Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

by **Pope Joan** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:28 am

One year ago today, an article by James Carden in The Nation contained this information:

"suicide bombers loyal to a the rebel alliance Tahrir al-Sham killed 42 people in the government-held Syrian city of Homs.

Tahrir al-Sham consists of rebel factions that include Nour al-Din al-Zinki (recipients of US funding as recently as 2015), which gained worldwide attention when its members cut the head off of a child last summer; and the allegedly moderate US-funded rebel group Fastaqim, which recently allied itself with Ahrar al-Sham, which itself adheres to an extreme Salafist ideology and is a constituent part of Tahrir al-Sham.

A July 2016 report by Amnesty International condemned both Nour al-Din al-Zinki and Ahrar al-Sham for committing “serious violations of international humanitarian law, including abductions, torture and summary killings.”"

The so called rebel allies of the US are terrorists, and when Assad and the Russians attack them, we demand military reprisals.

by **Internationalist Bastard** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:30 am

Zyr and Pony wrote:Since there doesn't seem to be a dedicated Israeli-Palestinian thread, I'll stick this here

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43384737

An assassin tried to blow up the Palestinian prime minister with a thrown bomb. However, the pm escaped unharmed and vowed to continue reconciliation with Hamas as agreed to last year.

Tengri
At least he made it

by **The of Japan** » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:08 pm

Shofercia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Seems neat, Shof

Unfortunately he's 75, you have the press going "lol military strongman" without even trying to figure out his history, or his knowledge of Libya or the World, and the current UN Recognized Government trying to one up the UN in the delaying game, even though he effectively controls most of the country:

Legend:
Red: Haftar and Allies
Green: National-Transnational-Totally National Government, the UN Recognized One
Blue: Local Forces
Yellow: Tauregs

And dark green is national salvation govt, more Islamist faction that failed to take Tripoli from UN recognizes govt.

by **Pilarcraft** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:02 am

Apparently a Saudi prince committed suicide in London recently.

by **The of Japan** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:28 pm

https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/14- ... afr-shil-w
Turkish troops are a kilometer from Afrin
EDIT: Turkey is bombing Syrian positions near Nubl

by **Durin VII** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:08 pm

The of Japan wrote:https://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2018/14-march-fsa-captured-2-ypg-militias-alive-in-kafr-shil-w
Turkish troops are a kilometer from Afrin
EDIT: Turkey is bombing Syrian positions near Nubl

Looks like the Kurds have finally broken down on two fronts, allowing the Turkish military and the 'rebels' it backs to push on to Afrin. It doesn't matter though, The Kurdish defeat was/is inevitable.

by **MERIZoC** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:33 pm

HELLo
https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/974103060296359938

by **Neanderthaland** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:38 pm

MERIZoC wrote:HELLo
https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/974103060296359938

Declaring war on China, while fighting and dying in Syria, against people who aren't Chinese.

I bet the Chinese can't believe their luck.

by **MERIZoC** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:42 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:HELLo
https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/974103060296359938

Declaring war on China, while fighting and dying in Syria, against people who aren't Chinese.

I bet the Chinese can't believe their luck.

On the one hand, yeah. But on the other, if China comes to see Turkey as harboring and promoting Uighur jihadists...

by **Neanderthaland** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:52 pm

MERIZoC wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Declaring war on China, while fighting and dying in Syria, against people who aren't Chinese.

I bet the Chinese can't believe their luck.

On the one hand, yeah. But on the other, if China comes to see Turkey as harboring and promoting Uighur jihadists...

You do have to wonder what the Turkish government is thinking. Burning their bridges with everyone.

Then you remember who's in charge.

by **Socialist Czechia** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:11 am

In case of Turks, Deus is never enough into Vult

Since I have no family and pretty much hate Appeasement towards Erdogan's criminal regime, if I had military training, perhaps I would end here myself, although I wouldn't be stupid to try cross borders from Turkish side (because of which Turks sent to jail few of us, recently - even the dude and his girlfriend, although they intended only to help in non-combat roles).

But start proper International Brigades with proper training camps, and I'll sign anyway. Following example of Czech legions in Russia, brigades in Spain and czech units in RAF and British Army. You can bet there were Czechs in Yugoslavia, 1999, when it was bombed by NATO, too.
Or Czech volunteers on the side of separatists in Ukraine. Authorities here couldn't care less anyway, which is good.

by **Pilarcraft** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:42 am

Honestly though, Turkey's like, burning bridges with everyone. NATO, China, possibly Russia too, as it seems to be going (since they're pretty much invading sovereign syrian territory and all)...
I wonder what the fuck Erdogan is thinking...
Oh wait. he can't think.

by **Socialist Czechia** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:08 am

Pilarcraft wrote:Honestly though, Turkey's like, burning bridges with everyone. NATO, China, possibly Russia too, as it seems to be going (since they're pretty much invading sovereign syrian territory and all)...
I wonder what the fuck Erdogan is thinking...
Oh wait. he can't think.

blame greece
Turkey can into space.
Kebab stronk.

It's funny because it's true.

EDIT:

Not sure if they just want to preserve evacuation corridor or it's a preparation for a siege: so maintain supply lines as long as possible and then draw Turkish forces into meat grinder with trenches, mines and urban warfare, combined with diversion tactics.
Turks like to always think they are great warriors, but is their state actually prepared to wage a total war, which is a possibility?

by **The of Japan** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:13 am

Socialist Czechia wrote:
Pilarcraft wrote:Honestly though, Turkey's like, burning bridges with everyone. NATO, China, possibly Russia too, as it seems to be going (since they're pretty much invading sovereign syrian territory and all)...
I wonder what the fuck Erdogan is thinking...
Oh wait. he can't think.

blame greece
Turkey can into space.
Kebab stronk.

