Trump MAGAthread VII

[Genivaria]

Piss off Tyrion Lannister is best character.

Also is it bad that the noble class are so shitty that I actually started to sympathize with the violent theocrat in the last season?

100% terrible. The High Sparrow made Cersei bearable in comparison.

At least he was fucking consistent.
None of the nobles were like "No you can't take him there's nothing wrong with what he did you're just being a tyrant!"
No instead they were like "It doesn't matter what we do we're fucking nobles you filthy peasant."

Not inspiring of sympathy.

They might be fanatics but at least they held themselves to the same fucked up standards they held everyone else to, that's more than can be said for the corrupt nobles.

[The East Marches II]

>When you don't watch game of thrones and don't get the reference

Pls send help or IM

Basically, when people "and then, along came a spider", they're talking about people like that guy.

That is a very good summary. I may have to view this show.

>When you don't watch game of thrones and don't get the reference

Pls send help or IM

Basically Littlefinger is a slimy, whore-mongering- greedy, border-line sociopathic, constantly back-stabbing snake who noone fucking likes.
Also he might be a pedo.

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CM in for the kill

[Galloism]

>When you don't watch game of thrones and don't get the reference

Pls send help or IM

Basically Littlefinger is a slimy, whore-mongering- greedy, border-line sociopathic, constantly back-stabbing snake who noone fucking likes.
Also he might be a pedo.

I kinda liked him personally, but that's because I thought eventually circumstances would arise where he would arrange for King Justin Bieber's (aka, Joffrey's) death when it became practical.

I haven't seen anything past season 3.

[The East Marches II]

>When you don't watch game of thrones and don't get the reference

Pls send help or IM

Acquire taste first

I only like detective shows pls no bully, I'm aware I have no taste.

[Genivaria]

Basically Littlefinger is a slimy, whore-mongering- greedy, border-line sociopathic, constantly back-stabbing snake who noone fucking likes.
Also he might be a pedo.

I kinda liked him personally, but that's because I thought eventually circumstances would arise where he would arrange for King Justin Bieber's (aka, Joffrey's) death when it became practical.

I haven't seen anything past season 3.

Then I shall say NOTHING.

[New haven america]

Acquire taste first

I only like detective shows pls no bully, I'm aware I have no taste.

Go sit in the corner and think about your tastelessness.

[Conserative Morality]

At least he was fucking consistent.
None of the nobles were like "No you can't take him there's nothing wrong with what he did you're just being a tyrant!"
No instead they were like "It doesn't matter what we do we're fucking nobles you filthy peasant."

Not inspiring of sympathy.

What's that CS Lewis quote?

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

That is a very good summary. I may have to view this show.

It's actually very good, very political. Though the 'sexposition' got old real fast.

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CM in for the kill

See previous clarification on the TRUE nature of Littlefinger.

also yeah he might be a pedo but Sansa is legal IRL

[Valyrian Freeholds]

Should we just rename this to "GoT Discussion Thread"?

[Conserative Morality]

Should we just rename this to "GoT Discussion Thread"?

I-it's relevant, I was making a comparison!

[Genivaria]

At least he was fucking consistent.
None of the nobles were like "No you can't take him there's nothing wrong with what he did you're just being a tyrant!"
No instead they were like "It doesn't matter what we do we're fucking nobles you filthy peasant."

Not inspiring of sympathy.

What's that CS Lewis quote?

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.

That is a very good summary. I may have to view this show.

It's actually very good, very political. Though the 'sexposition' got old real fast.

B T F O
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CM in for the kill

See previous clarification on the TRUE nature of Littlefinger.

also yeah he might be a pedo but Sansa is legal IRL

Oh don't get me wrong I still have nothing but contempt for theocracy.
But speaking of the characters that made up the Sparrows they were consistent in their beliefs.
It says alot that Martin made the nobilty of the realm so utterly shit that theocracy actually started to sound appealing to people.

[Genivaria]

Should we just rename this to "GoT Discussion Thread"?

I-it's relevant, I was making a comparison!

*pokes CM*
Hey, hey CM.
Doesn't that make you the new Infected Mushroom?

*snickers*

[Conserative Morality]

*pokes CM*
Hey, hey CM.
Doesn't that make you the new Infected Mushroom?

*snickers*

Mods help i am being flamed a joke mods pls no bully Geni

[Washington Resistance Army]

I-it's relevant, I was making a comparison!

