Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

by **Aulus Maximus** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:38 am

Pilarcraft wrote:Ok, but in all seriousness, the Syrian Civil war even happening is Assad's fault. You don't fucking bring out Tanks when people protest. They won't go back home. They'll push back, and they'll push back hard. At this point, he can't even do anything to stop it, too many factions are at play, and at this point he's not even a player in the game. He's given up his own account to Iran/Russia, and he's just watching the chaos unfold. Of course, the war could have been stopped at any time this last, what, four years had the sides (ISIS excluded) came to parlay, but now? now it's not going to. It's beneficial for all international parties involved if the war goes on and fucking on.

One could argue that the demonstrations were provocative for the regime. The regime reacted in a manner that was counterproductive to what they wanted.

I don't blame Assad for that, but the general Syrian government.

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:29 pm

https://twitter.com/liam_o_hare/status/979764853836537856?s=21

Barbaric

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:43 pm

MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/liam_o_hare/status/979764853836537856?s=21

Barbaric

Fuck Israel. That state is a cesspit of ethnic cleansing and ethno/religious supremacism. Its fucking disgusting that they use the victims of the Holocaust to prop up this apartheid regime.

by **Western-Ukraine** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:45 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/liam_o_hare/status/979764853836537856?s=21

Barbaric

Fuck Israel. That state is a cesspit of ethnic cleansing and ethno/religious supremacism. Its fucking disgusting that they use the victims of the Holocaust to prop up this apartheid regime.

Really now, it's a video on Twitter. There's nothing to verify the circumstances.

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:47 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Fuck Israel. That state is a cesspit of ethnic cleansing and ethno/religious supremacism. Its fucking disgusting that they use the victims of the Holocaust to prop up this apartheid regime.

Really now, it's a video on Twitter. There's nothing to verify the circumstances.

"must be crisis actors!!!!"

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:48 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Fuck Israel. That state is a cesspit of ethnic cleansing and ethno/religious supremacism. Its fucking disgusting that they use the victims of the Holocaust to prop up this apartheid regime.

Really now, it's a video on Twitter. There's nothing to verify the circumstances.

They've pulled this garbage before. This is nothing new to them. They are monsters. The IDF are jackbooted thugs and Netanyahu and Co are little better than the drug lords of South Africa or the warlords in Somalia.

by **Western-Ukraine** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:53 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:Really now, it's a video on Twitter. There's nothing to verify the circumstances.

They've pulled this garbage before. This is nothing new to them. They are monsters. The IDF are jackbooted thugs and Netanyahu and Co are little better than the drug lords of South Africa or the warlords in Somalia.

A hypothetical past example doesn't in any way imply anything here. I wouldn't be so quick to rush to utilizing circumstantial evidence.

MERIZoC wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:Really now, it's a video on Twitter. There's nothing to verify the circumstances.

"must be crisis actors!!!!"

Maybe? Or it could be in whole different circumstances, simply.

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:54 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
They've pulled this garbage before. This is nothing new to them. They are monsters. The IDF are jackbooted thugs and Netanyahu and Co are little better than the drug lords of South Africa or the warlords in Somalia.

A hypothetical past example doesn't in any way imply anything here. I wouldn't be so quick to rush to utilizing circumstantial evidence.
MERIZoC wrote:"must be crisis actors!!!!"

Maybe? Or it could be in whole different circumstances, simply.

Israel could literally shit in your mothers mouth and you'd still try and justify it.

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:55 pm

Western-Ukraine wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
They've pulled this garbage before. This is nothing new to them. They are monsters. The IDF are jackbooted thugs and Netanyahu and Co are little better than the drug lords of South Africa or the warlords in Somalia.

A hypothetical past example doesn't in any way imply anything here. I wouldn't be so quick to rush to utilizing circumstantial evidence.
MERIZoC wrote:"must be crisis actors!!!!"

Maybe? Or it could be in whole different circumstances, simply.

Hmmmm who is more believable? A verified journalist? Or a ukraine fanboy online? Tricky questions...

by **Western-Ukraine** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:58 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:A hypothetical past example doesn't in any way imply anything here. I wouldn't be so quick to rush to utilizing circumstantial evidence.

Maybe? Or it could be in whole different circumstances, simply.

Hmmmm who is more believable? A verified journalist? Or a ukraine fanboy online? Tricky questions...

Not that I have claimed anything. Journalists aren't objectively right in every case and there's a lot to doubt for that video. Where does it say "Israel" in that video, with reasonable certainty?

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:59 pm

https://twitter.com/ShehabAgencyEn/status/979644902026940417

by **Shofercia** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:02 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Poland-Galicia-Silesia wrote:Ewww, hopefully France just uses their troops as a shield against Turkey, not as a way to meddle with Assad.

"Meddle with Assad"

I see you like people who gas their own citizens.

