Trump MAGAthread VII

[AiliailiA]

Im not mad at the 45% I'm mad at the 26% who had no fucking clue

Honestly, I think the 26% are that 26% because the question did simply ask if they'd be okay with him shooting someone on 5th Avenue or not, without suggesting a reason for it (I.E. he just did it randomly, he did it in self-defense, etc.) so they're unsure because the question's a bit vague.

The 45% are the ones that really need anger directed at them.

Neither of them really. Why did PPP even ask that question?

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. Democratic polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer.

In addition to political issues, the company has polled the public on topics such as the approval rating of God, whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture, whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying, and whether Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.

[Ifreann]

Honestly, I think the 26% are that 26% because the question did simply ask if they'd be okay with him shooting someone on 5th Avenue or not, without suggesting a reason for it (I.E. he just did it randomly, he did it in self-defense, etc.) so they're unsure because the question's a bit vague.

The 45% are the ones that really need anger directed at them.

Neither of them really. Why did PPP even ask that question?

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. Democratic polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer.

In addition to political issues, the company has polled the public on topics such as the approval rating of God, whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture, whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying, and whether Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.

So they're a polling firm that generates headlines.

[Bombadil]

Neither of them really. Why did PPP even ask that question?

So they're a polling firm that generates headlines.

All polling firms do, to market themselves.. though PPP does come at it from a particular angle - in general their more traditional polling on elections is pretty decent.

[AiliailiA]

Neither of them really. Why did PPP even ask that question?

So they're a polling firm that generates headlines.

Pro-Democrat headlines, yes.

The results they get which can be directly compared to other pollsters are very good. B+ methodology, no partisan bias compared to the herd. But yeah, they occasionally make a headline, deliberately, for partisan reasons.

EDIT: Where do you stand on the Hipster Tax, btw?

[Astrolinium]

Honestly, I think the 26% are that 26% because the question did simply ask if they'd be okay with him shooting someone on 5th Avenue or not, without suggesting a reason for it (I.E. he just did it randomly, he did it in self-defense, etc.) so they're unsure because the question's a bit vague.

The 45% are the ones that really need anger directed at them.

Neither of them really. Why did PPP even ask that question?

Public Policy Polling (PPP) is a U.S. Democratic polling firm based in Raleigh, North Carolina. PPP was founded in 2001 by businessman Dean Debnam, the firm's current president and chief executive officer.

In addition to political issues, the company has polled the public on topics such as the approval rating of God, whether Republican voters believe President Obama would be eligible to enter heaven in the event of the Rapture, whether hipsters should be subjected to a special tax for being annoying, and whether Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer.

They do their best to make polling sexy.

[Genivaria]

So they're a polling firm that generates headlines.

Pro-Democrat headlines, yes.

The results they get which can be directly compared to other pollsters are very good. B+ methodology, no partisan bias compared to the herd. But yeah, they occasionally make a headline, deliberately, for partisan reasons.

EDIT: Where do you stand on the Hipster Tax, btw?

Tax the shit out of fedoras and giant fucking glasses.

[Camicon]

Pro-Democrat headlines, yes.

The results they get which can be directly compared to other pollsters are very good. B+ methodology, no partisan bias compared to the herd. But yeah, they occasionally make a headline, deliberately, for partisan reasons.

EDIT: Where do you stand on the Hipster Tax, btw?

Tax the shit out of fedoras and giant fucking glasses.

Large glasses give you the most peripheral vision though, they actually serve a useful function.

How about taxing the shit out of non-perscription glasses?

[Ism]

Tax the shit out of fedoras and giant fucking glasses.

Large glasses give you the most peripheral vision though, they actually serve a useful function.

How about taxing the shit out of non-perscription glasses?

With an exemption for sunglasses though right?

[Zanera]

Tax the shit out of fedoras and giant fucking glasses.

Large glasses give you the most peripheral vision though, they actually serve a useful function.

How about taxing the shit out of non-perscription glasses?

And indoor brick walls.

[AiliailiA]

Neither of them really. Why did PPP even ask that question?

They do their best to make polling sexy.

Well good for them. Let's not bandy about that 45% of Trump supporters are OK with murder though. There are several reasons people might answer that way, like presumption of self-defense, or awareness of the context which makes the question implicity "how much do you support Donald Trump?"

Hence why I replied to Torrocca instead of others. They were the only one skeptical of what the polling really showed. I sought to build on that rather than contradict my fellow liberals directly.

If we're going to go on with it though, I'll stand up to you all. Don't just uncritically accept polling because it shows what you want to believe.

[AiliailiA]

Pro-Democrat headlines, yes.

The results they get which can be directly compared to other pollsters are very good. B+ methodology, no partisan bias compared to the herd. But yeah, they occasionally make a headline, deliberately, for partisan reasons.

EDIT: Where do you stand on the Hipster Tax, btw?

Tax the shit out of fedoras and giant fucking glasses.

I don't own an actual fedora, but I'll admit some details of my dress and speech might be taxable. I'd put my hipster quotient at around 15%, so I expect to pay that percentage of full hipster tax.

I still support it though, because some people are much more hipster than me, I do find them annoying, and government has to tax somebody right?

[Camicon]

Large glasses give you the most peripheral vision though, they actually serve a useful function.

How about taxing the shit out of non-perscription glasses?

With an exemption for sunglasses though right?

Obviously. Aviators or nuthin'.

And indoor brick walls.

Don't be knocking accent walls.

[Zanera]

With an exemption for sunglasses though right?

