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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:17 pm

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I like to imagine I'm fairly neutral on Trump, at least compared to most people here. He's still done a number of things I like and some things I don't really like. Truthfully all the recent stuff hasn't really changed how I think about his presidency at all.

Of course I've just reached the point where I tune out most of the Russia nonsense because I grew so tired of hearing about it so I might not be the best example..


I don't understand why people dismiss the Russia stuff when legitimate concerns are to be had over this.


It's mostly that I was beaten over the head with it constantly for months on end. When shit like that happens I just start to tune things out.

I don't even really watch the news anymore because all those idiots ever talked about was Twitter and Russia.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:18 pm

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I like to imagine I'm fairly neutral on Trump, at least compared to most people here. He's still done a number of things I like and some things I don't really like. Truthfully all the recent stuff hasn't really changed how I think about his presidency at all.

Of course I've just reached the point where I tune out most of the Russia nonsense because I grew so tired of hearing about it so I might not be the best example..


I don't understand why people dismiss the Russia stuff when legitimate concerns are to be had over this.

Scandal fatigue. When you hear the same scandal all the time, or many scandals with little time between them, you stop caring, even if it actually matters this time. Also, to some extent, the "boy who cried wolf" effect, where many false positives make any further claims of positives hard to take seriously.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:22 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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I don't understand why people dismiss the Russia stuff when legitimate concerns are to be had over this.


It's mostly that I was beaten over the head with it constantly for months on end. When shit like that happens I just start to tune things out.

I don't even really watch the news anymore because all those idiots ever talked about was Twitter and Russia.


Whenever people say that, I always suspect it's half reality and half Baader-Meinhof effect, and a pinch of hyperbole.
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Postby Zanera » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:24 pm

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I don't understand why people dismiss the Russia stuff when legitimate concerns are to be had over this.

Scandal fatigue. When you hear the same scandal all the time, or many scandals with little time between them, you stop caring, even if it actually matters this time. Also, to some extent, the "boy who cried wolf" effect, where many false positives make any further claims of positives hard to take seriously.


I kinda have this until something new pops up (once or twice a week at this rate at least) and makes me go 'wtf'. Then I go back into the lull where I'm just jaded with it, then the 'wtf' moment comes back.

I already try to block out commercials unless it's legit interesting to me. Like the BK pulled pork BBQ sandwich, or when BK tries to release a shitty form of something Hardee's already released.
Like srsly Hardee's is good shit mang.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:26 pm

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He can get away with anything as long as it makes Liberals mad etc.


Really, that mentality that people have annoys me more than anything Trump does.

Something about having other people view my existence as something worthy to be made miserable and as annoying as possible just because I don't think like them just isn't a nice feeling.

But...liberals are the ones saying peoples opinions don't matter if they disagree with them. I read it in the comments!
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:26 pm

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He can get away with anything as long as it makes Liberals mad etc.


Really, that mentality that people have annoys me more than anything Trump does.

Something about having other people view my existence as something worthy to be made miserable and as annoying as possible just because I don't think like them just isn't a nice feeling.

It's disgusting. Why should someone suffer because they are somewhere different on the political spectrum than you? Fucking ludicrous.
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Postby Proctopeo » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:28 pm

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Really, that mentality that people have annoys me more than anything Trump does.

Something about having other people view my existence as something worthy to be made miserable and as annoying as possible just because I don't think like them just isn't a nice feeling.

But...liberals are the ones saying peoples opinions don't matter if they disagree with them. I read it in the comments!

I've seen it from both sides tbh
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:29 pm

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Corrian wrote:But...liberals are the ones saying peoples opinions don't matter if they disagree with them. I read it in the comments!

I've seen it from both sides tbh

Both extremes take it too far.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:29 pm

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It's mostly that I was beaten over the head with it constantly for months on end. When shit like that happens I just start to tune things out.

I don't even really watch the news anymore because all those idiots ever talked about was Twitter and Russia.


Whenever people say that, I always suspect it's half reality and half Baader-Meinhof effect, and a pinch of hyperbole.


Sadly it's all reality. It was all over CNN (despite all the shit I give them they used to be the main channel I watched), it was all over Reddit (even in non-political subs when I was trying to avoid that shit, and it still pops up from time to time even now), plenty of people post regularly about it on NSG, my moms boyfriend who is a Democrat talks about it every chance he gets etc etc. After a while you just stop caring about most of it.
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:30 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I've seen it from both sides tbh

Both extremes take it too far.


Making politics into a spectacle had a very weird effect on society. Ironically, by making it into a spectacle, people have started taking it wayyy too seriously. Like sports.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:48 pm

Proctopeo wrote:
Corrian wrote:But...liberals are the ones saying peoples opinions don't matter if they disagree with them. I read it in the comments!

I've seen it from both sides tbh

Oh, so have I, but people using the one-sided approach is always annoying.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:52 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
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Whenever people say that, I always suspect it's half reality and half Baader-Meinhof effect, and a pinch of hyperbole.


Sadly it's all reality. It was all over CNN (despite all the shit I give them they used to be the main channel I watched), it was all over Reddit (even in non-political subs when I was trying to avoid that shit, and it still pops up from time to time even now), plenty of people post regularly about it on NSG, my moms boyfriend who is a Democrat talks about it every chance he gets etc etc. After a while you just stop caring about most of it.

