Bernie will be almost 80, iirc.
Way too old.
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by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:18 pm
by Liriena » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:19 pm
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by Steffan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:20 pm
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by Hittanryan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:21 pm
Idzequitch wrote:Corrian wrote:Anyone notice, and it isn't ENTIRELY the case, but a lot of the countries with the highest tax rates are also the ones typically rated the happiest citizens and best places to live? Like Iceland for example.
One thing worth noting there though, is Iceland is small. They have less than half a million people. It's a lot easier for them to take care of their people with minimal bureaucracy, and even then, I think they'd be okay if Papa Gov't wasn't there to do everything for them.
The USA has literally 100x more people than Iceland. You get one government meddling in the affairs of 325 million people, and it's gonna be chaos. So to me, what this suggests is that governing should be the responsibility of the lowest level of government that can handle it. So when it gets to the federal government, they're only handling things that state and local government cannot, such as national defense.
And also, taxation is theft. Had to be said
by New haven america » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:23 pm
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by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:24 pm
by New haven america » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:24 pm
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by Liriena » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:26 pm
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by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:26 pm
by Salus Maior » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:27 pm
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by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:28 pm
by Steffan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:28 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:30 pm
Steffan wrote:Ooooo...packed news day.
North Korean missile launch was indeed an ICMB:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/politics/ ... index.html
Ok, let's be serious: does anyone expect that once NK has a reliable ICBM, that they'll actually use it?
I say "No"
by Salus Maior » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:30 pm
by Corrian » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:30 pm
Corrian wrote:Honestly I'd trust Bernie's health at 79 more then Trump's health at 74 (75?) next election.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Liriena wrote:Warren? Warren would do almost as well as Bernie, according to polls.
Maybe Gabbard, since she was part of the Bernie bandwagon... but her progressive credentials are murkier than Warren's.
Wasn't there a poll showing Warren getting beat by Trump in the general?
by Idzequitch » Fri Jul 28, 2017 1:30 pm
Hittanryan wrote:Idzequitch wrote:One thing worth noting there though, is Iceland is small. They have less than half a million people. It's a lot easier for them to take care of their people with minimal bureaucracy, and even then, I think they'd be okay if Papa Gov't wasn't there to do everything for them.
The USA has literally 100x more people than Iceland. You get one government meddling in the affairs of 325 million people, and it's gonna be chaos. So to me, what this suggests is that governing should be the responsibility of the lowest level of government that can handle it. So when it gets to the federal government, they're only handling things that state and local government cannot, such as national defense.
And also, taxation is theft. Had to be said
The lower the level of government, the easier it is to fall prey to corruption. A state legislator is cheaper to buy than a federal one, and a local elected official is even cheaper than that. My hometown is small and rural. Local government is amateur hour. No one knows what the hell they're doing. Political decisions are based on whether a family member can profit off of it. For years our town supervisor was a tenth grade dropout. They've built buildings backwards. The local newspaper is a partisan rag which runs full-page attack ads on private citizens, refuses to print letters to the editor that disagree with the editor, and only ever gets one side of every story. Their biggest failure was falling for a con artist real estate developer who doesn't have any money of his own and wants to use taxpayer dollars to build second homes.
I have absolutely no faith in local government.
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