Trump MAGAthread VII

[Gauthier]

Unfortunately, enough did.

I can't even really see why, tbh. Sure he's never held office but he's always been fairly involved in politics afaik.

Didn't he donate a nice amount to Clinton in 2008 or so?

Did the Clintons actually receive the donation, or did Trump just brag about doing so?

[Steffan]

Unfortunately, enough did.

I can't even really see why, tbh. Sure he's never held office but he's always been fairly involved in politics afaik.

Didn't he donate a nice amount to Clinton in 2008 or so?

Ya know he actually ran for president twice?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tr ... aign,_2000

[Farnhamia]

I can't even really see why, tbh. Sure he's never held office but he's always been fairly involved in politics afaik.

Didn't he donate a nice amount to Clinton in 2008 or so?

Did the Clintons actually receive the donation, or did Trump just brag about doing so?

I think he sent it some time in April.

[Galloism]

Saaaame.

Unfortunately, enough did.

Maybe I should run next cycle.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I can't even really see why, tbh. Sure he's never held office but he's always been fairly involved in politics afaik.

Didn't he donate a nice amount to Clinton in 2008 or so?

Ya know he actually ran for president twice?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tr ... aign,_2000

I don't really count that one because he dropped out long before the actual election.

[Steffan]

Unfortunately, enough did.

Maybe I should run next cycle.

VADER 2020

MAKE AMERICA EMPIRE AGAIN

[Steffan]

Ya know he actually ran for president twice?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Tr ... aign,_2000

I don't really count that one because he dropped out long before the actual election.

Too bad he didn't drop out this time...

[Gauthier]

Unfortunately, enough did.

Maybe I should run next cycle.

And the Trump crowd saves you the effort of Jedi mind tricking them.

[Bombadil]

Apparently, according to Scaramucci, this healthcare debacle is no debacle at all, in fact it's just like Lincoln trying to abolish slavery.. totally the same.. took Lincoln a few goes and a Civil War and I imagine we can expect much the same.

[Steffan]

Apparently, according to Scaramucci, this healthcare debacle is no debacle at all, in fact it's just like Lincoln trying to abolish slavery.. totally the same.. took Lincoln a few goes and a Civil War and I imagine we can expect much the same.

He...he said that?

[Bombadil]

Apparently, according to Scaramucci, this healthcare debacle is no debacle at all, in fact it's just like Lincoln trying to abolish slavery.. totally the same.. took Lincoln a few goes and a Civil War and I imagine we can expect much the same.

He...he said that?

Not super exactly..

The new head of communications at the White House brought up Abraham Lincoln’s struggle to end slavery when asked about the difficulty Donald Trump has faced in trying to repeal Barack Obama’s healthcare legislation.

In his first UK television interview, Anthony Scaramucci said Trump would push through the abolition of the healthcare plan, despite opposition in Congress.

He told BBC Newsnight’s Emily Maitlis: “If you’ve read Team of Rivals, it took Lincoln three or four times to get what he wanted from the Senate and the House of Representatives, which was the full abolition of slavery – that was a much tougher thing to get done than what we’re working on right now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... sh-slavery

[Zanera]

Unfortunately, enough did.

Maybe I should run next cycle.

Only if you're planning on making the Imperial Fleet mighty. Plz gib more bizniz.

[Steffan]

He...he said that?

Not super exactly..

The new head of communications at the White House brought up Abraham Lincoln’s struggle to end slavery when asked about the difficulty Donald Trump has faced in trying to repeal Barack Obama’s healthcare legislation.

In his first UK television interview, Anthony Scaramucci said Trump would push through the abolition of the healthcare plan, despite opposition in Congress.

He told BBC Newsnight’s Emily Maitlis: “If you’ve read Team of Rivals, it took Lincoln three or four times to get what he wanted from the Senate and the House of Representatives, which was the full abolition of slavery – that was a much tougher thing to get done than what we’re working on right now.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... sh-slavery

He really ought to be careful with his wording.
And how DARE he compare one of the best presidents we ever had with this national embarrassment!

[Galloism]

So, I've been watching the senate.

Repeal & Replace was voted down. Straight repeal was voted down. What's the next step, and the plan for that step? Anyone know?

[Gauthier]

So, I've been watching the senate.

Repeal & Replace was voted down. Straight repeal was voted down. What's the next step, and the plan for that step? Anyone know?

Skinny Repeal.

[Galloism]

So, I've been watching the senate.

Repeal & Replace was voted down. Straight repeal was voted down. What's the next step, and the plan for that step? Anyone know?

Skinny Repeal.

Ok, so I've heard the term, but I'm a little fuzzy on the details, other than it leaves most of the ACA in place, but kills the mandate and medical device tax, and there's mystical house negotiations that are supposed to happen, but I'm a little unclear on how that leads to a full repeal as I've heard.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

So, I've been watching the senate.

Repeal & Replace was voted down. Straight repeal was voted down. What's the next step, and the plan for that step? Anyone know?

Two simultaneous healthcare plans.

[Camicon]

Don't ask me, i'm not the Tweeter-In-Chief

Tbh I'm still upset that we spend so much military money on viagra.

Sounds like you should let the military (and every other consumer) negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. I'm sure that would, ah... "deflate" the price, so to speak.

