Trump MAGAthread VII

[Traditional Conservative Hellas]

Everyone says Trump is bad, I haven't seen any bad thing he has done during his presidency, but that doesn't mean I support me

[Vassenor]

I think it depends on how you take the NRA's statements in some ads. If you take them as subtle threats for violence against you, then that can be considered intimidation for political means, i.e. definitionally terrorism.

The question is whether making the threats or acting on the threats is more terroristy.

Terroistic Threats is a felony, IIRC.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The question is whether making the threats or acting on the threats is more terroristy.

Terroistic Threats is a felony, IIRC.

Indeed it is, but I think most everybody in the legal system would agree the NRA's statements are not threats.

[Proctopeo]

The question is whether making the threats or acting on the threats is more terroristy.

Terroistic Threats is a felony, IIRC.

And I assume acting on it also includes whatever crimes you commit while acting on it, plus the threat felony.
So, using that to answer my own question, probably the latter, because it's more crimes. If we do assume that the NRA's statement could be seen as such, I think Antifa still comes out on top.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Everyone says Trump is bad, I haven't seen any bad thing he has done during his presidency, but that doesn't mean I support me

Pretty much everything he's said or done regarding climate change is pretty shitty.

[Valrifell]

Terroistic Threats is a felony, IIRC.

Indeed it is, but I think most everybody in the legal system would agree the NRA's statements are not threats.

Oh, sure, because there's room to wiggle out of it because what they're saying often isn't clear. The fact that they can take a threatening tone is still indicative of a super-tribal mentality that isn't going to help them in any way.

[Michael Johnathan]

There are a couple of examples where both clearly showed a bias against Trump and it affected the accuracy of some of their stories.

I know. It's a joke.
Basically every news source has bashed Trump at some point for something. All that's different is to what degree.

I understand that. I'm merely pointing out there exists a media bias, and Trump playing that card is smart. It plays to his base and they matter most (to him at least).

[Valrifell]

Terroistic Threats is a felony, IIRC.

And I assume acting on it also includes whatever crimes you commit while acting on it, plus the threat felony.
So, using that to answer my own question, probably the latter, because it's more crimes. If we do assume that the NRA's statement could be seen as such, I think Antifa still comes out on top.

Well, duh. They're actually going about and committing crimes and fearmongering for a political goal, at least some of their chapters are.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Indeed it is, but I think most everybody in the legal system would agree the NRA's statements are not threats.

Oh, sure, because there's room to wiggle out of it because what they're saying often isn't clear. The fact that they can take a threatening tone is still indicative of a super-tribal mentality that isn't going to help them in any way.

It seems pretty clear to me, tbh. It's just been a bunch of hate towards muh fake news.

[The Huskar Social Union]

We're on page 502! Get fucking rekt Nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrd! WHERE IS YOUR WALL DONALD! WHERE IS YOUR WALL!

[West Phoenicia]

The Republicans have set a clear precedent that when there's a vacancy on the Supreme Court, you have to wait until a new president is elected before filling it, so that the people can have their say. So no new justices until 2021.

Isnt that only during a period of election or when one president is leaving and the other coming to take over. Not during the first year of a new presidents term. Thats silly otherwise.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The Republicans have set a clear precedent that when there's a vacancy on the Supreme Court, you have to wait until a new president is elected before filling it, so that the people can have their say. So no new justices until 2021.

Isnt that only during a period of election or when one president is leaving and the other coming to take over. Not during the first year of a new presidents term. Thats silly otherwise.

It's not a thing at all. It was just a risky gamble that the GOP took and it paid off. They aren't going to pass up an opportunity to appoint more Justices next year when Kennedy is gone and they especially won't pass up a chance to replace RBG if or when she dies.

[Michael Johnathan]

The Republicans have set a clear precedent that when there's a vacancy on the Supreme Court, you have to wait until a new president is elected before filling it, so that the people can have their say. So no new justices until 2021.

Isnt that only during a period of election or when one president is leaving and the other coming to take over. Not during the first year of a new presidents term. Thats silly otherwise.

Actually, I think that precedent was set with Joe Biden during the end of Bush Sr's term and with Clinton moving in.

