Trump MAGAthread VII

by **Seangoli** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:43 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Tbqh I think shit like this will just make it worse, if a quick glance at right leaning communities I'm a part of is any indication. People are actually calling for his head and wanting to vote out all 3 of them.

Well, this is McCain's last term, so for him this is the end of the road, and he knows it. Conservatives cannot touch him anymore.

Murkowski could be in a rough situation in 2022, but her constituents probably will re-elect her even as a write in because of this move. Apparently her move was popular enough in her home state to make a difference.

The only one that's vulnerable is Collins, but we'll see.

Murkowski is both principled and is playing the long game. She is smart enough to know that a fucking lot can change over the course of 6 years, and it's very possible the entire narrative will have shifted in a completely different direction. Voted against today only to come around and work out a better deal tomorrow is a lot easier of a sell to her constituents in six years than devastating the healthcare system and trying to pick up the mess.

Not to mention she likely is doing what is best for her state, and fuck the polls.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Well, this is McCain's last term, so for him this is the end of the road, and he knows it. Conservatives cannot touch him anymore.

Murkowski could be in a rough situation in 2022, but her constituents probably will re-elect her even as a write in because of this move. Apparently her move was popular enough in her home state to make a difference.

The only one that's vulnerable is Collins, but we'll see.

Either way, fuck John McCain.

I'm fucking pissed the mandate stays >_>

I disagree with the mandate, don't get me wrong.

I just don't see how the Republicans thought that THIS was the way to deal with it.

by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:44 pm

Just to break down his tweet..

3 Republicans and 48 Democrats let the American people down.

No, 51% of the vote.. sometimes getting more votes actually results in a win

As I said from the beginning, let ObamaCare implode, then deal.

No, you really didn't, you said you would replace immediately on coming into office with something awesome, then you said repeal and replace later, then you said let it implode, then you said you need a vote now, then...

Watch!

Unfortunately we can't tear ourselves away..

by **Seangoli** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:45 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Well, this is McCain's last term, so for him this is the end of the road, and he knows it. Conservatives cannot touch him anymore.

Murkowski could be in a rough situation in 2022, but her constituents probably will re-elect her even as a write in because of this move. Apparently her move was popular enough in her home state to make a difference.

The only one that's vulnerable is Collins, but we'll see.

Either way, fuck John McCain.

I'm fucking pissed the mandate stays >_>

It has to, else the healthcare system would implode almost overnight to a point even worse than what seems to be going on now. Even the mere concept of repealing the mandate would likely create chaos in the healthcare industry as uncertainty abounds towards whether or not they can afford to stay open at all, let alone long enough for the utterly dysfunctional Republican party to sort their shit out.

by **The Black Forrest** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:48 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Well, this is McCain's last term, so for him this is the end of the road, and he knows it. Conservatives cannot touch him anymore.

Murkowski could be in a rough situation in 2022, but her constituents probably will re-elect her even as a write in because of this move. Apparently her move was popular enough in her home state to make a difference.

The only one that's vulnerable is Collins, but we'll see.

Either way, fuck John McCain.

I'm fucking pissed the mandate stays >_>

Nahhh. McCain has is problems but he did right.

You should be saying fuck the republicans. They had how much time to design their own after all that effort to repeal the ACA?

by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:48 pm

McCain released a statement..

I hate Obamacare as much as you do guys but..

by **Godular** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:48 pm

Bombadil wrote:3 Republicans and 48 Democrats let the American people down. As I said from the beginning, let ObamaCare implode, then deal. Watch!

He's awake..

49 republicans were held from fucking things up. Huzzah.

by **The Black Forrest** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:49 pm

Seangoli wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Either way, fuck John McCain.

I'm fucking pissed the mandate stays >_>

It has to, else the healthcare system would implode almost overnight to a point even worse than what seems to be going on now. Even the mere concept of repealing the mandate would likely create chaos in the healthcare industry as uncertainty abounds towards whether or not they can afford to stay open at all, let alone long enough for the utterly dysfunctional Republican party to sort their shit out.

That's what they wanted. The comments about this would keep the discussions going were simply lies.

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:50 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Either way, fuck John McCain.

I'm fucking pissed the mandate stays >_>

I disagree with the mandate, don't get me wrong.

I just don't see how the Republicans thought that THIS was the way to deal with it.

I dunno, I'm just mad right now. I wish the court ruled this nonsense was unconstitutional back in the day.

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Either way, fuck John McCain.

I'm fucking pissed the mandate stays >_>

Nahhh. McCain has is problems but he did right.

You should be saying fuck the republicans. They had how much time to design their own after all that effort to repeal the ACA?

Fuck McCain and fuck the Democrats for creating the mandate in the first place. Fuck all of them actually, I'm suddenly reminded why I hate our damn government.

by **Galloism** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:51 pm

Bombadil wrote:McCain released a statement..

I hate Obamacare as much as you do guys but..

That statement was prepared days ago at least. He knew exactly what was going to happen today.

He knew. He pretended to himhaw around and listen to everyone, but he knew.

by **The Black Forrest** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:52 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck McCain and fuck the Democrats for creating the mandate in the first place. Fuck all of them actually, I'm suddenly reminded why I hate our damn government.

*shrugs* Guess the repubs should have done that bipartisan thing instead of lamenting about it now.

Own three branches of government can can't even deliver something.

by **Galloism** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:53 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
I disagree with the mandate, don't get me wrong.

I just don't see how the Republicans thought that THIS was the way to deal with it.