Obviously. Aviators or nuthin'.

And indoor brick walls.

Don't be knocking accent walls.

Knock them accent walls down or get accented with a tax is what I'm sayin'.

[Ism]

They do their best to make polling sexy.

Well good for them. Let's not bandy about that 45% of Trump supporters are OK with murder though. There are several reasons people might answer that way, like presumption of self-defense, or awareness of the context which makes the question implicity "how much do you support Donald Trump?"

Hence why I replied to Torrocca instead of others. They were the only one skeptical of what the polling really showed. I sought to build on that rather than contradict my fellow liberals directly.

If we're going to go on with it though, I'll stand up to you all. Don't just uncritically accept polling because it shows what you want to believe.

I imagine a lot of them didn't take the poll seriously, or at least not that seriously.

[Camicon]

Obviously. Aviators or nuthin'.

Don't be knocking accent walls.

Knock them accent walls down or get accented with a tax is what I'm sayin'.

Knock it right down on your head maybe.

[AiliailiA]

Well good for them. Let's not bandy about that 45% of Trump supporters are OK with murder though. There are several reasons people might answer that way, like presumption of self-defense, or awareness of the context which makes the question implicity "how much do you support Donald Trump?"

Hence why I replied to Torrocca instead of others. They were the only one skeptical of what the polling really showed. I sought to build on that rather than contradict my fellow liberals directly.

If we're going to go on with it though, I'll stand up to you all. Don't just uncritically accept polling because it shows what you want to believe.

I imagine a lot of them didn't take the poll seriously, or at least not that seriously.

Right, and thanks. I'm not looking for an argument with basically everyone.

[Zanera]

Knock them accent walls down or get accented with a tax is what I'm sayin'.

Knock it right down on your head maybe.

If I'm in the way of a wall getting knocked down my dumb unaware ass probably deserves it tbh.

[Camicon]

Knock it right down on your head maybe.

If I'm in the way of a wall getting knocked down my dumb unaware ass probably deserves it tbh.

How often do you see a wall and consciously make a mental note that it's there? Walls have mastered the art of hiding in plain sight.

[Ism]

I imagine a lot of them didn't take the poll seriously, or at least not that seriously.

Right, and thanks. I'm not looking for an argument with basically everyone.

To clarify, by "not that seriously" I just meant that, given the question is kind of ridiculous, I imagine they either didn't really treat the poll that seriously or they didn't treat they're answer that seriously. It wasn't my intention to argue with you.

[Genivaria]

Donald Trump thinks he's working on a trade deal with the UK. Of course, the UK is still in the EU and will be until 2019, so this can't possibly be true.

Also this.
"The E.U. is very protectionist with the U.S."
Dumbass say what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatla ... artnership

[Zanera]

If I'm in the way of a wall getting knocked down my dumb unaware ass probably deserves it tbh.

How often do you see a wall and consciously make a mental note that it's there? Walls have mastered the art of hiding in plain sight.

I'd say doors are sneakier than walls though. Sometimes you never know when one's gonna hit you, and there's always the clean glass sliding doors that you don't notice until it's too late.

[AiliailiA]

Donald Trump thinks he's working on a trade deal with the UK. Of course, the UK is still in the EU and will be until 2019, so this can't possibly be true.

Also this.
"The E.U. is very protectionist with the U.S."
Dumbass say what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatla ... artnership

That's not in place though. Common wisdom is that Trump will kill it like TPP, and even if he didn't Congress probably would.

The UK very likely will have it's own special arrangement with the EU, ie, the UK will be favored over nations generally. But the UK will also be free to sign a bilateral with the US, independently of the EU.

Trump should actually be negotiating now, for a bilateral agreement (US/UK) to come into effect two or three years from now. Agreements generally take that long to negotiate, though obviously it can't be finalized until the UK's arrangements with the EU are better know (if not themselves finalized).

What Trump should NOT do is announce some great deal being made right now. That's bullshit.

[Luminesa]

I think they're on the vote-a-rama right now, they're quickly proposing and voting on amendments. I don't think they're voting on the bill itself yet.



John Cornyn (R-TX) is a scary as fuck whip.

You are correct they won't vote on the actual thing until later this week

SOOOOO MANY VOOOOOOTES. >.<

[AiliailiA]

You are correct they won't vote on the actual thing until later this week

SOOOOO MANY VOOOOOOTES. >.<

It's literally called the "vote-a-rama". Soldati didn't make that up!

[Bombadil]

Well good for them. Let's not bandy about that 45% of Trump supporters are OK with murder though. There are several reasons people might answer that way, like presumption of self-defense, or awareness of the context which makes the question implicity "how much do you support Donald Trump?"

Hence why I replied to Torrocca instead of others. They were the only one skeptical of what the polling really showed. I sought to build on that rather than contradict my fellow liberals directly.

If we're going to go on with it though, I'll stand up to you all. Don't just uncritically accept polling because it shows what you want to believe.

I imagine a lot of them didn't take the poll seriously, or at least not that seriously.

It probably wasn't a serious poll but Trump supporters are very loyal, as shown by multiple polls including a recent Economist/YouGov poll - some are okay if he had to cheat to win despite the Russia stuff.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/vid ... ania-video

Polling companies do take into account various factors around presumption, to get a sample size of, say, 1000 you may be polling some 2000 and stripping out responses for various weighted reasons, such as 'time to respond'. Too fast and perhaps they're not thinking about it.. etc..

Not that I'm standing 100% behind it but I wouldn't doubt it too much.