Middle East Conflict Megathread (Syria, Iraq, Yemen, etc)

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

You support a government hiring outside forces to suppress the political actions of their own citizens? So, you would support Gaddafi's extensive use of mercenaries on his own people? Oh, wait. I forgot. So long as they're Shia, it's fine, but if it happens to a Sunni, it is horrible.

I do not condemn him for hiring private armies I condemn him for hurting us and repressing us

What Iraq's Shiia puppet government does is far worse with Abu Ghraib and that they had ministers like that son of bitch Solagh

Who said anything about Iraq? Do you not know any arguments besides calling Iraq an Iranian puppet? We are talking about Bahrain. You defended the Bahraini king's use of foreign mercenaries to kill and beat his own citizens.

[Thermodolia]

Revoke their citizenship and leave them to get blown to shit in the ruins of their caliphate.

Revoking citizenship isn't legally possible.

Yes it is. At least for the US it is

[Pilarcraft]

it is though.
When you hire outside forces, who aren't even conscripted by you from your population, to put the people down in an actual legitimate protest, you just show that you're absolutely (100%) illegitimate as a ruler.

When you hire outside forces, who aren't even hired by you,

That made no sense so they are hired by you but are not?

'I used the wrong word. (Edited it on this post)

[Shurjah]

I do not condemn him for hiring private armies I condemn him for hurting us and repressing us

What Iraq's Shiia puppet government does is far worse with Abu Ghraib and that they had ministers like that son of bitch Solagh

Who said anything about Iraq? Do you not know any arguments besides calling Iraq an Iranian puppet? We are talking about Bahrain. You defended the Bahraini king's use of foreign mercenaries to kill and beat his own citizens.

If you condemn Bahrain's king for doing minor things and you saying 'oh poor Shiias of Bahrain' all while ignoring Shiia crimes across our region

[Shurjah]

When you hire outside forces, who aren't even hired by you,

That made no sense so they are hired by you but are not?

'I used the wrong word. (Edited it on this post)

So would you condemn Nigeria for hiring South Africans to fight Tanzim Dowlah in the north
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/worl ... aries.html

"Well no they are terrorist"

Well same in Bahrain we do not want or need Hezbillah or IRGC in the Arab Peninsula

[Kenmoria]

Assad or asshole

Definitely the latter; his tyrannical leadership formed the conditions for ISIS to develop.

[The Alma Mater]

Revoking citizenship isn't legally possible.

Yes it is. At least for the US it is

Not if you were born in the USA. Then the citizen can only voluntarily give it up.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Who said anything about Iraq? Do you not know any arguments besides calling Iraq an Iranian puppet? We are talking about Bahrain. You defended the Bahraini king's use of foreign mercenaries to kill and beat his own citizens.

If you condemn Bahrain's king for doing minor things and you saying 'oh poor Shiias of Bahrain' all while ignoring Shiia crimes across our region

Minor things? 93 Bahraini civilians died, 2,900+ were wounded, 2,929 were arrested, 1,866+ were tortured, and 500+ were exiled. These are people who were simply expressing their political opposition to an oppressive apartheid regime through nonviolent protest and strikes.

Abu Ghraib, on the other hand, was horrible, but it actually served a purpose. The American soldiers responsible for the abuse were convicted by military trial and given dishonourable discharges and jail time. These inmates were overwhelmingly convicted terrorists who were repeatedly aided in escape by forces like al-Qaeda and Daesh.

Not to mention the fact that you keep bringing it up, but it was used extensively by your idol Saddam to hold thousands of dissidents. This includes the numerous bodies that have been found in secret mass graves from the time.

[Thermodolia]

Yes it is. At least for the US it is

Not if you were born in the USA. Then the citizen can only voluntarily give it up.

No there is a way to revoke any citizen of their citizenship.

Though it would take an act of congress to do so

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Play the celebratory music!

Fuck ISIS! Fuck those murderous scum!