I dunno, I'm just mad right now. I wish the court ruled this nonsense was unconstitutional back in the day.

The Black Forrest wrote:
Nahhh. McCain has is problems but he did right.

You should be saying fuck the republicans. They had how much time to design their own after all that effort to repeal the ACA?

Fuck McCain and fuck the Democrats for creating the mandate in the first place. Fuck all of them actually, I'm suddenly reminded why I hate our damn government.

It'd be really hard for the court to rule the mandate unconstitutional without also wiping out large swaths of deductions and credits in the tax code, given they function roughly identically legally.

by **The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:53 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Fuck McCain and fuck the Democrats for creating the mandate in the first place. Fuck all of them actually, I'm suddenly reminded why I hate our damn government.

*shrugs* Guess the repubs should have done that bipartisan thing instead of lamenting about it now.

Own three branches of government can can't even deliver something.

Well, that's kind of tough when your bill has a casualty rate.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:54 pm

Bombadil wrote:McCain released a statement..

I hate Obamacare as much as you do guys but..

Everyone hates Obamacare. I hate Obamacare.

The half assed solutions Republicans came up with were not the answer to the problems with Obamacare though.

by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:54 pm

Galloism wrote:
Bombadil wrote:McCain released a statement..

I hate Obamacare as much as you do guys but..

That statement was prepared days ago at least. He knew exactly what was going to happen today.

He knew. He pretended to himhaw around and listen to everyone, but he knew.

He'd told Schumer at 10pm already.. I strongly suspect this was a 'fuck you' aimed squarely at Trump from him.

by **Liriena** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:55 pm

Oh, the kids at /r/the_Donald are soooooo salty right now. I love it. :3

by **Godular** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:56 pm

Liriena wrote:Oh, the kids at /r/the_Donald are soooooo salty right now. I love it. :3

Linkify?

by **The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:56 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Galloism wrote:That statement was prepared days ago at least. He knew exactly what was going to happen today.

He knew. He pretended to himhaw around and listen to everyone, but he knew.

He'd told Schumer at 10pm already.. I strongly suspect this was a 'fuck you' aimed squarely at Trump from him.

Let's just all remember that we're only 7 months into this dude's term and he already has lifelong enemies.

by **Galloism** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:56 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Bombadil wrote:McCain released a statement..

I hate Obamacare as much as you do guys but..

Everyone hates Obamacare. I hate Obamacare.

The half assed solutions Republicans came up with were not the answer to the problems with Obamacare though.

Obama care is a pretty terrible bill. It's just not as terrible as either what came before it or what the republicans proposed after it.

by **The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Everyone hates Obamacare. I hate Obamacare.

The half assed solutions Republicans came up with were not the answer to the problems with Obamacare though.

Obama care is a pretty terrible bill. It's just not as terrible as either what came before it or what the republicans proposed after it.

Honestly, you could almost say that about Obama too.

by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:57 pm

Liriena wrote:Oh, the kids at /r/the_Donald are soooooo salty right now. I love it. :3

Twitter's not any better. Trump supporters and conservatives at Twitter are having a meltdown, and tons of salt thrown around, including people who are accusing McCain of being spiteful and bitter and part of the swamp.

After all the shit Trump is doing, and did to him during the election, can we blame the man for trying to tell Trump to go fuck himself?

by **Bombadil** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:58 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Bombadil wrote:McCain released a statement..

I hate Obamacare as much as you do guys but..

Everyone hates Obamacare. I hate Obamacare.

The half assed solutions Republicans came up with were not the answer to the problems with Obamacare though.

I'd posted this earlier but it was a bit out of context and last post on the page but..

I don't live in the US so technically it doesn't affect me.. I get this..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-le ... 99907.html

In fact, as I live on an island a serious medical emergency would require helicopter transportation, which would cost me.. HK$100.. or about $12..

It utterly baffles me as to why a country would not provide a strong degree of healthcare, and it doesn't mean private hospitals can't exist at all.

This system of government-operated hospitals, open to all citizens, costs the Hong Kong government about 3% of GDP. Three percent! Private hospitals, used mainly by the wealthy, and all other health care services bring Hong Kong’s total health care spending to about 6% of GDP. Compare that to about 16% in the U.S. today, and rising.

Three percent of GDP is less than half of the 7.5% of GDP that is already being spent by U.S. governments on health care.

Obamacare isn't great but it's as much as can be done given the environment.. the R's would take it backwards.

by **Washington Resistance Army** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:58 pm

Liriena wrote:Oh, the kids at /r/the_Donald are soooooo salty right now. I love it. :3

They aren't the only ones >_>

Galloism wrote:It'd be really hard for the court to rule the mandate unconstitutional without also wiping out large swaths of deductions and credits in the tax code, given they function roughly identically legally.

Yeah, sadly.

by **Liriena** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:58 pm

Godular wrote:
Liriena wrote:Oh, the kids at /r/the_Donald are soooooo salty right now. I love it. :3

Linkify?

Sure: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6q1uyi/senator_john_mccain_daz_fails_to_learn_from_his/

Put on a hazmat suit before you click it, though. That place is a cesspool.

by **Galloism** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:59 pm

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Galloism wrote:Obama care is a pretty terrible bill. It's just not as terrible as either what came before it or what the republicans proposed after it.

Honestly, you could almost say that about Obama too.

...

I wouldn't call Obama "terrible". He's not my favorite president, but I think he tried.

Certainly though, whatever your feelings, most of us can agree he was better than what came before and after.

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