Of course not, but I'd rather have someone who gasses 1% of the population, over someone who murders 90% of it, so I have to ask - what's the alternative? Do you think that Iraq was better off under Saddam or ISIS?

by **MERIZoC** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:10 pm

https://twitter.com/nasseratta5/status/979841834578046977

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:11 pm

MERIZoC wrote:https://twitter.com/nasseratta5/status/979841834578046977

Despicable. There can be no Two State Solution unless Israel manages to subdue the brutal, monstrous forces that currently run it.

by **Torrocca** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:32 pm

Man, after seeing those videos, fuck the Israeli government and military and all its shitty practices.

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:39 pm

Torrocca wrote:Man, after seeing those videos, fuck the Israeli government and military and all its shitty practices.

Shit those ones aren't even bad. If I'm remembering right from a few years back the Israelis blew up some kids in Gaza who were playing soccer because why not?

by **Northern Davincia** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:40 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Western-Ukraine wrote:A hypothetical past example doesn't in any way imply anything here. I wouldn't be so quick to rush to utilizing circumstantial evidence.

Maybe? Or it could be in whole different circumstances, simply.

Israel could literally shit in your mothers mouth and you'd still try and justify it.

Your disdain for civilization is regrettable.

by **Torrocca** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:42 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Torrocca wrote:Man, after seeing those videos, fuck the Israeli government and military and all its shitty practices.

Shit those ones aren't even bad. If I'm remembering right from a few years back the Israelis blew up some kids in Gaza who were playing soccer because why not?

Jesus, can't even imagine that kinda shit. And they act like they're victims because their ancestors suffered through the Holocaust? I mean, seriously, fuck that disdainful shit. I can't believe I used to actually think Israel as a political entity was a good thing.

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:49 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
Israel could literally shit in your mothers mouth and you'd still try and justify it.

Your disdain for civilization is regrettable.

>Israel
>Civilization

By equating these two you are showing that you are the one that hates civilization. Israel is merely a school yard bully. Nothing laudable about that.

by **Valrifell** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:50 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Shit those ones aren't even bad. If I'm remembering right from a few years back the Israelis blew up some kids in Gaza who were playing soccer because why not?

Jesus, can't even imagine that kinda shit. And they act like they're victims because their ancestors suffered through the Holocaust? I mean, seriously, fuck that disdainful shit. I can't believe I used to actually think Israel as a political entity was a good thing.

Not saying one thing one way or the other, but you say ancestors as if the Holocaust wasn't only ~70 years ago and there still exist several survivors.

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:51 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Jesus, can't even imagine that kinda shit. And they act like they're victims because their ancestors suffered through the Holocaust? I mean, seriously, fuck that disdainful shit. I can't believe I used to actually think Israel as a political entity was a good thing.

Not saying one thing one way or the other, but you say ancestors as if the Holocaust wasn't only ~70 years ago and there still exist several survivors.

Your ethnicity having previously been the victim of a genocide doesn't justify imposing an apartheid state on Arabs.

by **Torrocca** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
Jesus, can't even imagine that kinda shit. And they act like they're victims because their ancestors suffered through the Holocaust? I mean, seriously, fuck that disdainful shit. I can't believe I used to actually think Israel as a political entity was a good thing.

Not saying one thing one way or the other, but you say ancestors as if the Holocaust wasn't only ~70 years ago and there still exist several survivors.

AFAIK, it's not the generations that survived the Holocaust that's currently running the shitshow of Israel.

Could be entirely wrong in that regard, though. Still doesn't make the situation any better.

by **Kubumba Tribe** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:05 pm

Mujahidah wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:Your disdain for civilization is regrettable.

>Israel
>Civilization

By equating these two you are showing that you are the one that hates civilization. Israel is merely a school yard bully. Nothing laudable about that.

"Schoolyard bully" is an understatement.

by **Rio Cana** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:05 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:Just give Gaza to Egypt and West Bank to Jordanians. And stop occupying Golan heights.

This is best solution, but the one everyone hates and no one will agree on

Seems that you are not watching that very popular Brazilian made series, its really good, "the promised land". The land was originally populated by Jewish people centuries ago. Most left because of the drought to Egypt. While in Egypt they were not allowed to leave for 400 years. When they went back they found there land full of Caananites. So they drove the Caananites out. Then came other invaders and so on. Until modern times when the jewish people went back still claiming there ancient right to the land. Its 2018 and they are doing what there priors did thousands of years ago which is to clear the area of what they consider foreign elements.

In reality, I think the Palestinians will only be able to get Gaza and not the West bank. They Isrealis will not give up the West bank which was historically controlled by the ancient people of Israel. Gaza is another story which means the Palestinians will most likely have to settle for Gaza , the Gaza Republic.

by **Mujahidah** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:06 pm

Kubumba Tribe wrote:
Mujahidah wrote:
>Israel
>Civilization

By equating these two you are showing that you are the one that hates civilization. Israel is merely a school yard bully. Nothing laudable about that.

"Schoolyard bully" is an understatement.

"School Shooter" would be more accurate with the school analogy

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