[Pilarcraft]

'I used the wrong word. (Edited it on this post)

So would you condemn Nigeria for hiring South Africans to fight Tanzim Dowlah in the north
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/worl ... aries.html

"Well no they are terrorist"

Well same in Bahrain we do not want or need Hezbillah or IRGC in the Arab Peninsula

I blame the host country if they hire outside mercenary force to fight against their people. This doesn't change. If the Government was legitimate, its army would've done the killing by itself. When you can't get your army to do that, you have no legitimacy. (And no. Both Bahrain and Nigeria have a standing military.

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

'I used the wrong word. (Edited it on this post)

So would you condemn Nigeria for hiring South Africans to fight Tanzim Dowlah in the north
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/worl ... aries.html

"Well no they are terrorist"

Well same in Bahrain we do not want or need Hezbillah or IRGC in the Arab Peninsula

So, every Shia in Bahrain, all hundreds of thousands of them, are in Hezbollah or the IRGC?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

This is great news! Fuck ISIS, they give islam a bad name.

They also give the god named Isis a bad name.

[United Imperial Systems]

Great news, although having ISIS turn into an idea sounds... A bit scarier.


I don't get the title...

The opposite of the word "Is" is "Was."

Go figure.

Lol, don't be surprised, me is rather stupid.

[Shurjah]

If you condemn Bahrain's king for doing minor things and you saying 'oh poor Shiias of Bahrain' all while ignoring Shiia crimes across our region

Minor things? 93 Bahraini civilians died, 2,900+ were wounded, 2,929 were arrested, 1,866+ were tortured, and 500+ were exiled. These are people who were simply expressing their political opposition to an oppressive apartheid regime through nonviolent protest and strikes.

Abu Ghraib, on the other hand, was horrible, but it actually served a purpose. The American soldiers responsible for the abuse were convicted by military trial and given dishonourable discharges and jail time. These inmates were overwhelmingly convicted terrorists who were repeatedly aided in escape by forces like al-Qaeda and Daesh.

Not to mention the fact that you keep bringing it up, but it was used extensively by your idol Saddam to hold thousands of dissidents. This includes the numerous bodies that have been found in secret mass graves from the time.

This is all bullshit it served no perpose a majoirty of the imprisoned were normal men and even women being arrested for being Sunni Arabs sodomizing men in front of their families who did nothing is not acceptable for anyone not even Shiias and it was not just the American army the Amercian army established it but it was Shiias who ran it they administered it and filled with inmates of their selection for their genocide.

Now they are done in their conquest of Sunni Arabs they are now preparing to attack the Sunni Kurds

[Shurjah]

So would you condemn Nigeria for hiring South Africans to fight Tanzim Dowlah in the north
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/13/worl ... aries.html

"Well no they are terrorist"

Well same in Bahrain we do not want or need Hezbillah or IRGC in the Arab Peninsula

So, every Shia in Bahrain, all hundreds of thousands of them, are in Hezbollah or the IRGC?

So every Sunni in Iraq all millions of them are in Tanzim Dowlah

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Minor things? 93 Bahraini civilians died, 2,900+ were wounded, 2,929 were arrested, 1,866+ were tortured, and 500+ were exiled. These are people who were simply expressing their political opposition to an oppressive apartheid regime through nonviolent protest and strikes.

Abu Ghraib, on the other hand, was horrible, but it actually served a purpose. The American soldiers responsible for the abuse were convicted by military trial and given dishonourable discharges and jail time. These inmates were overwhelmingly convicted terrorists who were repeatedly aided in escape by forces like al-Qaeda and Daesh.

Not to mention the fact that you keep bringing it up, but it was used extensively by your idol Saddam to hold thousands of dissidents. This includes the numerous bodies that have been found in secret mass graves from the time.

This is all bullshit it served no perpose a majoirty of the imprisoned were normal men and even women being arrested for being Sunni Arabs sodomizing men in front of their families who did nothing is not acceptable for anyone not even Shiias and it was not just the American army the Amercian army established it but it was Shiias who ran it they administered it and filled with inmates of their selection for their genocide.

Now they are done in their conquest of Sunni Arabs they are now preparing to attack the Sunni Kurds

Holy tinfoil hat, Batman! If the majority were innocent, why did terrorists try so hard to free the inmates? Or do you view Daesh and al-Qaeda as "freedom fighters" and not terrorists?

