Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

[Alsheb]

Yes, but not by violently taking land from others.

As has been said so many times before, the "Israelis" are not a homogenous ethnic group, most of them are not descended from the Hebrews, and they have no ancestral link to the land whatsoever.

Judaism is a religion. And a religion by its very definition is not limited to one ethnic group, and as such has no ethnic homeland that have right to.

What is the answer then? Throw them to sea as their neighbors have tried to do several times but had their ass handed to them every single time?

No. As I referenced above, a Miko Peled styke of governance. One nation for all, without zionism, without Jewish supremacism, and with redistribution of land and power amongst all population groups.

That would in and by itself be the "end of Israel", as Israel is by definition an exclusive and Jewish-supremacist state.

[Alsheb]

Yes, they were very good at massacring villages. So?

And wiping out the organized armies of Islamic countries that rallied to Palestine's defense. The best chance was Saddam but he is gone now. The old Shia trick of sending 12 year olds over minefields doesn't work on Israel. They are far better at organized violence. Much lIke the white man and the native. They lost rightfully so for the same reason.

So whoever kills best is morally right?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

And wiping out the organized armies of Islamic countries that rallied to Palestine's defense. The best chance was Saddam but he is gone now. The old Shia trick of sending 12 year olds over minefields doesn't work on Israel. They are far better at organized violence. Much lIke the white man and the native. They lost rightfully so for the same reason.

So whoever kills best is morally right?

Might makes right, amirite?

[The East Marches II]

And wiping out the organized armies of Islamic countries that rallied to Palestine's defense. The best chance was Saddam but he is gone now. The old Shia trick of sending 12 year olds over minefields doesn't work on Israel. They are far better at organized violence. Much lIke the white man and the native. They lost rightfully so for the same reason.

So whoever kills best is morally right?

Yes in the context of nations, international law etc.

You are basically a tankie, you ought to appreciate that point of view.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

So whoever kills best is morally right?

Yes in the context of nations, international law etc.

You never fail to bemuse, do you, TEM?

[Uxupox]

What is the answer then? Throw them to sea as their neighbors have tried to do several times but had their ass handed to them every single time?

No. As I referenced above, a Miko Peled styke of governance. One nation for all, without zionism, without [bJewish supremacism[/b], and with redistribution of land and power amongst all population groups.

That would in and by itself be the "end of Israel", as Israel is by definition an exclusive and Jewish-supremacist state.

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes. Unlike in the Palestinian Authority unto where they have a damn quota for women electorates and selling or housing any person that belongs to the Jewish religion is punishable by death.

[Dominatus (Ancient)]

The easiest way to fix the Middle East is to establish Ba'athist governments in every one of their nations and get rid of Israel and the Saudis. Easy.

[The East Marches II]

Yes in the context of nations, international law etc.

You never fail to bemuse, do you, TEM?

Of course, with Saddam gone somebody has to take up the mantle of Arab defender.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Can't reclaim their land if they have no birthright to it.

Didn't stop the zionists though, did it?

Neither did the Arabs.

It wasn't my idea, it was Hitler's.

Indeed. So you admit following ideas that were originally Hitler's...

I do not recall participating in any Israeli operations involving the relocation of Palestinians.

Does it not require living space?

Yes, but not by violently taking land from others.

How else are you supposed to spread a religion?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

No. As I referenced above, a Miko Peled styke of governance. One nation for all, without zionism, without [bJewish supremacism[/b], and with redistribution of land and power amongst all population groups.

That would in and by itself be the "end of Israel", as Israel is by definition an exclusive and Jewish-supremacist state.

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes.

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

[Kash Island]

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes.

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

lol what?

maybe Islamic nations can claim to have that terrible of a social situation but israel dosn't.

yeah that country who lets arabs into positions of power(muslim arabs at that) and let's them pray at holy sites, allows gay pride marches etc etc

[Uxupox]

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes.

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

Not comparable at all. Very astounding differences exist. For one thing it was inconceivable to think that an African american would serve as a supreme judge of the nation.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes.

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

The prime minister is the representative of his nation. We should an Arab represent Jews?