I never laughed at Bush for his accent. I laughed at him for holding upside a book which he was supposed to be reading to children.

Bush Jr., whatever else he may have been as POTUS, was not a particularly bright bulb.

So he's an idiot just for holding a book the wrong way? I'm sure you haven't done anything that stupid.

Well, it's not something that a person with common sense would do. And you're right, I haven't ever held a book upside down while reading it to a classroom of children.

I have read books upside down before, but intentionally, because in grade school I had a tendency to finish our assigned readings well before the rest of the class, and I got bored of staring at the ceiling.

[Seangoli]

So, I've been watching the senate.

Repeal & Replace was voted down. Straight repeal was voted down. What's the next step, and the plan for that step? Anyone know?

Soft-repeal. They will propose to remove the individual and employer mandate, remove Medicaid expansion and a bunch of the taxes involved with the ACA. Not a total repeal, but a gutting.

Which is unlikely to happen as that is just plain idiotic, and possibly even politically worse than just a straight repeal or just leaving it alone. You effectively get the worst of all worlds: plunge the Healthcare industry into chaos, cause premiums to go up massively, kill support in Medicaid-heavy states like West Virginia and Nevada and it becomes apparent that it was your fault it happened. I know both Heller and Moore-Capito are more than likely to veto any bill that removes Medicaid funding at this juncture.

[Camicon]

Skinny Repeal.

Ok, so I've heard the term, but I'm a little fuzzy on the details, other than it leaves most of the ACA in place, but kills the mandate and medical device tax, and there's mystical house negotiations that are supposed to happen, but I'm a little unclear on how that leads to a full repeal as I've heard.

I guess the idea is to repeal enough of it so as to collapse the system, and actually make the ACA fail, so that they can drum up the political support to drive a knife through it's heart.

[Geilinor]

So, I've been watching the senate.

Repeal & Replace was voted down. Straight repeal was voted down. What's the next step, and the plan for that step? Anyone know?

Soft-repeal. They will propose to remove the individual and employer mandate, remove Medicaid expansion and a bunch of the taxes involved with the ACA. Not a total repeal, but a gutting.

Which is unlikely to happen as that is just plain idiotic, and possibly even politically worse than just a straight repeal or just leaving it alone. You effectively get the worst of all worlds: plunge the Healthcare industry into chaos, cause premiums to go up massively, kill support in Medicaid-heavy states like West Virginia and Nevada and it becomes apparent that it was your fault it happened. I know both Heller and Moore-Capito are more than likely to veto any bill that removes Medicaid funding at this juncture.

I thought Medicaid expansion wasn't being touched in the "skinny" bill. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/obamacare-skinny-repeal-cbo-241009?lo=ap_c2 The CBO score doesn't include removing it.

[Steffan]

Ok, so I've heard the term, but I'm a little fuzzy on the details, other than it leaves most of the ACA in place, but kills the mandate and medical device tax, and there's mystical house negotiations that are supposed to happen, but I'm a little unclear on how that leads to a full repeal as I've heard.

I guess the idea is to repeal enough of it so as to collapse the system, and actually make the ACA fail, so that they can drum up the political support to drive a knife through it's heart.

If they rollback Medicare, it'll lose the moderate bloc. Fail.
And if the healthcare system falls apart, i think the Republicans and Trump who'll feel the burn of it. Even though it was a Democrat bill, they let it crash.

[Seangoli]

Soft-repeal. They will propose to remove the individual and employer mandate, remove Medicaid expansion and a bunch of the taxes involved with the ACA. Not a total repeal, but a gutting.

Which is unlikely to happen as that is just plain idiotic, and possibly even politically worse than just a straight repeal or just leaving it alone. You effectively get the worst of all worlds: plunge the Healthcare industry into chaos, cause premiums to go up massively, kill support in Medicaid-heavy states like West Virginia and Nevada and it becomes apparent that it was your fault it happened. I know both Heller and Moore-Capito are more than likely to veto any bill that removes Medicaid funding at this juncture.

I thought Medicaid expansion wasn't being touched in the "skinny" bill. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/obamacare-skinny-repeal-cbo-241009?lo=ap_c2 The CBO score doesn't include removing it.

Ah, you are correct. This whole mess is just so terribly confusing that I doubt anybody knows what the hell is going on.

That said, removing the individual and employer mandate would be a disaster for the markets, and would create a vastly worse system than is current.

[Galloism]

I thought Medicaid expansion wasn't being touched in the "skinny" bill. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/26/obamacare-skinny-repeal-cbo-241009?lo=ap_c2 The CBO score doesn't include removing it.

Ah, you are correct. This whole mess is just so terribly confusing that I doubt anybody knows what the hell is going on.

That said, removing the individual and employer mandate would be a disaster for the markets, and would create a vastly worse system than is current.

So the goal is to break one of the legs on the ACA, point out it has a broken leg, and then shoot it like a horse with a broken leg.

[Bombadil]

Ah, you are correct. This whole mess is just so terribly confusing that I doubt anybody knows what the hell is going on.

That said, removing the individual and employer mandate would be a disaster for the markets, and would create a vastly worse system than is current.

So the goal is to break one of the legs on the ACA, point out it has a broken leg, and then shoot it like a horse with a broken leg.

Yep, and then repeat 'see how the Democrats sold us a broken legged horse..'