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What faction(s) do you support in the Syrian civil war? Check any that apply

Syrian government/SAA
98
18%
Syrian Democratic Forces/YPG
124
22%
Tahrir al-Sham (Nusra)
10
2%
Ahrar al-Sham/other opposition
14
3%
Turkey/TFSA
20
4%
ISIS
17
3%
Hezbollah
40
7%
Russia
55
10%
United States/NATO/Israel
130
23%
Iran
49
9%
 
Total votes : 557

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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:54 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:>Shiism is an Iranian product
>Named after the Arab son-in-law of the Prophet (pbuh)


Like hell they should have helped Saddam and Iraqi army. Why would they support an unjust Iraqi invasion of Iran?

Because that is their country do you know the laws about obeying your leaders? Saddam Hussein At Tikritee was a Muslim ruler who ruled in an Islamic matter he sought to unite our people and he sought to continue our legacy of Qadisiyah and unite our Arab brothers in Ahwaz while taking oil to benefit the economy he never did anything to make him unmuslim or to bring disgrace to Iraqis he even brought peace to Kurdistan by making the Kurdistan Regional Government by committing genocide. Saddam was not a dog or slave like Abadi or Maliki.

Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:56 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Because that is their country do you know the laws about obeying your leaders? Saddam Hussein At Tikritee was a Muslim ruler who ruled in an Islamic matter he sought to unite our people and he sought to continue our legacy of Qadisiyah and unite our Arab brothers in Ahwaz while taking oil to benefit the economy he never did anything to make him unmuslim or to bring disgrace to Iraqis he even brought peace to Kurdistan by making the Kurdistan Regional Government by committing genocide. Saddam was not a dog or slave like Abadi or Maliki.

Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.

He never left Islam in his leadership he never renounced Allah or our most beloved Messenger Sal Allahu alayhi wa Saleem
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:57 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:>Shiism is an Iranian product
>Named after the Arab son-in-law of the Prophet (pbuh)


Like hell they should have helped Saddam and Iraqi army. Why would they support an unjust Iraqi invasion of Iran?

Because that is their country do you know the laws about obeying your leaders? Saddam Hussein At Tikritee was a Muslim ruler who ruled in an Islamic matter he sought to unite our people and he sought to continue our legacy of Qadisiyah and unite our Arab brothers in Ahwaz while taking oil to benefit the economy he never did anything to make him unmuslim or to bring disgrace to Iraqis he even brought peace to Kurdistan by making the Kurdistan Regional Government. Saddam was not a dog or slave like Abadi or Maliki.

Saddam was from a legitimate Islamic leader. Complete bullshit. He was literally a member of the secular Baathist political party, founded by a Christian.

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Tfw 12 of the signers of the Amman Message are Shia and the 14 Sunni signers agreed that they were Muslim.

Amman message is a joke no one takes it seriously ask anyone here they will either ask what that is or laugh

200 Islamic scholars, including the Grand Muftis of Oman, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan would disagree with you.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:00 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.

He never left Islam in his leadership he never renounced Allah or our most beloved Messenger Sal Allahu alayhi wa Saleem

He was a psychopath munafiq.
I can't speak with you as long as you justify the persecution of Kurds, make stereotypes about them, and have an Arab supremacist mentality. If you get rid of those insha-Allah, then we can talk again.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:00 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.

He never left Islam in his leadership he never renounced Allah or our most beloved Messenger Sal Allahu alayhi wa Saleem

So, the Dawa killings in 1974, 1990s Marsh Arabs devastation, and Dujail Massacre in 1982, all of fellow Muslims, were not un-Islamic? Oh, wait. They were Shia, so that obviously doesn't count :D
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:01 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Because that is their country do you know the laws about obeying your leaders? Saddam Hussein At Tikritee was a Muslim ruler who ruled in an Islamic matter he sought to unite our people and he sought to continue our legacy of Qadisiyah and unite our Arab brothers in Ahwaz while taking oil to benefit the economy he never did anything to make him unmuslim or to bring disgrace to Iraqis he even brought peace to Kurdistan by making the Kurdistan Regional Government. Saddam was not a dog or slave like Abadi or Maliki.

