Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

[Shofercia]

Since we'll have to come back to topic eventually, what's your opinion on Nixon's Middle East Policy?

I liked that he wasn't bullied by Israel or American Jews. And that his support wasn't unconditional. I also think it was wise to oppose any unilateral action by the USSR to send in forces, which would have changed the conflict from proxy to possibly direct. And re-establishing relations with Egypt was definitely a plus. Rarely does ignoring somebody you dislike solve anything.

Ignoring those we don't like can be effective, just not on a country level, especially not with a country as valuable as Egypt.

[Sovaal]

Ok, I An agree with the core of your message, but what the fuck o ovama and fucking Jim Corw have o do with each other? Obama was still a child/teen during the civil rights movement last I checked

Sovaal buddy, proof read

I swear I’m not drunk, or Irish. Well basically the same thing, but still.

[The Lone Alliance]

Only 10% of West Libyan voters want the Gaddafis back.

Maybe it’s time to accept we did the right thing?

Isn't West Libya the part of Libya pretty much under control of the pro-Islamist side of the government?

[Mike the Progressive]

I liked that he wasn't bullied by Israel or American Jews. And that his support wasn't unconditional. I also think it was wise to oppose any unilateral action by the USSR to send in forces, which would have changed the conflict from proxy to possibly direct. And re-establishing relations with Egypt was definitely a plus. Rarely does ignoring somebody you dislike solve anything.

Ignoring those we don't like can be effective, just not on a country level, especially not with a country as valuable as Egypt.

Exactly. Its why I talk with you. XD

[Improved werpland]

In fact western Libya was where all the Gaddafi loyalists were at, so the opposite would be true. It seems likely they'd show even less support if the rest of the country were factored in the poll.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but people move during Civil Wars. According to one of the maps,

the West is actually very anti-Ghadaffi. That's if we take the current population into account. In 1991, there were 194,190 Serbs living in Kosovo. Today it's less than 26,000. As a result, pro-Serb parties are probably not going to get the same support they once had in Kosovo. Especially if they have trade-able organs.

I’m not sure you know this but this is actually a more relevant map.

As we can see the area around Tripoli and Benghazi are actually loyal to BSh and Csa whereas the rest of the country are acolytes of BWh.

[Shofercia]

Ignoring those we don't like can be effective, just not on a country level, especially not with a country as valuable as Egypt.

Exactly. Its why I talk with you. XD

Touche' Nixon

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but people move during Civil Wars. According to one of the maps,

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the West is actually very anti-Ghadaffi. That's if we take the current population into account. In 1991, there were 194,190 Serbs living in Kosovo. Today it's less than 26,000. As a result, pro-Serb parties are probably not going to get the same support they once had in Kosovo. Especially if they have trade-able organs.

I’m not sure you know this but this is actually a more relevant map.

As we can see the area around Tripoli and Benghazi are actually loyal to BSh and Csa whereas the rest of the country are acolytes of BWh.

From your link: http://earthwise.bgs.ac.uk/images/f/f1/ ... eZones.png

Libya_ClimateZones.png

Climate zones...

[MERIZoC]

https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/979440496694177793

Big news.

[Shofercia]

https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/979440496694177793

Big news.

Who is the Northern Federation of Syria, is that SDF? Not all of us know all of the Syrian Factions

[Al-Ismailiyya]

https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/979440496694177793

Big news.

Who is the Northern Federation of Syria, is that SDF? Not all of us know all of the Syrian Factions

Rojava. It's officially the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.

[Shofercia]

Who is the Northern Federation of Syria, is that SDF? Not all of us know all of the Syrian Factions

Rojava. It's officially the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.

So France is setting up shop in Syrian Kurdistan?

[MERIZoC]

https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/979440496694177793

Big news.

Who is the Northern Federation of Syria, is that SDF? Not all of us know all of the Syrian Factions

Bruh.....

[MERIZoC]

Rojava. It's officially the Democratic Federation of Northern Syria.

So France is setting up shop in Syrian Kurdistan?

Yes, as the tweet says they will be sending troops to Manbij

[Poland-Galicia-Silesia]

Ewww, hopefully France just uses their troops as a shield against Turkey, not as a way to meddle with Assad.

[Mujahidah]

Ewww, hopefully France just uses their troops as a shield against Turkey, not as a way to meddle with Assad.

"Meddle with Assad"

I see you like people who gas their own citizens.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Ewww, hopefully France just uses their troops as a shield against Turkey, not as a way to meddle with Assad.

"Meddle with Assad"

I see you like people who gas their own citizens.

"If you don't want to destabilize a country, extending its civil war for several more years, you like gassing your own people."
Oh come on now.

[Zyr and Pony]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43593594

Israel killed a Palestinian man apparently picking parsley (or doing something suspicious, according to the Israelis), in the lead-up to a planned two week protest where Palestinians are planning on camping out near the Israeli border. A protest Israel is less than pleased about, especially considering the US is moving our embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv against the wishes of the international community in May, something that could rile up the Palestinians further.

[Albrenia]

"Meddle with Assad"

I see you like people who gas their own citizens.

"If you don't want to destabilize a country, extending its civil war for several more years, you like gassing your own people."
Oh come on now.

Assad seems to be scum, but I'm not a fan of civil war either. I don't see good things in Syria's future no matter what happens, to be honest.

[Costa Fierro]

So France is setting up shop in Syrian Kurdistan?

Yes, as the tweet says they will be sending troops to Manbij

Petain is now rolling in his grave.

[Poland-Galicia-Silesia]

"Meddle with Assad"

I see you like people who gas their own citizens.

It's detestable sure, but keeping a dying civil war alive is hardly any better tbh.

[Aulus Maximus]

https://twitter.com/CivilWarMap/status/979440496694177793

Big news.

I wonder what the Turks will do. I don't fully support the YPG but I prefer them over the Turks.

[Baltenstein]

Yes, as the tweet says they will be sending troops to Manbij

Petain is now rolling in his grave.

On the other hand, Napoleon, who only managed to reach Acre, will rejoice.

[MERIZoC]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43593594

Israel killed a Palestinian man apparently picking parsley (or doing something suspicious, according to the Israelis), in the lead-up to a planned two week protest where Palestinians are planning on camping out near the Israeli border. A protest Israel is less than pleased about, especially considering the US is moving our embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv against the wishes of the international community in May, something that could rile up the Palestinians further.

Fuck that headline. There were no clashes. This is just murder.

[Socialist Czechia]

Just give Gaza to Egypt and West Bank to Jordanians. And stop occupying Golan heights.

This is best solution, but the one everyone hates and no one will agree on

[Mujahidah]

Just give Gaza to Egypt and West Bank to Jordanians. And stop occupying Golan heights.

This is best solution, but the one everyone hates and no one will agree on

There is the question of what becomes of Al-Quds (Jerusalem, for people who are unawares).

[Pilarcraft]

Ok, but in all seriousness, the Syrian Civil war even happening is Assad's fault. You don't fucking bring out Tanks when people protest. They won't go back home. They'll push back, and they'll push back hard. At this point, he can't even do anything to stop it, too many factions are at play, and at this point he's not even a player in the game. He's given up his own account to Iran/Russia, and he's just watching the chaos unfold. Of course, the war could have been stopped at any time this last, what, four years had the sides (ISIS excluded) came to parlay, but now? now it's not going to. It's beneficial for all international parties involved if the war goes on and fucking on.