Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

[Senkaku]

Hezbollah made the last process of forming a government in Lebanon very difficult because they kept vetoing candidates. The presence of Hezbollah as a recognized political party in Syria would make it impossible to include opponents of Assad in a post-war government.

You think Hezbollah alone, and not the massive divisions between all the parties, is responsible for political instability in Lebanon? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for Hezbollah, you'd see the zionists making Lebanon a hell of a lot more "unstable"

ah, a Woke™ anprim defending Hezbollah, this should be ideologically consistent and make total sense

[MERIZoC]

You think Hezbollah alone, and not the massive divisions between all the parties, is responsible for political instability in Lebanon? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for Hezbollah, you'd see the zionists making Lebanon a hell of a lot more "unstable"

ah, a Woke™ anprim defending Hezbollah, this should be ideologically consistent and make total sense

It's quite consistent. Hezbollah is a successful and formidable enemy of Israel, therefore I support them.

[Geilinor]

ah, a Woke™ anprim defending Hezbollah, this should be ideologically consistent and make total sense

It's quite consistent. Hezbollah is a successful and formidable enemy of Israel, therefore I support them.

Would you support them if they invaded Israel?

[Socialist Czechia]

It's quite consistent. Hezbollah is a successful and formidable enemy of Israel, therefore I support them.

Would you support them if they invaded Israel?

Such debate is pointless since Israel got nukes and ICBMs, meaning there's actually, literally no option for anyone on Earth to be real threat.
If Jews wanted biblical vengeance upon thee, they have enough warheads to burn everything islamic, all the way from Istanbul to Riyad.



Can be said, that violence is 'quite normal' in this area, after all, since Middle East was always powder keg of ethnicities and religions. Even Roman Empire had to solve many rebellions and foreign attacks, much sooner than barbarians from Germania overwhelmed them.

Like when Jews betrayed the Empire, so the Roman Emperor made sure they won't do it again (I know, they still tried afterwards, but were crushed again).

[The Parkus Empire]

Hezbollah made the last process of forming a government in Lebanon very difficult because they kept vetoing candidates. The presence of Hezbollah as a recognized political party in Syria would make it impossible to include opponents of Assad in a post-war government.

You think Hezbollah alone, and not the massive divisions between all the parties, is responsible for political instability in Lebanon? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for Hezbollah, you'd see the zionists making Lebanon a hell of a lot more "unstable"

Israel certainly didn't precipitate the Lebanese civil war.

[Pope Joan]

Hezbollah made the last process of forming a government in Lebanon very difficult because they kept vetoing candidates. The presence of Hezbollah as a recognized political party in Syria would make it impossible to include opponents of Assad in a post-war government.

You think Hezbollah alone, and not the massive divisions between all the parties, is responsible for political instability in Lebanon? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for Hezbollah, you'd see the zionists making Lebanon a hell of a lot more "unstable"

That is the honest truth. They want to co opt the whole country, take it over as they did Joppa.

During one flare up, when Israel targeted and killed UN observers who had radioed their position hoping to be spared (remember?) Israel thought it would be fun to decide that Lebanon's orchards, beaches and resorts were prime military targets, so they blew them up. Suddenly the nearby Jewish resorts and beaches and orchards seemed much more attractive

[The Parkus Empire]

You think Hezbollah alone, and not the massive divisions between all the parties, is responsible for political instability in Lebanon? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for Hezbollah, you'd see the zionists making Lebanon a hell of a lot more "unstable"

That is the honest truth. They want to co opt the whole country, take it over as they did Joppa.

During one flare up, when Israel targeted and killed UN observers who had radioed their position hoping to be spared (remember?) Israel thought it would be fun to decide that Lebanon's orchards, beaches and resorts were prime military targets, so they blew them up. Suddenly the nearby Jewish resorts and beaches and orchards seemed much more attractive

Israel backed the Free Lebanon State; they annexed a portion because Hezbollah won

[MERIZoC]

It's quite consistent. Hezbollah is a successful and formidable enemy of Israel, therefore I support them.

Would you support them if they invaded Israel?

Not particularly, because I don't really support invasions. Hence my dislike for the zionists.

[MERIZoC]

https://twitter.com/Nurimahmud1/status/966796303505215488

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[Internationalist Bastard]

https://twitter.com/Nurimahmud1/status/966796303505215488

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What groups are those, exactly

[Bakery Hill]

The YPG have ceded their Aleppo enclave around Sheikh Maqsoud to the regime. I've seen some reports that the Mukhabarat (Assad's secret police) are already detaining people in the area.

[MERIZoC]

https://twitter.com/Nurimahmud1/status/966796303505215488

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What groups are those, exactly

TFSA

[Rojava Free State]

America needs to go home. No one wants them in the region. The US only makes things worse when they meddle in these affairs and we all know they do it for selfish reasons anyway. The Libya invasion, just like the Iraq War, only caused more terror and instability. The Syrian War will end in a nasty fashion regardless of who the US sides with, and America can't win. You will have Assad, or you will have Islamists, or you will have Turkish puppets or you will have supposed freedom fighters who just get overthrown by Islamists. My bet is Assad wins and the whole revolution will have been for nothing.

