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Postby Senkaku » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:22 am

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Senkaku wrote:I always find it ironic when "muh gun rights" ppl are fine with restricting abortion lmao


>implying I want to restrict abortion

Yeah but you're fine with that happening as long as you get yer guns it seems~
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:25 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>implying I want to restrict abortion

Yeah but you're fine with that happening as long as you get yer guns it seems~


>implying the courts could actually restrict abortion in a meaningful way without some serious constitutional changes
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:29 am

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Senkaku wrote:Yeah but you're fine with that happening as long as you get yer guns it seems~


>implying the courts could actually restrict abortion in a meaningful way without some serious constitutional changes


Wouldn't being against the concept of a living document put you against Roe v. Wade by default? Even if only in its procedure?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:31 am

Valrifell wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
>implying the courts could actually restrict abortion in a meaningful way without some serious constitutional changes


Wouldn't being against the concept of a living document put you against Roe v. Wade by default? Even if only in its procedure?


To a point, yes. I'm personally undecided on the case myself but at this point I struggle to see how anyone could create a good enough case to convince the court to abandon stare decisis and actually change their rulings on the topic.
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Postby Athrax » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:39 pm



These are actually worse in some ways than I thought they could be from the early reports. I really hope Trump has gotten at least a bit better at diplomacy since these early forays, because this is just abysmal

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Postby Ism » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:40 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Pizza wins votes.

Who doesn't like pizza?

No True American™, that's for sure.


Pizza is Italian, gtfo.

Real Americans like burgers.


You've never eaten Italian pizza have you? It's, not the same as what's here in the states, which is Italian-American cuisine, rather than Italian (though, a lot of what we call Italian food is more Italian-American).

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Well, I guess I'm burning my passport, then.

Fruits that aren't tomato do not belong on pizzas. It's simple.


What about peppers?

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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:42 pm

Ism wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:Fruits that aren't tomato do not belong on pizzas. It's simple.


What about peppers?

Peppers are less heretical than pineapple because they taste less like fruit, but are still unacceptable. You won't be excommunicated for having peppers on pizza.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:42 pm


But the petty snowflake that is Trump is better for the country because reasons.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:51 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Pizza wins votes.

Who doesn't like pizza?

No True American™, that's for sure.


Pizza is Italian, gtfo.

Real Americans like burgers.


Which are German.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:55 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Pizza is Italian, gtfo.

Real Americans like burgers.


Which are German.


Fake news, the Library of Congress determined that Louis Lassen in New Haven, Connecticut made and started selling them right around 1900.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:55 pm

Astrolinium wrote:Reports that Mueller has established a grand jury.

Also reported in the WSJ (sadly paywalled).

Not entirely sure what this means, but it sounds serious.

Such a move would signal that the investigation is growing and entering a new phase. The special counsel is looking into Russia's efforts to influence the election and any ties between President Trump's campaign and Moscow.

Looks like Bob found something. Shouldn't be long before Trump gets desperate and fires him.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Athrax » Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:57 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:Reports that Mueller has established a grand jury.

Also reported in the WSJ (sadly paywalled).

Not entirely sure what this means, but it sounds serious.

Such a move would signal that the investigation is growing and entering a new phase. The special counsel is looking into Russia's efforts to influence the election and any ties between President Trump's campaign and Moscow.

Looks like Bob found something. Shouldn't be long before Trump gets desperate and fires him.


Saturday Night Massacre when?

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Postby Liriena » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:01 pm

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Postby Athrax » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:02 pm



I can see this passing in the Senate, but I'm pretty doubtful about this getting enough Republican support in the House with the Hastert Rule still in effect

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:02 pm

Athrax wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Looks like Bob found something. Shouldn't be long before Trump gets desperate and fires him.


Saturday Night Massacre when?

Don't forget the hack ads targeting Mueller.

As one comment said, "This nothingburger tastes like prime rib."
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Athrax » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:03 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Athrax wrote:
Saturday Night Massacre when?

Don't forget the hack ads targeting Mueller.

As one comment said, "This nothingburger tastes like prime rib."


:lol2:

I really have to wonder if all of these Republicans who have been making warning sounds about firing Mueller would actually do anything if Trump fired him.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:06 pm

Athrax wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Don't forget the hack ads targeting Mueller.

As one comment said, "This nothingburger tastes like prime rib."


:lol2:

I really have to wonder if all of these Republicans who have been making warning sounds about firing Mueller would actually do anything if Trump fired him.

Of course not.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby UED » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:07 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/west-virginia-governor-to-switch-from-democrat-to-republican-trump.html

Lol this guy is committing political suicide... I mean sure West Virginia is very Pro-Trump but jesus christ the guy has like 33%-38% approval ratings right now and the guy won running as a Dem.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:09 pm

UED wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/west-virginia-governor-to-switch-from-democrat-to-republican-trump.html

Lol this guy is committing political suicide... I mean sure West Virginia is very Pro-Trump but jesus christ the guy has like 33%-38% approval ratings right now and the guy won running as a Dem.

He probably pledged loyalty to Trump, the fool...

Trevor Noah is right, Trump IS the bus.
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The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
Where is your God-Emperor now?

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Postby Athrax » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:10 pm

UED wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/west-virginia-governor-to-switch-from-democrat-to-republican-trump.html

Lol this guy is committing political suicide... I mean sure West Virginia is very Pro-Trump but jesus christ the guy has like 33%-38% approval ratings right now and the guy won running as a Dem.


This seems remarkably poorly timed. Chain yourself to the President with his numbers thoroughly going into the toilet and impeachment in the conversation. Though maybe the WV numbers are way different

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:10 pm

UED wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/west-virginia-governor-to-switch-from-democrat-to-republican-trump.html

Lol this guy is committing political suicide... I mean sure West Virginia is very Pro-Trump but jesus christ the guy has like 33%-38% approval ratings right now and the guy won running as a Dem.


It's probably the right move tbh. Dems in West Virginia are going to be in for very hard races come reelection time.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:20 pm

I love how freaking Rex Tillerson's department isn't even subtle. "We're not taking money to counter Russian propaganda because it would anger Moscow"

Like holy crap.

Also, I feel like Rex Tillerson is going to leave soon. He wanted sanctions lifted. Sanctions are even stronger. Pretty sure all he cared about was trying to help Exxon Mobil with that deal. And now he just seems to be sitting on his ass.
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Postby Athrax » Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:22 pm

Corrian wrote:I love how freaking Rex Tillerson's department isn't even subtle. "We're not taking money to counter Russian propaganda because it would anger Moscow"

Like holy crap.

Also, I feel like Rex Tillerson is going to leave soon. He wanted sanctions lifted. Sanctions are even stronger. Pretty sure all he cared about was trying to help Exxon Mobil with that deal. And now he just seems to be sitting on his ass.


He's basically killing the State Department right now. Nothing can get done for the lack of Assistant and Under Secretaries. They claim it's because they're doing a restructuring, but there's no way they could cut the positions dealing with entire world regions, such as Europe. He's gotten off easy being portrayed as an adult in the room, but I find it hard to forgive him for this

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