*pokes CM*
Hey, hey CM.
Doesn't that make you the new Infected Mushroom?

*snickers*

I think you're crossing a line with that one, tbh

[Senkaku]

I mean

TEM: I don't support Trump
Also TEM: *argues in favor of Trump and his policies constantly*

I don't think he does. Opposition to progressive idealists like me does not necessarily imply support for Trump or his policies. From what I've seen TEM is very focused on Realpolitik and American prosperity, even at the detriment of everyone else. He has a "What can we, as a nation, get out of this" kind of attitude.

No, TEM only thinks he's focused on realpolitik. I don't think he actually grasps what it is, based on his complete lack of any interest or vision when it comes to soft power of any form. The Littlefinger comparison is thus unfair- TEM doesn't have a grasp on the subtleties of politics that Littlefinger does. He's more like Cersei, in that he only understands hard power and is bad at thinking out the implications of his (proposed, thankfully) moves.

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TEM: I don't support Trump
Also TEM: *argues in favor of Trump and his policies constantly*

Slowdown, I'm not the one with a love affair with the security state. Neither do I cry about dehumanizing the Russian people. If anybody is a Trump support it is you and your Russian sympathizing ways.

Last I checked I didn't support the Russian government and I don't see what this has to do with anything, I give 1.5/10 for this poor attempt at a "no u" meme

[Senkaku]

Should we just rename this to "GoT Discussion Thread"?

Frankly I think all of us would be happier talking about Game of Thrones than about the utter clusterfuckery of our country's politics It's a fun series

[Galloism]

Betsy DeVos dispatched to North Korea.

WASHINGTON — Education Secretary Betsy DeVos is being dispatched to Pyongyang in what the White House is calling a high-stakes mission to reverse North Korea’s years of progress in math and science.

DeVos, who is expected to arrive in Pyongyang later this week, plans to throw a monkey wrench in North Korea’s swiftly advancing nuclear program by replacing its current system of training scientists with a dizzying array of vouchers, sources said.

According to the White House, it is hoped that, after a few weeks in North Korea, DeVos will succeed in returning that nation’s nuclear program to pre-1970 levels.

At a press briefing announcing the mission, the White House deputy press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, called DeVos “our nation’s best bet to stop North Korea.”

“If anyone can get North Korea’s missiles to start blowing up on the launchpad again, it’s Betsy,” Sanders said.

[Salandriagado]

....Is crown prosecutor a rank in the Russian judicial system? I can't find it exact in the news about this.

Either he misspoke or the person just said an official looking rank and he believed it.

Nope. You can tell by how they don't have a crown to be a prosecutor for.

Courts have interpreted "enemies" in the Treason Clause as those in a state of "open hositlity" with the United States. It's a little ambiguous whether we actually have to be at war.

See Stephan v. U.S., 133 F.2d 87 (6th Cir. 1943).

http://www.realclearworld.com/articles/ ... 12267.html

NO.

Erm, yes: in particular, the US is not formally at war with ISIS, but assisting ISIS in carrying out a terrorist attack is still treason.

[Galloism]

Should we just rename this to "GoT Discussion Thread"?

Frankly I think all of us would be happier talking about Game of Thrones than about the utter clusterfuckery of our country's politics It's a fun series

Well, it has a more stable and sensible government.

[Valyrian Freeholds]

Should we just rename this to "GoT Discussion Thread"?

Frankly I think all of us would be happier talking about Game of Thrones than about the utter clusterfuckery of our country's politics It's a fun series

Hey it's YOUR country, don't push your toxic shit onto the scot

[Conserative Morality]

No, TEM only thinks he's focused on realpolitik. I don't think he actually grasps what it is, based on his complete lack of any interest or vision when it comes to soft power of any form. The Littlefinger comparison is thus unfair- TEM doesn't have a grasp on the subtleties of politics that Littlefinger does. He's more like Cersei, in that he only understands hard power and is bad at thinking out the implications of his (proposed, thankfully) moves.

I think you're reading the surface instead of the depths of the lake here. TEM understands realpolitik and soft power in economic and diplomatic terms. He just doesn't see the spread of cultural influence the way anyway LOOKING AT THE WORLD FOR A BRIEF MOMENT WOULD. His suggestions for action, stripped of the blunt, biting tone, aren't that far off from actual policies pursued by other countries.