[United Muscovite Nations]

The YPG have ceded their Aleppo enclave around Sheikh Maqsoud to the regime. I've seen some reports that the Mukhabarat (Assad's secret police) are already detaining people in the area.

The term "secret police" should be banned. If everyone knows about and fears it, it is not a secret police. If it has a giant office building at its headquarters where you can make appointments and speak to representatives, it's definitely not secret. (don't know if the latter is true of Assad's, but most "secret polices" were completely open with their operations and had public headquarters, like the KGB).

[Durin VII]

https://twitter.com/Nurimahmud1/status/966796303505215488

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"in the village of Afrin"

Yeah right...

The YPG have ceded their Aleppo enclave around Sheikh Maqsoud to the regime. I've seen some reports that the Mukhabarat (Assad's secret police) are already detaining people in the area.

I can hardly blame them. It's pretty much impossible to trust anyone inside newly obtained areas in Syria these days.

[Kubumba Tribe]

America needs to go home. No one wants them in the region. The US only makes things worse when they meddle in these affairs and we all know they do it for selfish reasons anyway. The Libya invasion, just like the Iraq War, only caused more terror and instability. The Syrian War will end in a nasty fashion regardless of who the US sides with, and America can't win. You will have Assad, or you will have Islamists, or you will have Turkish puppets or you will have supposed freedom fighters who just get overthrown by Islamists. My bet is Assad wins and the whole revolution will have been for nothing.

Agreed. But if Islamists could win, I'd like that.

[Kramanica]

Hezbollah made the last process of forming a government in Lebanon very difficult because they kept vetoing candidates. The presence of Hezbollah as a recognized political party in Syria would make it impossible to include opponents of Assad in a post-war government.

You think Hezbollah alone, and not the massive divisions between all the parties, is responsible for political instability in Lebanon? Don't make me laugh. If it weren't for Hezbollah, you'd see the zionists making Lebanon a hell of a lot more "unstable"

>the Zionists
Lol the Middle East's favorite boogeyman, second only to Jews in general.

[Kramanica]

https://twitter.com/Nurimahmud1/status/966796303505215488

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[Washington Resistance Army]

America needs to go home. No one wants them in the region. The US only makes things worse when they meddle in these affairs and we all know they do it for selfish reasons anyway. The Libya invasion, just like the Iraq War, only caused more terror and instability. The Syrian War will end in a nasty fashion regardless of who the US sides with, and America can't win. You will have Assad, or you will have Islamists, or you will have Turkish puppets or you will have supposed freedom fighters who just get overthrown by Islamists. My bet is Assad wins and the whole revolution will have been for nothing.

Agreed. But if Islamists could win, I'd like that.

Thankfully the Islamists don't hold any territory anymore because their little caliphate got smashed.

[Rangila]

America needs to go home. No one wants them in the region. The US only makes things worse when they meddle in these affairs and we all know they do it for selfish reasons anyway. The Libya invasion, just like the Iraq War, only caused more terror and instability. The Syrian War will end in a nasty fashion regardless of who the US sides with, and America can't win. You will have Assad, or you will have Islamists, or you will have Turkish puppets or you will have supposed freedom fighters who just get overthrown by Islamists. My bet is Assad wins and the whole revolution will have been for nothing.

Agreed. But if Islamists could win, I'd like that.

Luckily no one in Syria would

[Improved werpland]

Interesting opinion piece.
https://www.dailysabah.com/columns/ragip-soylu/2018/02/15/three-broken-us-promises-on-manbij

[Durin VII]

Interesting opinion piece.
https://www.dailysabah.com/columns/ragip-soylu/2018/02/15/three-broken-us-promises-on-manbij

There are multiple errors in the piece like the claim that the YPG is the Syrian affiliate of the PKK and the claim that Turkey is being reasonable in the conflict.

Aside from that there's nothing new. The US isn't a country known for being trustworthy nor is it a country known to be careful when it comes down to foreign policies and military activites.

[Improved werpland]

Interesting opinion piece.
https://www.dailysabah.com/columns/ragip-soylu/2018/02/15/three-broken-us-promises-on-manbij

There are multiple errors in the piece like the claim that the YPG is the Syrian affiliate of the PKK and the claim that Turkey is being reasonable in the conflict.

Aside from that there's nothing new. The US isn't a country known for being trustworthy nor is it a country known to be careful when it comes down to foreign policies and military activites.

No it's not an error, it's a common fact which both the CIA and our former ambassador to Syria acknowledge. The second error is not an error but an opinion.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Agreed. But if Islamists could win, I'd like that.

Thankfully the Islamists don't hold any territory anymore because their little caliphate got smashed.

What makes you think that I'm talking about ISIS?

[Aillyria]

America needs to go home. No one wants them in the region. The US only makes things worse when they meddle in these affairs and we all know they do it for selfish reasons anyway. The Libya invasion, just like the Iraq War, only caused more terror and instability. The Syrian War will end in a nasty fashion regardless of who the US sides with, and America can't win. You will have Assad, or you will have Islamists, or you will have Turkish puppets or you will have supposed freedom fighters who just get overthrown by Islamists. My bet is Assad wins and the whole revolution will have been for nothing.

Agreed. But if Islamists could win, I'd like that.

I never took you for a Daesh supporter......