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Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:You want to source any of that? I mean, you're right that the Baath Party is part of the insurgency, but I don't exactly see how that helps your side at all.

Source for what? Tribal fighters a majority of the fighters in Iraq

Are you referring to the PMU? The one supported by the Iraqi government and is composed of Shia and Sunni? A quarter of whom are Sunnis?

Pilarcraft wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:You want to source any of that? I mean, you're right that the Baath Party is part of the insurgency, but I don't exactly see how that helps your side at all.

he actually supports the Baath.
I mean, not surprising. they both use Islam as a buzzword for arab Supremacy and hate Jews, Iranians, and virtually everyone who's not an arab.

I love how they have moved on from the international Jewish conspiracy to the Iranians are behind literally everything. Big and bad Iranians.

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:Source for what? Tribal fighters a majority of the fighters in Iraq

Are you referring to the PMU? The one supported by the Iraqi government and is composed of Shia and Sunni? A quarter of whom are Sunnis?

No a majority of the "Daesh" members in Iraq are from tribes in Anbar, Salahuddin, and Ninawa in fact a lot of them were in the Sahwat movements this how Dowlah took over most of Iraq was with allying with Tribes and uniting former resistance groups like the Baath Party or other Sunni groups like Islamic Army of Iraq

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Are you referring to the PMU? The one supported by the Iraqi government and is composed of Shia and Sunni? A quarter of whom are Sunnis?

No a majority of the "Daesh" members in Iraq are from tribes in Anbar, Salahuddin, and Ninawa in fact a lot of them were in the Sahwat movements this how Dowlah took over most of Iraq was with allying with Tribes and uniting former resistance groups like the Baath Party or other Sunni groups like Islamic Army of Iraq

So, let me get this straight, you are actually supporting the tribal fighters who fight for Daesh? Or what?

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:No a majority of the "Daesh" members in Iraq are from tribes in Anbar, Salahuddin, and Ninawa in fact a lot of them were in the Sahwat movements this how Dowlah took over most of Iraq was with allying with Tribes and uniting former resistance groups like the Baath Party or other Sunni groups like Islamic Army of Iraq

So, let me get this straight, you are actually supporting the tribal fighters who fight for Daesh? Or what?

Against Muqtada Al Sadr, Badr Organization, Hezbillah and Iran yes I also applaud Peschmergah for their resistance in Kirkuk and anyone else who will fight Iran
https://www.memri.org/reports/gulf-writ ... ill-enable
http://www.ibtimes.com/iraqi-sunni-shei ... up-1952644

It is obvious no one cares about them an Dowlah is their only option and they are working with the limited resources they have for their families

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, let me get this straight, you are actually supporting the tribal fighters who fight for Daesh? Or what?

Against Muqtada Al Sadr, Badr Organization, Hezbillah and Iran yes I also applaud Peschmergah for their resistance in Kirkuk and anyone else who will fight Iran
https://www.memri.org/reports/gulf-writ ... ill-enable
http://www.ibtimes.com/iraqi-sunni-shei ... up-1952644

It is obvious no one cares about them an Dowlah is their only option and they are working with the limited resources they have for their families

using Memri as a legit source.

Pilarcraft wrote:

Shurjah wrote:Against Muqtada Al Sadr, Badr Organization, Hezbillah and Iran yes I also applaud Peschmergah for their resistance in Kirkuk and anyone else who will fight Iran
https://www.memri.org/reports/gulf-writ ... ill-enable
http://www.ibtimes.com/iraqi-sunni-shei ... up-1952644

It is obvious no one cares about them an Dowlah is their only option and they are working with the limited resources they have for their families

using Memri as a legit source.

I do not like Memri and they skew their translations but this artcile is accurate

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, let me get this straight, you are actually supporting the tribal fighters who fight for Daesh? Or what?

Against Muqtada Al Sadr, Badr Organization, Hezbillah and Iran yes I also applaud Peschmergah for their resistance in Kirkuk and anyone else who will fight Iran
https://www.memri.org/reports/gulf-writ ... ill-enable
http://www.ibtimes.com/iraqi-sunni-shei ... up-1952644

It is obvious no one cares about them an Dowlah is their only option and they are working with the limited resources they have for their families

Wait. Flip flopping more than a sandal. You oppose the Kurds and support gassing them when they fight against your idol, Saddam, but praise them when they fight against Shias?

