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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:28 pm

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Oh, it's not very high. He's far more likely to go down in a shameful resignation.

He'd have to be the dumbest man on the planet to try and fight something like this if he's super-guilty.

Whoa, let's clarify our terms here: impeachment only means the House has brought charges against him.

How about if Trump sticks it out until they do, and then resigns before the Senate has trial?


Well, Nixon being the obvious closest example, he didn't stick around for impeachment to happen. Once he realized the impeachment and conviction were inevitable, he jumped ship.

I also don't see the benefit for anyone if he gets impeached but doesn't stay around for the conviction. Republicans would still be forced to go through some kind of internal conflict over whether or not to let it get as far as impeachment, and Trump... well he'd be fucked no matter what if he's super-guilty.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:28 pm

Frenequesta wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Oh, it's not very high. He's far more likely to go down in a shameful resignation.

He'd have to be the dumbest man on the planet to try and fight something like this if he's super-guilty.

Whoa, let's clarify our terms here: impeachment only means the House has brought charges against him.

How about if Trump sticks it out until they do, and then resigns before the Senate has trial?

Personally I hope he's stupid enough to fight to the end so when he gets convicted and removed everyone can chant "YOU'RE FIRED!" at him repeatedly.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:30 pm

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Frenequesta wrote:Whoa, let's clarify our terms here: impeachment only means the House has brought charges against him.

How about if Trump sticks it out until they do, and then resigns before the Senate has trial?

Personally I hope he's stupid enough to fight to the end so when he gets convicted and removed everyone can chant "YOU'RE FIRED!" at him repeatedly.


Come on, you don't have to get a conviction to do that.

You just have to wait until 2020. :P
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:31 pm

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Gauthier wrote:Personally I hope he's stupid enough to fight to the end so when he gets convicted and removed everyone can chant "YOU'RE FIRED!" at him repeatedly.


Come on, you don't have to get a conviction to do that.

You just have to wait until 2020. :P

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:31 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Personally I hope he's stupid enough to fight to the end so when he gets convicted and removed everyone can chant "YOU'RE FIRED!" at him repeatedly.


Come on, you don't have to get a conviction to do that.

You just have to wait until 2020. :P

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:31 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Personally I hope he's stupid enough to fight to the end so when he gets convicted and removed everyone can chant "YOU'RE FIRED!" at him repeatedly.


Come on, you don't have to get a conviction to do that.

You just have to wait until 2020. :P


I'll be frank. It hasn't been a year yet of him taking office and I feel like it's been a decade. I don't think I can stand his idiocy and that of his administration until 2020. This is like an eternal peyote trip. It never ends. ;__;
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Come on, you don't have to get a conviction to do that.

You just have to wait until 2020. :P


I'll be frank. It hasn't been a year yet of him taking office and I feel like it's been a decade. I don't think I can stand his idiocy and that of his administration until 2020. This is like an eternal peyote trip. It never ends. ;__;


The laughter helps.

I'd say that the cure for Trump's stupid are distractions, but that's what he wants. And we can't let him win, unfortunately.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:35 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I'll be frank. It hasn't been a year yet of him taking office and I feel like it's been a decade. I don't think I can stand his idiocy and that of his administration until 2020. This is like an eternal peyote trip. It never ends. ;__;


The laughter helps.

I'd say that the cure for Trump's stupid are distractions, but that's what he wants. And we can't let him win, unfortunately.


Believe me, I try. I often succeed. But sometimes the stupid trickles into my lovely bubble and I asphyxiate with Trump cordyceps dust.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The laughter helps.

I'd say that the cure for Trump's stupid are distractions, but that's what he wants. And we can't let him win, unfortunately.


Believe me, I try. I often succeed. But sometimes the stupid trickles into my lovely bubble and I asphyxiate with Trump cordyceps covfefe dust.

Fixed.
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The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:44 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Eyy, grand jury.

Pence 2017!

I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows
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Postby The Flutterlands » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:44 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Eyy, grand jury.

Pence 2017!

I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows

Yes. That is the case...
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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:46 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Eyy, grand jury.

Pence 2017!

I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows


With any lucky Jr. will take Daddy down with him.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:47 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows

Yes. That is the case...

Though it's entirely possible that the president does something stupidly illegal to get Jr out of trouble
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:47 pm

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows


With any lucky Jr. will take Daddy down with him.

Anytime someone says Trump could never x...
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:48 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Yes. That is the case...

Though it's entirely possible that the president does something stupidly illegal to get Jr out of trouble


He could, likely, already be impeached with an obstruction of justice charge. That's the House's favorite charge to go with, anyway.

In fact, if Democrats had control of the House, I wouldn't doubt it if they'd be seriously drafting articles of impeachment based on obstruction of justice.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:52 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Eyy, grand jury.

Pence 2017!

I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows

Who in the world (keeping in mind that impeachment proceedings very much takes place in court of public opinion) will believe trump jr and campaign manager went to meet a source without telling Trump about it?
Plus pretty sure you could get Trump to confessing by questioning who'd be so dumb as to not know whats going on in their campaign/ what doesn't trump know about his family or white house. Next day he'll tweet saying he knows everything that his employees do and what happens in white house.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:53 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Believe me, I try. I often succeed. But sometimes the stupid trickles into my lovely bubble and I asphyxiate with Trump cordyceps covfefe dust.

