Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

[Shurjah]

The lowlife who supports Seesi Al-Azhar is crazy they are extremist in their reformism Islam is moderate with no way going too extreme in either way like the Khawarij or that of reform.

There is no difference Allah hates both

Okay. So, you are a better authority on the subject than the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University; Grand Mufti of Egypt; President of The Grand Council for Religious Affairs, Turkey; Grand Mufti of Syria; Grand Mufti of Jordan; Director of the Sunna and Sira Council; Vice President of the International Union of Muslim Scholars; Vice President of the Islamic Fiqh Academy; Deceased leader of the Naqshbandi Haqqani Sufi Order; Founder of the Al-Ahbash; Founding Leader of Minhaj-ul-Quran International, Chief Executive of Minhaj International University; Founding Leader of Tabah Foundation in Abu Dhabi, Member of Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought in Amman; and Founding Leader and the dean of Dar al-Mustafa in Tarim, Yemen?

All high ranked Sunni scholars.

And there is a clear difference between a munafiq and khafir. There wouldn't be two different words otherwise.

The Syrian Mufti is an ass he hates Islam and the rest are trash too they are nothing honestly anyone can say pig is haram not everyone can understand islam properly and like I said I grew up in Arab nations and every Imam says they are haram every Masjid even western Sheykhs say it.

[Rangila]

People were celebrating when Saif was released. People cant hate Gaddafi or his family that much.

We hate him those idiots who celebrated were idiots and traitors to our revolution Wallah, if they came here when I was in police I'd arrest them

The revolution? The one that installed three governments and caused Libya to be made into a playground for ISIS and other extremists?

Nice revolution.

[Shurjah]

He protected them from invasion after invasion he his party continued their resistance after their downfall and he died saying La Illa il Allah while Shia terrorists shouted slurrs at him and insulted him and Islam he was more Muslim then those living in California and Uk.

Yes. Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti, the man wrote a Quran with his blood, was more of a Muslim than me, Amin, Ailly, etc. Whatever you say, Shurjah.

i do not know if he did was haram with blood but his intention was nice

[Shurjah]

We hate him those idiots who celebrated were idiots and traitors to our revolution Wallah, if they came here when I was in police I'd arrest them

The revolution? The one that installed three governments and caused Libya to be made into a playground for ISIS and other extremists?

Nice revolution.

I was in my muncipality's police and I would arrest a Qaddafi supporter if I saw one we do not want that shit

[Rangila]

The revolution? The one that installed three governments and caused Libya to be made into a playground for ISIS and other extremists?

Nice revolution.

I was in my muncipality's police and I would arrest a Qaddafi supporter if I saw one we do not want that shit

Yet you would likely condemn Gaddafi for doing the same thing for LIFG members.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Okay. So, you are a better authority on the subject than the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University; Grand Mufti of Egypt; President of The Grand Council for Religious Affairs, Turkey; Grand Mufti of Syria; Grand Mufti of Jordan; Director of the Sunna and Sira Council; Vice President of the International Union of Muslim Scholars; Vice President of the Islamic Fiqh Academy; Deceased leader of the Naqshbandi Haqqani Sufi Order; Founder of the Al-Ahbash; Founding Leader of Minhaj-ul-Quran International, Chief Executive of Minhaj International University; Founding Leader of Tabah Foundation in Abu Dhabi, Member of Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought in Amman; and Founding Leader and the dean of Dar al-Mustafa in Tarim, Yemen?

All high ranked Sunni scholars.

And there is a clear difference between a munafiq and khafir. There wouldn't be two different words otherwise.

The Syrian Mufti is an ass he hates Islam and the rest are trash too they are nothing honestly anyone can say pig is haram not everyone can understand islam properly and like I said I grew up in Arab nations and every Imam says they are haram every Masjid even western Sheykhs say it.

There were Arabs in that list, too, mate And you do realize that you keep repeating the whole "every Imam" thing which is a pretty clear logical fallacy.

Yes. Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti, the man wrote a Quran with his blood, was more of a Muslim than me, Amin, Ailly, etc. Whatever you say, Shurjah.

i do not know if he did was haram with blood but his intention was nice

It's pretty clearly haram to write a Quran with blood, ffs. Doesn't matter what his intentions were. Even your own Salafi religious authorities in the KSA and UAE condemned what he did.

[Kubumba Tribe]

UIC, I consider some Shi'at to be Muslims, others as hypocritical Muslims, depends on the sect.
I'll say the rest in the IDT.