[Michael Johnathan]

Isnt that only during a period of election or when one president is leaving and the other coming to take over. Not during the first year of a new presidents term. Thats silly otherwise.

It's not a thing at all. It was just a risky gamble that the GOP took and it paid off. They aren't going to pass up an opportunity to appoint more Justices next year when Kennedy is gone and they especially won't pass up a chance to replace RBG if or when she dies.

Joe Biden strikes again!

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's not a thing at all. It was just a risky gamble that the GOP took and it paid off. They aren't going to pass up an opportunity to appoint more Justices next year when Kennedy is gone and they especially won't pass up a chance to replace RBG if or when she dies.

Joe Biden strikes again!

Huh, I didn't know about that. That's pretty god damn amusing.

[Conserative Morality]

This is true, the NRA of today is far more politically active and does a lot more to defend gun rights.

Shame they couldn't kill the NFA in it's entirety back then.

Are you joking right now? Am I on candid camera?

[Washington Resistance Army]

This is true, the NRA of today is far more politically active and does a lot more to defend gun rights.

Shame they couldn't kill the NFA in it's entirety back then.

Are you joking right now? Am I on candid camera?

Nope.

[Conserative Morality]

It's not a thing at all. It was just a risky gamble that the GOP took and it paid off. They aren't going to pass up an opportunity to appoint more Justices next year when Kennedy is gone and they especially won't pass up a chance to replace RBG if or when she dies.

Joe Biden strikes again!

TIL "Nominate a candidate after the election is finished" = "Block a nominated candidate until the next president is sworn in"

But partisanship knows no reason. Or basic comprehension of any sort, really.

[Conserative Morality]

Nope.

Then evidently someone who is supposedly very into guns and supports the NRA has very little knowledge of their history beyond the mythologizing of the organization itself.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Nope.

Then evidently someone who is supposedly very into guns and supports the NRA has very little knowledge of their history beyond the mythologizing of the organization itself.

By all means, elaborate.

[Ism]

But this isn't doing anything to protect or advance people's gun rights. This is just kissing the President's ass.

Indeed it isn't, which is why I don't support or bother watching any of that nonsense. But I'm going to remain an NRA member as long as the Dems keep trying to ban all my guns.

Ah yes, the evil Dems are coming "fer muh gunz". They're not, but it's a nice rallying cry I suppose.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Indeed it isn't, which is why I don't support or bother watching any of that nonsense. But I'm going to remain an NRA member as long as the Dems keep trying to ban all my guns.

Ah yes, the evil Dems are coming "fer muh gunz". They're not, but it's a nice rallying cry I suppose.

Saying they're not when they have things like "assault weapons" bans written into their party platform doesn't really work, tbh.

[Ifreann]

Terroistic Threats is a felony, IIRC.

Indeed it is, but I think most everybody in the legal system would agree the NRA's statements are not threats.

They clearly are threats, but threats to do what? I imagine they'd say they're threatening to keep making videos about the New York Times and how they're totes hashtag-fake-news until and unless they stop being hashtag-fake-news.

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The Republicans have set a clear precedent that when there's a vacancy on the Supreme Court, you have to wait until a new president is elected before filling it, so that the people can have their say. So no new justices until 2021.

Isnt that only during a period of election or when one president is leaving and the other coming to take over. Not during the first year of a new presidents term. Thats silly otherwise.

Of course it's silly. The whole fucking situation was silly.

[Conserative Morality]

Then evidently someone who is supposedly very into guns and supports the NRA has very little knowledge of their history beyond the mythologizing of the organization itself.

By all means, elaborate.

The NRA was a solid supporter of most gun control legislation and was largely an organization for (gasp!) people who owned and used rifles in their day-to-day lives until the late 70s when all the survivalists and other anti-government paranoiacs with their dicks in their AR-15s that they don't understand the utility of took over.

[Washington Resistance Army]

By all means, elaborate.

The NRA was a solid supporter of most gun control legislation and was largely an organization for (gasp!) people who owned and used rifles in their day-to-day lives until the late 70s when all the survivalists and other anti-government paranoiacs with their dicks in their AR-15s that they don't understand the utility of took over.

Indeed, and that doesn't conflict at all with what I said.