[Kash Island]

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

The prime minister is the representative of his nation. We should an Arab represent Jews?

an Arab can be jewish like anyone else.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

lol what?

maybe Islamic nations can claim to have that terrible of a social situation but israel dosn't.

yeah that country who lets arabs into positions of power(muslim arabs at that) and let's them pray at holy sites, allows gay pride marches etc etc

Yeah, it lets them in. And Shin Bet arrests them and police shoot them with sponge bullets while protesting the Israeli government tearing down people's homes.

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

Not comparable at all. Very astounding differences exist. For one thing it was inconceivable to think that an African american would serve as a supreme judge of the nation.

What?

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

The prime minister is the representative of his nation. We should an Arab represent Jews?

Should a Jew represent Arabs? Or would you rather there be no Arabs in Israel? Hmmm.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

lol what?

maybe Islamic nations can claim to have that terrible of a social situation but israel dosn't.

yeah that country who lets arabs into positions of power(muslim arabs at that) and let's them pray at holy sites, allows gay pride marches etc etc

Yeah, it lets them in. And Shin Bet arrests them and police shoot them with sponge bullets while protesting the Israeli government tearing down people's homes.

Not comparable at all. Very astounding differences exist. For one thing it was inconceivable to think that an African american would serve as a supreme judge of the nation.

What?

The prime minister is the representative of his nation. We should an Arab represent Jews?

Should a Jew represent Arabs? Or would you rather there be no Arabs in Israel? Hmmm.

Can't have two prime ministers.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Yeah, it lets them in. And Shin Bet arrests them and police shoot them with sponge bullets while protesting the Israeli government tearing down people's homes.

What?


Should a Jew represent Arabs? Or would you rather there be no Arabs in Israel? Hmmm.

Can't have two prime ministers.

You could if there were two states

[The Alma Mater]

Of course, he has the right to. And a black person in Alabama in 1963 had the right to vote.

The prime minister is the representative of his nation. We should an Arab represent Jews?

Why not ? An orange man is supposed to represent whites and blackk in the USA after all.

[Alsheb]

So whoever kills best is morally right?

Yes in the context of nations, international law etc.

You are basically a tankie, you ought to appreciate that point of view.

Tankie only in the meaning of Marxist-Leninist, not as in I actually love tanks or military prowess in and of itself, no.

[Alsheb]

No. As I referenced above, a Miko Peled styke of governance. One nation for all, without zionism, without [bJewish supremacism[/b], and with redistribution of land and power amongst all population groups.

That would in and by itself be the "end of Israel", as Israel is by definition an exclusive and Jewish-supremacist state.

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes. Unlike in the Palestinian Authority unto where they have a damn quota for women electorates and selling or housing any person that belongs to the Jewish religion is punishable by death.

You know as well as all of us that those laws are absolute horseshit and only exist to create an illusion of equality. No equality under law has ever existed in "Israel", and definitely not in the areas they occupy in the West Bank.

[Uxupox]

Not comparable at all. Very astounding differences exist. For one thing it was inconceivable to think that an African american would serve as a supreme judge of the nation.

What?

No such thing. A Muslim Arab has the right to become the Prime Minister of Israel if he has enough votes. Unlike in the Palestinian Authority unto where they have a damn quota for women electorates and selling or housing any person that belongs to the Jewish religion is punishable by death.

You know as well as all of us that those laws are absolute horseshit and only exist to create an illusion of equality. No equality under law has ever existed in "Israel", and definitely not in the areas they occupy in the West Bank.

They are a shit ton better than getting literally get executed in Gaza because you housed a Jew in your home.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

What?

Yes. Thurgood Marshall served as a SC justice 2 years after the passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. What point are you trying to make here?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Can't have two prime ministers.

You could if there were two states

There are two states; one for the Arabs, one for the Jews.

Arabs can go to Palestine if they're sick of Jews.

[Uxupox]

Yes. Thurgood Marshall served as a SC justice 2 years after the passage of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. What point are you trying to make here?

That the 1963 American social landscape in comparison with Israeli's basic human rights law is by no means comparable at all.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

You could if there were two states

There are two states; one for the Arabs, one for the Jews.

Arabs can go to Palestine if they're sick of Jews.

They would, but, ya know, those illegal Israeli settlements, tho.