I get what you mean actually.
We had one of the tv's at work on CNN all day and for 6 hours straight they talked about nothing but Trump and Russia.
I mean yeah it's important and I hate Trump as much as anyone but there's other things that go on in the world people!
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:55 pm

Vassenor wrote:
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Most of the people I've seen who are neutral or pro-Trump don't really care.

Of course that's just anecdotal.


He can get away with anything as long as it makes Liberals mad etc.

I also find what they use to make liberals mad to be rather harmful. Trying to get rid of healthcare (Or stopping UHC) or trying to get rid of other social services hurts everyone (Well, everyone who's not rich) in the long run, not just liberals.

Granted, the left does stuff specifically to piss off the GOP too (Both sides do it a lot, sadly), but for the most part, that stuff isn't generally as harmful as what the Right does.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:10 pm

Valrifell wrote:Really, that mentality that people have annoys me more than anything Trump does.

Something about having other people view my existence as something worthy to be made miserable and as annoying as possible just because I don't think like them just isn't a nice feeling.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:13 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Sadly it's all reality. It was all over CNN (despite all the shit I give them they used to be the main channel I watched), it was all over Reddit (even in non-political subs when I was trying to avoid that shit, and it still pops up from time to time even now), plenty of people post regularly about it on NSG, my moms boyfriend who is a Democrat talks about it every chance he gets etc etc. After a while you just stop caring about most of it.

After a while you stop caring about democracy in your country?

Fucking wonderful.
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Postby Sanctissima » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:20 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Sadly it's all reality. It was all over CNN (despite all the shit I give them they used to be the main channel I watched), it was all over Reddit (even in non-political subs when I was trying to avoid that shit, and it still pops up from time to time even now), plenty of people post regularly about it on NSG, my moms boyfriend who is a Democrat talks about it every chance he gets etc etc. After a while you just stop caring about most of it.

After a while you stop caring about democracy in your country?

Fucking wonderful.


It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

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Postby New haven america » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:22 pm

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Conserative Morality wrote:After a while you stop caring about democracy in your country?

Fucking wonderful.


It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

Well, I personally think it's interesting that the President's own son gave evidence of Russia's involvement...
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:23 pm

Sanctissima wrote:It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

"Lax security and a foreign power interfering in our elections with high-placed members of the current administration and their campaign having been involved with it are exactly the same!"

Yeah, sorry for not seeing that as trivial. :roll:
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New haven america wrote:Well, I personally think it's interesting that the President's own son gave evidence of Russia's involvement...

Trivial, clearly. Who cares if Russia interferes with our elections? Hillary isn't president. That's all that matters. :roll:
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:24 pm

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Conserative Morality wrote:After a while you stop caring about democracy in your country?

Fucking wonderful.


It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

There is nothing trivial about the Russia scandal, and some of Trump's twitter feed is quite important as well.
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Postby New haven america » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:25 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
New haven america wrote:Well, I personally think it's interesting that the President's own son gave evidence of Russia's involvement...

Trivial, clearly. Who cares if Russia interferes with our elections? Hillary isn't president. That's all that matters. :roll:

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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:25 pm

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:There is nothing trivial about the Russia scandal, and some of Trump's twitter feed is quite important as well.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:29 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I like to imagine I'm fairly neutral on Trump, at least compared to most people here. He's still done a number of things I like and some things I don't really like. Truthfully all the recent stuff hasn't really changed how I think about his presidency at all.

Of course I've just reached the point where I tune out most of the Russia nonsense because I grew so tired of hearing about it so I might not be the best example..


I don't understand why people dismiss the Russia stuff when legitimate concerns are to be had over this.


Some do it because they get tired.

Others do it because they don't want to feel that Trump has failed them, so they just tune it out. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... -ignorance

Others, no matter what you do, will change their mind on the facts, but not on how they feel about Trump.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:30 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Sadly it's all reality. It was all over CNN (despite all the shit I give them they used to be the main channel I watched), it was all over Reddit (even in non-political subs when I was trying to avoid that shit, and it still pops up from time to time even now), plenty of people post regularly about it on NSG, my moms boyfriend who is a Democrat talks about it every chance he gets etc etc. After a while you just stop caring about most of it.

After a while you stop caring about democracy in your country?

Fucking wonderful.


More like I stopped caring about people talking about it all the time. If someone can show me real evidence of collusion between Trump and the Russian government I'll probably say he should get the boot. But until then I'm gonna keep tuning it out.
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Postby Sanctissima » Fri Jul 14, 2017 3:32 pm

New haven america wrote:
Sanctissima wrote:
It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

Well, I personally think it's interesting that the President's own son gave evidence of Russia's involvement...


He met with a Russian ambassador, la-di-da. How many foreign ambassadors has Hillary met... several dozen?

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Sanctissima wrote:It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

"Lax security and a foreign power interfering in our elections with high-placed members of the current administration and their campaign having been involved with it are exactly the same!"

Yeah, sorry for not seeing that as trivial. :roll:


Russia barely influenced the results of the election... at all. What little it did do was fuck with the DNC. America's done far worse to far more countries.

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Sanctissima wrote:
It's about as ridiculous as the Hillary e-mails scandal.

A lot of people on both sides of the American bipartisan system are like dogs with a bone. They just won't let it go. I mean, fuck, how do you people remain interested in something so trivial for so long?

There is nothing trivial about the Russia scandal, and some of Trump's twitter feed is quite important as well.


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