Not to mention that he's not always 100% serious. He's not the devil's advocate. He's Satan's personal attorney.

[Galloism]

Twitter users file lawsuit against Donald Trump.

WASHINGTON — A group of Twitter users blocked by President Trump sued him and two top White House aides on Tuesday, arguing that his account amounts to a public forum that he, as a government official, cannot bar people from.

The blocked Twitter users, represented by the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University, raised cutting-edge issues about how the Constitution applies to the social media era. They say Mr. Trump cannot bar people from engaging with his account because they expressed opinions he did not like, such as mocking or criticizing him.

“The @realDonaldTrump account is a kind of digital town hall in which the president and his aides use the tweet function to communicate news and information to the public, and members of the public use the reply function to respond to the president and his aides and exchange views with one another,” the lawsuit said.

By blocking people from reading his tweets, or from viewing and replying to message chains based on them, Mr. Trump is violating their First Amendment rights because they expressed views he did not like, the lawsuit argued.

It offered several theories to back that notion. They included arguments that Mr. Trump was imposing an unconstitutional restriction on the plaintiffs’ ability to participate in a designated public forum, get access to statements the government had otherwise made available to the public and petition the government for “redress of grievances.”

Filed in Federal District Court for the Southern District of New York, the lawsuit also names Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, and Dan Scavino, Mr. Trump’s director of social media, as defendants. It seeks a declaration that Mr. Trump’s blocking of the plaintiffs was unconstitutional, an injunction requiring him to unblock them and prohibiting him from blocking others for the views they express, and legal fees.

The Knight First Amendment Institute, directed by Jameel Jaffer, also joined the lawsuit as a plaintiff although its Twitter account had not been blocked by Mr. Trump. It argued that it had a First Amendment right to hear from people who had been blocked and are barred from participating in the “forum” of message chains based on his postings.

The lawsuit was foreshadowed last month by a letter the Knight First Amendment Institute sent to Mr. Trump on behalf of two of the now-plaintiffs asking him to unblock their accounts, but the White House did not do so.

News of the letter, and the novel legal arguments it advanced, touched off a debate among legal specialists, with some supporting the idea and others expressing skepticism. The skeptics argued, among other things, that Mr. Trump’s account was personal, not official; that he had the same right to block people he considered trolls as anyone else; and that the injury to blocked people was minor since they could still view his postings as long as they did not log in to Twitter under their own accounts.

The Knight First Amendment Institute sought to address and rebut such critiques in a lengthy blog posting later last month, and its complaint noted that since its letter, the Trump White House has taken several steps suggesting that the administration considers his Twitter account to be an official channel.

For example, Mr. Trump announced his nomination of Christopher A. Wray as F.B.I. director on Twitter, and the White House sent a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee pointing to Mr. Trump’s denial on Twitter that he had taped his conversations with the former F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, as an answer to the panel’s questions about that matter.

“My use of social media is not Presidential — it’s MODERN DAY PRESIDENTIAL,” Mr. Trump tweeted on July 1.

Also since the early June letter, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that a North Carolina law barring convicted sex offenders from using Twitter or Facebook violated the First Amendment.

Justice Anthony M. Kennedy, writing for a five-justice majority, said the law violated the First Amendment because social media had become “the modern-day public square.” Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., joined by two other justices, concurred with the result but expressed reservations that Justice Kennedy’s language was too sweeping and loose.

Since then, several other blocked users from around the country have joined the effort. They include Rebecca Buckwalter, a fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress, whose account was blocked after she responded to a tweet by Mr. Trump on June 6 in which he disparaged the “fake news” media and said he would not have won the election if he relied on it.

She replied, “To be fair you didn’t win the WH: Russia won it for you” — and she was blocked by Mr. Trump’s account.

[Conserative Morality]

Twitter users file lawsuit against Donald Trump.

I hope they win.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I really don't see the Twitter lawsuit going anywhere, tbh.

[Galloism]

I really don't see the Twitter lawsuit going anywhere, tbh.

It might. When Sean Spicer (and later Donald Trump) stated (then inferred) that his twitter account was an official presidential channel of communication with the country, his twitter account might have become an official public forum, and you can't ban people from an official public forum based on political views.

It's debatable, but there's some basis to it.

[New haven america]

Here's a fun game, figure out which one of Gallo's posts is satire or not, without clicking or hovering over the links.