabism and the Muslim Brotherhood is literally one of the biggest factors why the Middle East is a mess now.

No the biggest problem is dicks like Qaddafi and Assad and arrogant ones like KSA and UAE
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:06 am

Shurjah wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:>What is the 1979 Muslim Brotherhood rebellion.

Wahhabism and the Muslim Brotherhood is literally one of the biggest factors why the Middle East is a mess now.

No the biggest problem is dicks like Qaddafi and Assad and arrogant ones like KSA and UAE

You're aware Libya was one of the best countries to live in prior to the removal of Qaddafi?

It's not as if Libya is much better off now.
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:07 am

Shurjah wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:>What is the 1979 Muslim Brotherhood rebellion.

Wahhabism and the Muslim Brotherhood is literally one of the biggest factors why the Middle East is a mess now.

No the biggest problem is dicks like Qaddafi and Assad and arrogant ones like KSA and UAE


Seriously man. What is even your reason for being here? You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about, amd all you're doing is sounding like a kid throwing a tantrum.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:09 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Shurjah wrote:No the biggest problem is dicks like Qaddafi and Assad and arrogant ones like KSA and UAE

You're aware Libya was one of the best countries to live in prior to the removal of Qaddafi?

It's not as if Libya is much better off now.

I live in Libya yes we had some safety and nice buildings but Qaddafi was a dick we all hate him we would never have rebelled otherwise the issue here is Haftar and Thani they are rebelling for no reason and are selfish. I do not want Qaddafi back and if those Green Brigade gangs come here I will fight them.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:11 am

Alsheb wrote:
Shurjah wrote:No the biggest problem is dicks like Qaddafi and Assad and arrogant ones like KSA and UAE


Seriously man. What is even your reason for being here? You don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about, amd all you're doing is sounding like a kid throwing a tantrum.

I didn't realize how ignorant people could be now I'm in too deep to leave
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:11 am

Shurjah wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:You're aware Libya was one of the best countries to live in prior to the removal of Qaddafi?

It's not as if Libya is much better off now.

I live in Libya yes we had some safety and nice buildings but Qaddafi was a dick we all hate him we would never have rebelled otherwise the issue here is Haftar and Thani they are rebelling for no reason and are selfish. I do not want Qaddafi back and if those Green Brigade gangs come here I will fight them.

Protip: every leader is selfish. Atleast you had a selfish prick who did good for the country, aka Gaddafi.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:13 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I live in Libya yes we had some safety and nice buildings but Qaddafi was a dick we all hate him we would never have rebelled otherwise the issue here is Haftar and Thani they are rebelling for no reason and are selfish. I do not want Qaddafi back and if those Green Brigade gangs come here I will fight them.

Protip: every leader is selfish. Atleast you had a selfish prick who did good for the country, aka Gaddafi.

No he was not I am glad Qatar and America got rid of him he did nothing except yell about his Green Book and Socialist shit and his police did nothing he was a moron he was crazy.
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Postby The Eternal Aulus » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:15 am

Shurjah wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Protip: every leader is selfish. Atleast you had a selfish prick who did good for the country, aka Gaddafi.

No he was not I am glad Qatar and America got rid of him he did nothing except yell about his Green Book and Socialist shit and his police did nothing he was a moron he was crazy.

So living in a destroyed country is better than living in a stable, relative prospering country?
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:18 am

The Eternal Aulus wrote:
Shurjah wrote:No he was not I am glad Qatar and America got rid of him he did nothing except yell about his Green Book and Socialist shit and his police did nothing he was a moron he was crazy.

So living in a destroyed country is better than living in a stable, relative prospering country?

Destroyed? No I have a nice house built in 2013 I was in the police but left because I got a better job and I work at my new job and make okay money my father works for a Euro petrol company the worst I ever saw was a drone strike Tripoli still has its nice towers we can leave whenever life is fine the bad areas are Srt and Banghazi
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:24 am

Shurjah wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:Protip: every leader is selfish. Atleast you had a selfish prick who did good for the country, aka Gaddafi.

No he was not I am glad Qatar and America got rid of him he did nothing except yell about his Green Book and Socialist shit and his police did nothing he was a moron he was crazy.


And now Libya is a hellhole owned by sectarian mass murderers, who literally sell people into slavery. Well done.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:25 am

Alsheb wrote:
Shurjah wrote:No he was not I am glad Qatar and America got rid of him he did nothing except yell about his Green Book and Socialist shit and his police did nothing he was a moron he was crazy.


And now Libya is a hellhole owned by sectarian mass murderers, who literally sell people into slavery. Well done.

No when I was in police we arrested a human traffiker and drug sellers along with illegal immigrants part of my job was border enforcement.
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:40 am

Shurjah wrote:
Alsheb wrote:
And now Libya is a hellhole owned by sectarian mass murderers, who literally sell people into slavery. Well done.

No when I was in police we arrested a human traffiker and drug sellers along with illegal immigrants part of my job was border enforcement.


Which are issues that only started plaguing Libya after your pals the Wahhabi degenerates destroyed the country.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:13 am

Shurjah wrote:
The Eternal Aulus wrote:You're aware Libya was one of the best countries to live in prior to the removal of Qaddafi?

It's not as if Libya is much better off now.

I live in Libya yes we had some safety and nice buildings but Qaddafi was a dick we all hate him we would never have rebelled otherwise

Can't this same logic be applied to the rebels and Saddam? Why would they have rebelled if Saddam was a good leader?
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:14 am

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Alsheb wrote:
No mate. Iran is basically the reason Syria still exists. Your Wahhabi friends were raping the country long before the first Iranian ever set foot in Syria.

That is bullshit fuck Iran

Yes. This statement contributes to good debate.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:17 am

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Shurjah wrote:I live in Libya yes we had some safety and nice buildings but Qaddafi was a dick we all hate him we would never have rebelled otherwise

Can't this same logic be applied to the rebels and Saddam? Why would they have rebelled if Saddam was a good leader?

The South rebelled, was Lincoln a bad leader?
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:18 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:That is bullshit fuck Iran

Yes. This statement contributes to good debate.

Wahhabi discussion skills, I'm afraid.
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:19 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Can't this same logic be applied to the rebels and Saddam? Why would they have rebelled if Saddam was a good leader?

The South rebelled, was Lincoln a bad leader?


Lincoln used barrel bombs and sarin gas on peaceful protesting slaveowners. It is known.
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:41 am

Alsheb wrote:
Shurjah wrote:No when I was in police we arrested a human traffiker and drug sellers along with illegal immigrants part of my job was border enforcement.


Which are issues that only started plaguing Libya after your pals the Wahhabi degenerates destroyed the country.

No we had crime before our revolution like this except the police did nothing
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Postby Shurjah » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:44 am

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:I live in Libya yes we had some safety and nice buildings but Qaddafi was a dick we all hate him we would never have rebelled otherwise

Can't this same logic be applied to the rebels and Saddam? Why would they have rebelled if Saddam was a good leader?

No because the only people rebelling were Kurds and they rebel everyday regaurdless of Saddam, Maliki or their old King before either of them and the other rebels were Iranian terrorists.

Here in Libya it was everyone rebelling army, store owners farmers
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Postby Alsheb » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:46 am

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Can't this same logic be applied to the rebels and Saddam? Why would they have rebelled if Saddam was a good leader?

No because the only people rebelling were Kurds and they rebel everyday regaurdless of Saddam, Maliki or their old King before either of them and the other rebels were Iranian terrorists.

Here in Libya it was everyone rebelling army, store owners farmers


Your "rebels" were foreign Wahhabis and NATO airforces.
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