Saddam was from a legitimate Islamic leader. Complete bullshit. He was literally a member of the secular Baathist political party, founded by a Christian.

Shurjah wrote:Amman message is a joke no one takes it seriously ask anyone here they will either ask what that is or laugh

200 Islamic scholars, including the Grand Muftis of Oman, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan would disagree with you.

200 compared to thousands of Muslims and Classical scholars like Imam Hanafee Malik and Shafee and Hanbal most scholars disagree and every Imam I know.

Even the Umayyad Khilafah had Christian advisors Aflaq converted to Islam because of Saddam he may have been in a secular party but his leadership was fine and Islamic he taught Islam he did not prohibit prayers or obstruct our religion.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:02 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Shurjah wrote:He never left Islam in his leadership he never renounced Allah or our most beloved Messenger Sal Allahu alayhi wa Saleem

He was a psychopath munafiq.
I can't speak with you as long as you justify the persecution of Kurds, make stereotypes about them, and have an Arab supremacist mentality. If you get rid of those insha-Allah, then we can talk again.

You're being an extremist with Takfeer fear Allah
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:04 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:He never left Islam in his leadership he never renounced Allah or our most beloved Messenger Sal Allahu alayhi wa Saleem

So, the Dawa killings in 1974, 1990s Marsh Arabs devastation, and Dujail Massacre in 1982, all of fellow Muslims, were not un-Islamic? Oh, wait. They were Shia, so that obviously doesn't count :D

No they were not, how about Solagh the Iraqi minister who ran Abu Ghraib or those Shaabi militias led by Sadr and the Iranian military this is okay? Saddam did nothing compared to what Iraq's new government has done the Dawa party is a terrorist group.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:05 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Saddam was from a legitimate Islamic leader. Complete bullshit. He was literally a member of the secular Baathist political party, founded by a Christian.


200 Islamic scholars, including the Grand Muftis of Oman, Egypt, Syria, and Jordan would disagree with you.

200 compared to thousands of Muslims and Classical scholars like Imam Hanafee Malik and Shafee and Hanbal most scholars disagree and every Imam I know.

Even the Umayyad Khilafah had Christian advisors Aflaq converted to Islam because of Saddam he may have been in a secular party but his leadership was fine and Islamic he taught Islam he did not prohibit prayers or obstruct our religion.

I mean, Amin do you consider Shia to be Muslims? I can guarantee that if I ask basically any other Muslim regular in NSG whether Shia are Muslims, they would say we are.

And there is very little actual evidence that Aflaq became Muslim. Even his own family disputes that.

Shurjah wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:He was a psychopath munafiq.
I can't speak with you as long as you justify the persecution of Kurds, make stereotypes about them, and have an Arab supremacist mentality. If you get rid of those insha-Allah, then we can talk again.

You're being an extremist with Takfeer fear Allah

Says the one takfiring all Shia... He literally didn't takfir Saddam. He called him a munafiq, not a khafir.

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, the Dawa killings in 1974, 1990s Marsh Arabs devastation, and Dujail Massacre in 1982, all of fellow Muslims, were not un-Islamic? Oh, wait. They were Shia, so that obviously doesn't count :D

No they were not, how about Solagh the Iraqi minister who ran Abu Ghraib or those Shaabi militias led by Sadr and the Iranian military this is okay? Saddam did nothing compared to what Iraq's new government has done the Dawa party is a terrorist group.

The deflection is strong with this one, huh?
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Postby Rangila » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:08 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Because that is their country do you know the laws about obeying your leaders? Saddam Hussein At Tikritee was a Muslim ruler who ruled in an Islamic matter he sought to unite our people and he sought to continue our legacy of Qadisiyah and unite our Arab brothers in Ahwaz while taking oil to benefit the economy he never did anything to make him unmuslim or to bring disgrace to Iraqis he even brought peace to Kurdistan by making the Kurdistan Regional Government by committing genocide. Saddam was not a dog or slave like Abadi or Maliki.

Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.

And Saddam also permitted the return to faith campaign, promoting Islamism.