Shurjah wrote:

Pilarcraft wrote:'I used the wrong word. (Edited it on this post)

So would you condemn Nigeria for hiring South Africans to fight Tanzim Dowlah in the north
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/worl ... aries.html

"Well no they are terrorist"

Well same in Bahrain we do not want or need Hezbillah or IRGC in the Arab Peninsula

Well yes, I condemn Nigeria. The Nigerian govermnent is a terrible and despicable one.

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:Against Muqtada Al Sadr, Badr Organization, Hezbillah and Iran yes I also applaud Peschmergah for their resistance in Kirkuk and anyone else who will fight Iran
https://www.memri.org/reports/gulf-writ ... ill-enable
http://www.ibtimes.com/iraqi-sunni-shei ... up-1952644

It is obvious no one cares about them an Dowlah is their only option and they are working with the limited resources they have for their families

Wait. Flip flopping more than a sandal. You oppose the Kurds and support gassing them when they fight against your idol, Saddam, but praise them when they fight against Shias?

I support them for resistance against Iran their war against Saddam was illegitmate and I still oppose their independence even from the Shiia government but they are a clear defender here as opposed to fighting offensivley and unreasonably they are having to learn the hard way for their poor desicon making all these years in supporting Iran

Even Turkey is being idiotic about them

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Wait. Flip flopping more than a sandal. You oppose the Kurds and support gassing them when they fight against your idol, Saddam, but praise them when they fight against Shias?

I support them for resistance against Iran their war against Saddam was illegitmate and I still oppose their independence even from the Shiia government but they are a clear defender here as opposed to fighting offensivley and unreasonably they are having to learn the hard way for their poor desicon making all these years in supporting Iran

Even Turkey is being idiotic about them

I asked a yes or no question. You oppose the Kurds and support gassing them when they fight against your idol, Saddam, but praise them when they fight against Shias?

Shurjah wrote:

Alsheb wrote:
If not the IDF itself, their proxies in Daesh and Al Qaeda might have destroyed those nations.

That is a load of bullshit Israel does not have that much power and never will

Oh look. The Arab supremacist Wahhabi NATO supporter is also pro zionism.

What a surprise.

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:I support them for resistance against Iran their war against Saddam was illegitmate and I still oppose their independence even from the Shiia government but they are a clear defender here as opposed to fighting offensivley and unreasonably they are having to learn the hard way for their poor desicon making all these years in supporting Iran

Even Turkey is being idiotic about them

I asked a yes or no question. You oppose the Kurds and support gassing them when they fight against your idol, Saddam, but praise them when they fight against Shias?

It is not a simple yes or no answer

Alsheb wrote:

Shurjah wrote:That is a load of bullshit Israel does not have that much power and never will

Oh look. The Arab supremacist Wahhabi NATO supporter is also pro zionism.

What a surprise.

Israel is powerless compared to the united Arab nations I see no Zionism in that and yes I like NATO they do more good than bad they do plenty bad but they do a lot of good in my opinion

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:I asked a yes or no question. You oppose the Kurds and support gassing them when they fight against your idol, Saddam, but praise them when they fight against Shias?

It is not a simple yes or no answer

No, it is completely a yes or no answer. You only give a damn about the Kurds when they are fighting against the Shia. But when they fight against a Sunni, they are the devil to you. You have a complete lack of moral conviction, regarding the situation, beyond Sunni = good and Shia = bad.

Good job on toning down your racism, though, and switching to another form of bigotry.

Shurjah wrote:

Alsheb wrote:
Oh look. The Arab supremacist Wahhabi NATO supporter is also pro zionism.

What a surprise.

Israel is powerless compared to the united Arab nations I see no Zionism in that and yes I like NATO they do more good than bad they do plenty bad but they do a lot of good in my opinion

Uh... Israel has beaten the Arabs in like 6 wars.

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:Israel is powerless compared to the united Arab nations I see no Zionism in that and yes I like NATO they do more good than bad they do plenty bad but they do a lot of good in my opinion

Uh... Israel has beaten the Arabs in like 6 wars.

in like, every single one of the wars the arab nations have had with it, actually.