[Shurjah]

I was in my muncipality's police and I would arrest a Qaddafi supporter if I saw one we do not want that shit

Yet you would likely condemn Gaddafi for doing the same thing for LIFG members.

Qaddafi was shit we are free now and i like my freedom Qaddafi police was also shit they would rape women and ask for money when I joined I was given a Kalash and uniform we had to do hard work and assit civil services and direct traffic I helped my community after Qaddafi fucked it the only reason I quit was because I got a better job.

[Shurjah]

The Syrian Mufti is an ass he hates Islam and the rest are trash too they are nothing honestly anyone can say pig is haram not everyone can understand islam properly and like I said I grew up in Arab nations and every Imam says they are haram every Masjid even western Sheykhs say it.

There were Arabs in that list, too, mate And you do realize that you keep repeating the whole "every Imam" thing which is a pretty clear logical fallacy.

i do not know if he did was haram with blood but his intention was nice

It's pretty clearly haram to write a Quran with blood, ffs. Doesn't matter what his intentions were. Even your own Salafi religious authorities in the KSA and UAE condemned what he did.

KSA and UAE are trash and you can come visit Libya and ask people here yourself I will pick you up from the airport if you want you can stay at my house if you do not believe me.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

There were Arabs in that list, too, mate And you do realize that you keep repeating the whole "every Imam" thing which is a pretty clear logical fallacy.


It's pretty clearly haram to write a Quran with blood, ffs. Doesn't matter what his intentions were. Even your own Salafi religious authorities in the KSA and UAE condemned what he did.

KSA and UAE are trash and you can come visit Libya and ask people here yourself I will pick you up from the airport if you want you can stay at my house if you do not believe me.

Yeah. I'd rather not visit Libya. Not much there worth seeing, tbh. My brother did visit there in 2011, though. Dirty Shia

And what does it say about the fact that you are calling your only Salafi governments "trash"?

[Shurjah]

KSA and UAE are trash and you can come visit Libya and ask people here yourself I will pick you up from the airport if you want you can stay at my house if you do not believe me.

Yeah. I'd rather not visit Libya. Not much there worth seeing, tbh. My brother did visit there in 2011, though. Dirty Shia

And what does it say about the fact that you are calling your only Salafi governments "trash"?

My country is beautiful

KSA is arrogant and UAE is horrible I lived there in 2011 and saw drunks and people acting like idiots Burj Khalifa was cool though

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Yeah. I'd rather not visit Libya. Not much there worth seeing, tbh. My brother did visit there in 2011, though. Dirty Shia

And what does it say about the fact that you are calling your only Salafi governments "trash"?

My country is beautiful

Sure. Of course.

And you really support Saddam writing a Quran with blood?

[Shurjah]

My country is beautiful

Sure. Of course.

And you really support Saddam writing a Quran with blood?

I would not do it and it probably is haram but it does not make one not Muslim in that case every sinner would not be Muslim that is Khariji thinking

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Sure. Of course.

And you really support Saddam writing a Quran with blood?

I would not do it and it probably is haram but it does not make one not Muslim in that case every sinner would not be Muslim that is Khariji thinking

Did I say he wasn't Muslim? I said it was un-Islamic. I'm not takfiring him. You're the only one that's takfired anybody here. I'm simply saying he was a munafiq.

[Shurjah]

I would not do it and it probably is haram but it does not make one not Muslim in that case every sinner would not be Muslim that is Khariji thinking

Did I say he wasn't Muslim? I said it was un-Islamic. I'm not takfiring him. You're the only one that's takfired anybody here. I'm simply saying he was a munafiq.

Kuffar and Munafiqin are the same

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Did I say he wasn't Muslim? I said it was un-Islamic. I'm not takfiring him. You're the only one that's takfired anybody here. I'm simply saying he was a munafiq.

Kuffar and Munafiqin are the same

We've gone over this. They are not. A khafir is a non-Muslim who make no attempt to pretend to be Muslim. A munafiq is someone who says they are Muslim, but holds un-Muslim thoughts and behaves in ways unbefitting of a Muslim.

[Shurjah]

Kuffar and Munafiqin are the same

We've gone over this. They are not. A khafir is a non-Muslim who make no attempt to pretend to be Muslim. A munafiq is someone who says they are Muslim, but holds un-Muslim thoughts and behaves in ways unbefitting of a Muslim.

Says who Aga Khan? If that is the case I would not take it seriously

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

We've gone over this. They are not. A khafir is a non-Muslim who make no attempt to pretend to be Muslim. A munafiq is someone who says they are Muslim, but holds un-Muslim thoughts and behaves in ways unbefitting of a Muslim.