It's funny because it's true.

EDIT:

Not sure if they just want to preserve evacuation corridor or it's a preparation for a siege: so maintain supply lines as long as possible and then draw Turkish forces into meat grinder with trenches, mines and urban warfare, combined with diversion tactics.
Turks like to always think they are great warriors, but is their state actually prepared to wage a total war, which is a possibility?

It seems the Turks are avoiding Tall Rifat until it is decided who gets it.

by **Baltenstein** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:40 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:On the one hand, yeah. But on the other, if China comes to see Turkey as harboring and promoting Uighur jihadists...

You do have to wonder what the Turkish government is thinking. Burning their bridges with everyone.

They have Allah, they don't need anyone else.

by **Socialist Czechia** » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:37 pm

Assad couldn't wish better thing. Now he can finally create SAA/SDF united front against foreign invaders AND terrorists - of all groups. Kurds and loyalists fighting side by side, supported by Russian air strikes.

by **Alsheb** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:52 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:You do have to wonder what the Turkish government is thinking. Burning their bridges with everyone.

They have Allah, they don't need anyone else.

The Turks aren't even particularly religious though. This is mostly out of nationalism and irredentism.

by **Constitutional Technocracy of Minecraft** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:55 am

Pilarcraft wrote:Honestly though, Turkey's like, burning bridges with everyone. NATO, China, possibly Russia too, as it seems to be going (since they're pretty much invading sovereign syrian territory and all)...
I wonder what the fuck Erdogan is thinking...
Oh wait. he can't think.

The Turkish government, through its descent into authoritarianism, jailed someone for posting an online picture comparing Erdogan to Gollum.

Welp, he does look a bit like Gollum...

by **Socialist Czechia** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:24 am

I say captured prisoners should be used by SAA to clear the roads and destroyed towns. And to protect supply lines as a meat shields.
Who will remain alive by the end of civil war, can be pardoned. Or exiled.

That's the most humane treatment of so called 'rebels' I can think of.

by **Al-Ismailiyya** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:31 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:
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I say captured prisoners should be used by SAA to clear the roads and destroyed towns. And to protect supply lines as a meat shields.
Who will remain alive by the end of civil war, can be pardoned. Or exiled.

That's the most humane treatment of so called 'rebels' I can think of.

Good God.

by **Azerbaijstan** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:38 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:HELLo
https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/974103060296359938

Declaring war on China, while fighting and dying in Syria, against people who aren't Chinese.

I bet the Chinese can't believe their luck.

Make Turan Great Again!

by **Shurjah** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:51 pm

Pope Joan wrote:One year ago today, an article by James Carden in The Nation contained this information:

"suicide bombers loyal to a the rebel alliance Tahrir al-Sham killed 42 people in the government-held Syrian city of Homs.

Tahrir al-Sham consists of rebel factions that include Nour al-Din al-Zinki (recipients of US funding as recently as 2015), which gained worldwide attention when its members cut the head off of a child last summer; and the allegedly moderate US-funded rebel group Fastaqim, which recently allied itself with Ahrar al-Sham, which itself adheres to an extreme Salafist ideology and is a constituent part of Tahrir al-Sham.

A July 2016 report by Amnesty International condemned both Nour al-Din al-Zinki and Ahrar al-Sham for committing “serious violations of international humanitarian law, including abductions, torture and summary killings.”"

The so called rebel allies of the US are terrorists, and when Assad and the Russians attack them, we demand military reprisals.

Interesting 42 people only and this is a issue? How about the thousands in Aleppo and Ghouta that Assad kills it's pathetic the lengths gone to paint the picture of Islam being evil while even the worst of the worst are commemorated because they don't want Islamic law.

by **Shurjah** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:55 pm

Socialist Czechia wrote:
(Image)

I say captured prisoners should be used by SAA to clear the roads and destroyed towns. And to protect supply lines as a meat shields.
Who will remain alive by the end of civil war, can be pardoned. Or exiled.

That's the most humane treatment of so called 'rebels' I can think of.

So ridiculous and weird the fascination that Western Communists and liberals and Islam haters in general have with Assad and the typical reasnoning is "He's secular", it appears war crimes and other intolerable acts are okay just because of the principle of secularism.

by **Shurjah** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:57 pm

Shofercia wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:Seems neat, Shof

Unfortunately he's 75, you have the press going "lol military strongman" without even trying to figure out his history, or his knowledge of Libya or the World, and the current UN Recognized Government trying to one up the UN in the delaying game, even though he effectively controls most of the country:

Legend:
Red: Haftar and Allies
Green: National-Transnational-Totally National Government, the UN Recognized One
Blue: Local Forces
Yellow: Tauregs

Haftar is a pig it's ridiculous non-Libyans praising the oppressors of Libyans we do not want him he is no strong man he is a pussy

by **The of Japan** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:15 pm

Shurjah wrote:
Socialist Czechia wrote:
(Image)

I say captured prisoners should be used by SAA to clear the roads and destroyed towns. And to protect supply lines as a meat shields.
Who will remain alive by the end of civil war, can be pardoned. Or exiled.

That's the most humane treatment of so called 'rebels' I can think of.

So ridiculous and weird the fascination that Western Communists and liberals and Islam haters in general have with Assad and the typical reasnoning is "He's secular", it appears war crimes and other intolerable acts are okay just because of the principle of secularism.

Would Hayat Tahrir al sham be any better?

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