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:It is not a simple yes or no answer

No, it is completely a yes or no answer. You only give a damn about the Kurds when they are fighting against the Shia. But when they fight against a Sunni, they are the devil to you. You have a complete lack of moral conviction, regarding the situation, beyond Sunni = good and Shia = bad.

Good job on toning down your racism, though, and switching to another form of bigotry.

They hate us more

The Kurdish groups had no reason to fight Saddam the Halabja gas happened only after their rebellion Saddam did nothing to them that they did no bring to themselves in their arrogance

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:Israel is powerless compared to the united Arab nations I see no Zionism in that and yes I like NATO they do more good than bad they do plenty bad but they do a lot of good in my opinion

Uh... Israel has beaten the Arabs in like 6 wars.

It is because Egypt has been a failure among our nations I mean every Arab nation from Morocco to Oman if we all united as one we could indeed defeat Israel

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:No, it is completely a yes or no answer. You only give a damn about the Kurds when they are fighting against the Shia. But when they fight against a Sunni, they are the devil to you. You have a complete lack of moral conviction, regarding the situation, beyond Sunni = good and Shia = bad.

Good job on toning down your racism, though, and switching to another form of bigotry.

They hate us more

The Kurdish groups had no reason to fight Saddam the Halabja gas happened only after their rebellion Saddam did nothing to them that they did no bring to themselves in their arrogance

"Saddam did nothing wrong!"

It was the bloody Iranians, amirite?

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:They hate us more

The Kurdish groups had no reason to fight Saddam the Halabja gas happened only after their rebellion Saddam did nothing to them that they did no bring to themselves in their arrogance

"Saddam did nothing wrong!"

It was the bloody Iranians, amirite?

No the Iranians had little to nothing to do with it the Kurds should not have rebelled against Saddam it is understandable now why they are because the Abadi Iranian government is the Shiia equivalent of Daesh that is more motivated to kill and murder they are Persian supremacists with Shiia extremism

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Uh... Israel has beaten the Arabs in like 6 wars.

It is because Egypt has been a failure among our nations I mean every Arab nation from Morocco to Oman if we all united as one we could indeed defeat Israel

The Six-Day War was fought by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon with support from the PLO, Algeria, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, Sudan, and Tunisia. What more do you want?

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:

Shurjah wrote:It is because Egypt has been a failure among our nations I mean every Arab nation from Morocco to Oman if we all united as one we could indeed defeat Israel

The Six-Day War was fought by Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, and Lebanon with support from the PLO, Algeria, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Pakistan, Sudan, and Tunisia. What more do you want?

Like I said Egypt is the reason we fail as is the Assad family besides neither Assad or Nasser deserve Al Quds

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:"Saddam did nothing wrong!"

It was the bloody Iranians, amirite?

No the Iranians had little to nothing to do with it the Kurds should not have rebelled against Saddam it is understandable now why they are because the Abadi Iranian government is the Shiia equivalent of Daesh that is more motivated to kill and murder they are Persian supremacists with Shiia extremism

Bwahahahahahaha.

Shurjah wrote:

United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:"Saddam did nothing wrong!"

It was the bloody Iranians, amirite?

No the Iranians had little to nothing to do with it the Kurds should not have rebelled against Saddam it is understandable now why they are because the Abadi Iranian government is the Shiia equivalent of Daesh that is more motivated to kill and murder they are Persian supremacists with Shiia extremism

you've... never been to Iran, have you? the majority of Persian Supremacists are isolationists, actually. Almost none of them even remotely care about the Middle East, and most of them wish to open relations to Europe. But I digress, since that's irrelevant. The Abadi government has shown to be anti Iran (ironically, it's literally the same everywhere in middle east. Iran funds Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, and many other regions, and almost every single one of them Hates Iran. it's just the Ayatollahs being dumb as hell, I suppose) and, if IRan was really in control of Iraq he'd have been overthrown as soon as he decided on going to the Cairo meeting.

Anyway, no. The Kurds should have rebelled sooner, because Saddam was actually genocidal against them before he was genocidal against persians lmao.