Says who Aga Khan? If that is the case I would not take it seriously

"Oh, my argument is failing, so I'm going to resort to personal attacks on your faith!"

No, bud. The Quran says so "When the hypocrites come to you, [O Muhammad], they say, "We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah ." And Allah knows that you are His Messenger, and Allah testifies that the hypocrites are liars."
إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُنَافِقُونَ قَالُوا نَشْهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُ وَاللَّهُ يَشْهَدُ إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ لَكَاذِبُونَ - 63:1

Why would two different words and situations be used if they are the same thing?

[Shurjah]

Says who Aga Khan? If that is the case I would not take it seriously

"Oh, my argument is failing, so I'm going to resort to personal attacks on your faith!"

No, bud. The Quran says so "When the hypocrites come to you, [O Muhammad], they say, "We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah ." And Allah knows that you are His Messenger, and Allah testifies that the hypocrites are liars."
إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُنَافِقُونَ قَالُوا نَشْهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُ وَاللَّهُ يَشْهَدُ إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ لَكَاذِبُونَ - 63:1

Why would two different words and situations be used if they are the same thing?

The word Munafiq means hypocrite but the contex it is used in Islam is not the same, I could call my neighbor a hypocrite for saying he is against smoking but still smokes in Arabic but in Islam I would say my neighbor is a munafiq because he worships Budda or something even though he says la ill il Allah.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

"Oh, my argument is failing, so I'm going to resort to personal attacks on your faith!"

No, bud. The Quran says so "When the hypocrites come to you, [O Muhammad], they say, "We testify that you are the Messenger of Allah ." And Allah knows that you are His Messenger, and Allah testifies that the hypocrites are liars."
إِذَا جَاءَكَ الْمُنَافِقُونَ قَالُوا نَشْهَدُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُ اللَّهِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ إِنَّكَ لَرَسُولُهُ وَاللَّهُ يَشْهَدُ إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ لَكَاذِبُونَ - 63:1

Why would two different words and situations be used if they are the same thing?

The word Munafiq means hypocrite but the contex it is used in Islam is not the same, I could call my neighbor a hypocrite for saying he is against smoking but still smokes in Arabic but in Islam I would say my neighbor is a munafiq because he worships Budda or something even though he says la ill il Allah.

Exactly. Now, if he didn't say pretend to be Muslim but worshiped another faith, then he would be a khafir.

[Shurjah]

The word Munafiq means hypocrite but the contex it is used in Islam is not the same, I could call my neighbor a hypocrite for saying he is against smoking but still smokes in Arabic but in Islam I would say my neighbor is a munafiq because he worships Budda or something even though he says la ill il Allah.

Exactly. Now, if he didn't say pretend to be Muslim but worshiped another faith, then he would be a khafir.

But worshipped Budda he would be a Kafir Munafiq whereas just smoking is not something that exlucdes you from Islam, this requires an understanding of Arabic which I do not think you have not because you are Persian or anything but because I do not think you ever learned Arabic or understand it the same.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Exactly. Now, if he didn't say pretend to be Muslim but worshiped another faith, then he would be a khafir.

But worshipped Budda he would be a Kafir Munafiq whereas just smoking is not something that exlucdes you from Islam, this requires an understanding of Arabic which I do not think you have not because you are Persian or anything but because I do not think you ever learned Arabic or understand it the same.

You know that is exactly why. You wouldn't have tried to clarify otherwise. You have a good evening now, Shurjah. May Allah remove the hate and hypocrisy from you.

[Shurjah]

But worshipped Budda he would be a Kafir Munafiq whereas just smoking is not something that exlucdes you from Islam, this requires an understanding of Arabic which I do not think you have not because you are Persian or anything but because I do not think you ever learned Arabic or understand it the same.

You know that is exactly why. You wouldn't have tried to clarify otherwise. You have a good evening now, Shurjah. May Allah remove the hate and hypocrisy from you.

It's late and I have work so farewell yes

[Nioya]

what mid east countries are the most messed up in ranks? In terms of law and policy.

[Alsheb]

>Links article about religious influences
>Brings race into it

Shiism is an Iranian product and Assad loves Iran raping him with militias and all this and the shrines have their architecture it is Iran's army fighting in Syria against Arab Muslims.

No mate. Iran is basically the reason Syria still exists. Your Wahhabi friends were raping the country long before the first Iranian ever set foot in Syria.