One of the main reasons i support the Syrian-faction of the Ba'ath Party.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:09 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:200 compared to thousands of Muslims and Classical scholars like Imam Hanafee Malik and Shafee and Hanbal most scholars disagree and every Imam I know.

Even the Umayyad Khilafah had Christian advisors Aflaq converted to Islam because of Saddam he may have been in a secular party but his leadership was fine and Islamic he taught Islam he did not prohibit prayers or obstruct our religion.

I mean, Amin do you consider Shia to be Muslims? I can guarantee that if I ask basically any other Muslim regular in NSG whether Shia are Muslims, they would say we are.

And there is very little actual evidence that Aflaq became Muslims. Even his own family disputes that.

Shurjah wrote:You're being an extremist with Takfeer fear Allah

Says the one takfiring all Shia... He literally didn't takfir Saddam. He called him a munafiq, not a khafir.

Shurjah wrote:No they were not, how about Solagh the Iraqi minister who ran Abu Ghraib or those Shaabi militias led by Sadr and the Iranian military this is okay? Saddam did nothing compared to what Iraq's new government has done the Dawa party is a terrorist group.

The deflection is strong with this one, huh?

Normal Muslims acknowledge the lack of Islam in Shias

Munafiq and *KAFIR* (Khaa is not used in this word) are equal in lack of faith and are used in the same way normally it also means one who was Muslim but left and became a Kafir so it is the same.

Solagh genocided Arab Muslims
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:09 pm

Rangila wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.

And Saddam also permitted the return to faith campaign, promoting Islamism.

One of the main reasons i support the Syrian-faction of the Ba'ath Party.

The Iranian Faction of the Mout Party
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:10 pm

Rangila wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:Fixed.
Also, Saddam was a part of of the Ba'ath party. which is secular.

And Saddam also permitted the return to faith campaign, promoting Islamism.

One of the main reasons i support the Syrian-faction of the Ba'ath Party.

Saddam played the Iraqi Sunnis like a fiddle.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:11 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Rangila wrote:And Saddam also permitted the return to faith campaign, promoting Islamism.

One of the main reasons i support the Syrian-faction of the Ba'ath Party.

Saddam played the Iraqi Sunnis like a fiddle.

No he was their gaurdian
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:12 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I mean, Amin do you consider Shia to be Muslims? I can guarantee that if I ask basically any other Muslim regular in NSG whether Shia are Muslims, they would say we are.

And there is very little actual evidence that Aflaq became Muslims. Even his own family disputes that.


Says the one takfiring all Shia... He literally didn't takfir Saddam. He called him a munafiq, not a khafir.


The deflection is strong with this one, huh?

Normal Muslims acknowledge the lack of Islam in Shias

Munafiq and *KAFIR* (Khaa is not used in this word) are equal in lack of faith and are used in the same way normally it also means one who was Muslim but left and became a Kafir so it is the same.

Solagh genocided Arab Muslims

Normal Muslims? XD Because you're more of an authority on who are "normal Muslims" than the Grand Mufti of Egypt?

No, it is not. There is a very distinct difference between a munafiq and a khafir. (And don't try and play linguistics. It's a transliteration.)

Still deflection, mate.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:13 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Saddam played the Iraqi Sunnis like a fiddle.

No he was their gaurdian

Yeah. Okay, Shurjah.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:15 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Normal Muslims acknowledge the lack of Islam in Shias

Munafiq and *KAFIR* (Khaa is not used in this word) are equal in lack of faith and are used in the same way normally it also means one who was Muslim but left and became a Kafir so it is the same.

Solagh genocided Arab Muslims

Normal Muslims? XD Because you're more of an authority on who are "normal Muslims" than the Grand Mufti of Egypt?

No, it is not. There is a very distinct difference between a munafiq and a khafir. (And don't try and play linguistics. It's a transliteration.)

Still deflection, mate.

The lowlife who supports Seesi Al-Azhar is crazy they are extremist in their reformism Islam is moderate with no way going too extreme in either way like the Khawarij or that of reform.

There is no difference Allah hates both
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Postby Rangila » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:17 pm

Saddam and Gaddafi are the two main Arab leaders i am neutral on.