Fixed.


I hate Trump's politics as much as the next person, but the Russia and 'covfefe' jokes are getting rather tiresome.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:54 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Fixed.


I hate Trump's politics as much as the next person, but the Russia and 'covfefe' jokes are getting rather tiresome.


He's not really been giving us any great stand-out material as of late. Either he's gotten smarter or we've been desensitized. And I refuse to accept the former as a possibility.

We could go back to some classics like "Trump U" and stuff like that.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:59 pm

Valrifell wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
I hate Trump's politics as much as the next person, but the Russia and 'covfefe' jokes are getting rather tiresome.


He's not really been giving us any great stand-out material as of late. Either he's gotten smarter or we've been desensitized. And I refuse to accept the former as a possibility.

We could go back to some classics like "Trump U" and stuff like that.


He's been more incompetent than absurdly incompetent in recent weeks. It's just that every time I hear "Russia" or "covfefe", I immediately imagine a late night talk show's studio audience laughing like a bunch of mindless seals. It's starting to come across as this neurotic mental loop that liberals have. I would prefer that the left creates a broad message for the American people that contrasts us to Trump and then maybe have all of the jokes as a simple cherry on top. Most people don't care about covfefe. People do care about their well-being though.
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Postby Seangoli » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:01 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows

Who in the world (keeping in mind that impeachment proceedings very much takes place in court of public opinion) will believe trump jr and campaign manager went to meet a source without telling Trump about it?
Plus pretty sure you could get Trump to confessing by questioning who'd be so dumb as to not know whats going on in their campaign/ what doesn't trump know about his family or white house. Next day he'll tweet saying he knows everything that his employees do and what happens in white house.



If I were forced to make a guess on how this is going to go down, I would assume Trump dives in the way of his son getting Charged with a preemptive pardon (or worze, a pardon after enough illegal shit is known).

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:01 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He's not really been giving us any great stand-out material as of late. Either he's gotten smarter or we've been desensitized. And I refuse to accept the former as a possibility.

We could go back to some classics like "Trump U" and stuff like that.


He's been more incompetent than absurdly incompetent in recent weeks. It's just that every time I hear "Russia" or "covfefe", I immediately imagine a late night talk show's studio audience laughing like a bunch of mindless seals. It's starting to come across as this neurotic mental loop that liberals have. I would prefer that the left creates a broad message for the American people that contrasts us to Trump and then maybe have all of the jokes as a simple cherry on top. Most people don't care about covfefe. People do care about their well-being though.


You're talking to randies online, brosky, we don't exactly care how our messaging comes off to outside observers looking in. We're not the Democratic Party, you know.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:03 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm thinking that it's only for Jr and not the president but who knows

Who in the world (keeping in mind that impeachment proceedings very much takes place in court of public opinion) will believe trump jr and campaign manager went to meet a source without telling Trump about it?
Plus pretty sure you could get Trump to confessing by questioning who'd be so dumb as to not know whats going on in their campaign/ what doesn't trump know about his family or white house. Next day he'll tweet saying he knows everything that his employees do and what happens in white house.


Funny you should say that, because that's exactly the defense that many in Trump's circle are putting forth--that Trump is too uncoordinated to have systematically colluded with the Russians.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:03 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Who in the world (keeping in mind that impeachment proceedings very much takes place in court of public opinion) will believe trump jr and campaign manager went to meet a source without telling Trump about it?
Plus pretty sure you could get Trump to confessing by questioning who'd be so dumb as to not know whats going on in their campaign/ what doesn't trump know about his family or white house. Next day he'll tweet saying he knows everything that his employees do and what happens in white house.



If I were forced to make a guess on how this is going to go down, I would assume Trump dives in the way of his son getting Charged with a preemptive pardon (or worze, a pardon after enough illegal shit is known).

Nah I think he's going to fire Muller in retaliation
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:03 pm

Valrifell wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
He's been more incompetent than absurdly incompetent in recent weeks. It's just that every time I hear "Russia" or "covfefe", I immediately imagine a late night talk show's studio audience laughing like a bunch of mindless seals. It's starting to come across as this neurotic mental loop that liberals have. I would prefer that the left creates a broad message for the American people that contrasts us to Trump and then maybe have all of the jokes as a simple cherry on top. Most people don't care about covfefe. People do care about their well-being though.


You're talking to randies online, brosky, we don't exactly care how our messaging comes off to outside observers looking in. We're not the Democratic Party, you know.


Sure, but if you watch Stephen Colbert, that's what you're going to get.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:05 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Seangoli wrote:

If I were forced to make a guess on how this is going to go down, I would assume Trump dives in the way of his son getting Charged with a preemptive pardon (or worze, a pardon after enough illegal shit is known).

Nah I think he's going to fire Muller in retaliation


If Trump fires Mueller, my account will CTE, since I will either be dead or in a permanent vegetative state after facepalming my hand through my fucking skull.
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