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

So, every Shia in Bahrain, all hundreds of thousands of them, are in Hezbollah or the IRGC?

So every Sunni in Iraq all millions of them are in Tanzim Dowlah

Who said that? I sure as hell didn't. That situation is a false equivalency, anyhow, as Iraq is majority Shia and ruled by Shia.

[Shurjah]

This is all bullshit it served no perpose a majoirty of the imprisoned were normal men and even women being arrested for being Sunni Arabs sodomizing men in front of their families who did nothing is not acceptable for anyone not even Shiias and it was not just the American army the Amercian army established it but it was Shiias who ran it they administered it and filled with inmates of their selection for their genocide.

Now they are done in their conquest of Sunni Arabs they are now preparing to attack the Sunni Kurds

Holy tinfoil hat, Batman! If the majority were innocent, why did terrorists try so hard to free the inmates? Or do you view Daesh and al-Qaeda as "freedom fighters" and not terrorists?

Because if they could free them they would have an army not everyone there was part of any group but as a result of imprisonment they became angry and the resistance groups knew that if they could liberate the torturing facilities they would have people sympathetic.

It was not just Daesh or Al Qaeda it was a coalition of multiple tribal and former Iraqi government fighters from across Iraq it is just Tanzim Dowlah/Daesh takes responsibility for it because they are the most popular

[Shurjah]

So every Sunni in Iraq all millions of them are in Tanzim Dowlah

Who said that? I sure as hell didn't. That situation is a false equivalency, anyhow, as Iraq is majority Shia and ruled by Shia.

No it is ruled by Iran

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Who said that? I sure as hell didn't. That situation is a false equivalency, anyhow, as Iraq is majority Shia and ruled by Shia.

No it is ruled by Iran

Oh, I love you, Shurjah. You provide me great entertainment. It's like watching the History Channel

[Shurjah]

No it is ruled by Iran

Oh, I love you, Shurjah. You provide me great entertainment. It's like watching the History Channel

Iran shout death to America yet they helped invade Iraq they helped create a new government in Iraq that is Iranian run now they have their armies fighting opposition fighters and before you say it is Daesh you should realize that a majority of the fighters are Tribal fighters that fight under the banner of Daesh for financing and arms tribes alone have no strength also the Baath Party helps the resistance efforts as well

[United Islamic Commonwealth]

Oh, I love you, Shurjah. You provide me great entertainment. It's like watching the History Channel

Iran shout death to America yet they helped invade Iraq they helped create a new government in Iraq that is Iranian run now they have their armies fighting opposition fighters and before you say it is Daesh you should realize that a majority of the fighters are Tribal fighters that fight under the banner of Daesh for financing and arms tribes alone have no strength also the Baath Party helps the resistance efforts as well

You want to source any of that? I mean, you're right that the Baath Party is part of the insurgency, but I don't exactly see how that helps your side at all.

[Shurjah]

Iran shout death to America yet they helped invade Iraq they helped create a new government in Iraq that is Iranian run now they have their armies fighting opposition fighters and before you say it is Daesh you should realize that a majority of the fighters are Tribal fighters that fight under the banner of Daesh for financing and arms tribes alone have no strength also the Baath Party helps the resistance efforts as well

You want to source any of that? I mean, you're right that the Baath Party is part of the insurgency, but I don't exactly see how that helps your side at all.

Source for what? Tribal fighters a majority of the fighters in Iraq

[Pilarcraft]

Iran shout death to America yet they helped invade Iraq they helped create a new government in Iraq that is Iranian run now they have their armies fighting opposition fighters and before you say it is Daesh you should realize that a majority of the fighters are Tribal fighters that fight under the banner of Daesh for financing and arms tribes alone have no strength also the Baath Party helps the resistance efforts as well

You want to source any of that? I mean, you're right that the Baath Party is part of the insurgency, but I don't exactly see how that helps your side at all.

he actually supports the Baath.
I mean, not surprising. they both use Islam as a buzzword for arab Supremacy and hate Jews, Iranians, and virtually everyone who's not an arab.