Saddam because he was an islamist, but he kept the nation stable and removed the Kurdish threat

And Gaddafi because he financed terrorist organisations, though he kept Libya way more stable than it is now.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:17 pm

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:
Shurjah wrote:No he was their gaurdian

Yeah. Okay, Shurjah.

He protected them from invasion after invasion he his party continued their resistance after their downfall and he died saying La Illa il Allah while Shia terrorists shouted slurrs at him and insulted him and Islam he was more Muslim then those living in California and Uk.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:17 pm

Rangila wrote:Saddam and Gaddafi are the two main Arab leaders i am neutral on.

Saddam because he was an islamist, but he kept the nation stable and removed the Kurdish threat

And Gaddafi because he financed terrorist organisations, though he kept Libya way more stable than it is now.

Don't insult me with Qaddafi we all hate him here and do not want him back
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Postby Rangila » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:19 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Rangila wrote:Saddam and Gaddafi are the two main Arab leaders i am neutral on.

Saddam because he was an islamist, but he kept the nation stable and removed the Kurdish threat

And Gaddafi because he financed terrorist organisations, though he kept Libya way more stable than it is now.

Don't insult me with Qaddafi we all hate him here and do not want him back

People were celebrating when Saif was released. People cant hate Gaddafi or his family that much.
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:19 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Normal Muslims? XD Because you're more of an authority on who are "normal Muslims" than the Grand Mufti of Egypt?

No, it is not. There is a very distinct difference between a munafiq and a khafir. (And don't try and play linguistics. It's a transliteration.)

Still deflection, mate.

The lowlife who supports Seesi Al-Azhar is crazy they are extremist in their reformism Islam is moderate with no way going too extreme in either way like the Khawarij or that of reform.

There is no difference Allah hates both

Okay. So, you are a better authority on the subject than the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University; Grand Mufti of Egypt; President of The Grand Council for Religious Affairs, Turkey; Grand Mufti of Syria; Grand Mufti of Jordan; Director of the Sunna and Sira Council; Vice President of the International Union of Muslim Scholars; Vice President of the Islamic Fiqh Academy; Deceased leader of the Naqshbandi Haqqani Sufi Order; Founder of the Al-Ahbash; Founding Leader of Minhaj-ul-Quran International, Chief Executive of Minhaj International University; Founding Leader of Tabah Foundation in Abu Dhabi, Member of Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought in Amman; and Founding Leader and the dean of Dar al-Mustafa in Tarim, Yemen?

All high ranked Sunni scholars.

And there is a clear difference between a munafiq and khafir. There wouldn't be two different words otherwise.
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Postby Shurjah » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:20 pm

Rangila wrote:
Shurjah wrote:Don't insult me with Qaddafi we all hate him here and do not want him back

People were celebrating when Saif was released. People cant hate Gaddafi or his family that much.

We hate him those idiots who celebrated were idiots and traitors to our revolution Wallah, if they came here when I was in police I'd arrest them
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Postby United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:21 pm

Shurjah wrote:
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Yeah. Okay, Shurjah.

He protected them from invasion after invasion he his party continued their resistance after their downfall and he died saying La Illa il Allah while Shia terrorists shouted slurrs at him and insulted him and Islam he was more Muslim then those living in California and Uk.

Yes. Saddam Hussein Abd al-Majid al-Tikriti, the man wrote a Quran with his blood, was more of a Muslim than me, Amin, Ailly, etc. Whatever you say, Shurjah.
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Postby Kubumba Tribe » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:22 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Kubumba Tribe wrote:He was a psychopath munafiq.
I can't speak with you as long as you justify the persecution of Kurds, make stereotypes about them, and have an Arab supremacist mentality. If you get rid of those insha-Allah, then we can talk again.

You're being an extremist with Takfeer fear Allah

And you're being prejudiced with racism. Fear Allah (SWT). And I didn't make takfir, I called him a hypocrite.
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Farnhamia wrote:A word of advice from your friendly neighborhood Mod, be careful how you use "kafir." It's derogatory usage by some people can get you in trouble unless you are very careful in setting the context for it's use.

This means we can use the word, just not in a bad way. So don't punish anyone who uses kafir.

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