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Postby New haven america » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:11 pm

Zanera wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Police surplus equipment when?


Tanks might make great battering rams for doors.
And walls.

And those pesky gated areas.
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:18 pm

FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
Genivaria wrote:Neither do failed F-35 projects which the military DOESN'T FUCKING WANT STOP IT!


I-It w-will be worth it; e-eventually.


Yeah, I feel like that too. I support F-35, but only reluctantly, and only because starting again would leave too big a gap.
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:21 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Maybe if we invested better in our kids and actually cared they might not do drugs thus eliminating at least one of the expenses

Some kids are always going to do drugs. The question is how do we respond to it?


let them drink booze instead 8)
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Postby Zanera » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:30 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Tanks might make great battering rams for doors.
And walls.

And protests.

THINK WE MILITARIZED NOW, LIBS? YOU AIN'T SEEN SHIET!


We're not militarized enough until we hit Turian culture levels of militarization.

New haven america wrote:
Zanera wrote:
Tanks might make great battering rams for doors.
And walls.

And those pesky gated areas.


Suspects might drop their guns just at the sight of a tank. Nevah know.

AiliailiA wrote:
FelrikTheDeleted wrote:
I-It w-will be worth it; e-eventually.


Yeah, I feel like that too. I support F-35, but only reluctantly, and only because starting again would leave too big a gap.


I heard once it gets into mass production or something the cost for each will go down.

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Postby Senkaku » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:45 pm

Liriena wrote:By gawd, how are you even still a country?

We still have the biggest economy and the biggest guns :p
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:56 pm

Zanera wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:
Yeah, I feel like that too. I support F-35, but only reluctantly, and only because starting again would leave too big a gap.


I heard once it gets into mass production or something the cost for each will go down.


Yeah, it's fairly basic that the R&D costs will be the same whether there are a hundred or a thousand built. The more are commissioned (including sold overseas btw, I think currently foreign orders outnumber the US commitment to buy) the more that initial cost is spread out over each one.

My theory is that the US commitment to buy has been cut so drastically, not to save costs and not because the US can do without them in future, but as a way to put pressure on L-M to make each one cheaper.

The main saving over lifetime that the F-35 was supposed to be good for, wasn't unit price so much as maintenance and parts. Supposed to be cheaper, but that saving is a long way in the future since the cost of maintenance and parts goes up over time for any airframe.
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:07 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Liriena wrote:By gawd, how are you even still a country?

We still have the biggest economy and the biggest guns :p


Also Hollywood.

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I Like American music, movies and television .......................... 65% Like 19% Don't Like
It is Bad that American ideas and customs are spreading ............ 54% Bad 38% Good

I don't use this word often, but: world population, 27% of you are CUCKS!
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:37 pm

So what's the point of crying out against Trump's FCC's efforts to repeal Net Neutrality with comments and protests if they're just going repeal them anyway no matter how much we kick and scream?

I mean, I'm not one to take things like this lying down, but I prefer guaranteed winning results in my efforts of opposition. I fight to win and win only with the cards stacked in my favor, not to scream at a brick wall that will ignore our voices and lose regardless...

Edit: Of course there's always the courts who would probably listen to us, but that's a big if, considering how unpredictable the courts can be...
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:52 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:So what's the point of crying out against Trump's FCC's efforts to repeal Net Neutrality with comments and protests if they're just going repeal them anyway no matter how much we kick and scream?

I mean, I'm not one to take things like this lying down, but I prefer guaranteed winning results in my efforts of opposition. I fight to win and win only with the cards stacked in my favor, not to scream at a brick wall that will ignore our voices and lose regardless...

Edit: Of course there's always the courts who would probably listen to us, but that's a big if, considering how unpredictable the courts can be...


Yeah :(

Net Neutrality is even more of a lost cause in that it hasn't passed yet. It's not being repealed, it's being abandoned in advance, and the courts will never help us with that.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:55 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:So what's the point of crying out against Trump's FCC's efforts to repeal Net Neutrality with comments and protests if they're just going repeal them anyway no matter how much we kick and scream?

I mean, I'm not one to take things like this lying down, but I prefer guaranteed winning results in my efforts of opposition. I fight to win and win only with the cards stacked in my favor, not to scream at a brick wall that will ignore our voices and lose regardless...

Edit: Of course there's always the courts who would probably listen to us, but that's a big if, considering how unpredictable the courts can be...


Yeah :(

Net Neutrality is even more of a lost cause in that it hasn't passed yet. It's not being repealed, it's being abandoned in advance, and the courts will never help us with that.

It actually has passed. Under Title II and the Open Internet Rules, Net Neutrality is the written law of the land at the moment.
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Postby Lowell Leber » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:56 pm

Valrifell wrote:
New haven america wrote:I'm of a similar mindset. On one hand, Religion and Government should stay as far apart as possible (Especially if you look at the US' history), while on the other hand, they've been doing this for 200 years as a sign of religious freedom and acceptance in the country (IIRC, the White House does put on events and shows for other religions too), so yeah...


If the WH is going to celebrate/recognize Christmas (which, I mean, come on) then they should celebrate all major religious holidays. This is still supposed to be a secular humanist republic, right?

Secular yes. Humanist no. And Christmas is of cultural significance to Western Civilization so it should be celebrated.
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Postby Lowell Leber » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:01 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:Yeah, working real well for them. /s/

But....it has. It's not like ISIL is an actual state where killing the leader and defeating their armies in Syria and Iraq will stop them. They're a terrorist organization,
first and foremost, that dabbled in state creation. Their losses in Syria and Iraq have led to an increase in their international operations, after all.

Than we will hunt them down to the last man. No quarter given.
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:02 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:
Yeah :(

Net Neutrality is even more of a lost cause in that it hasn't passed yet. It's not being repealed, it's being abandoned in advance, and the courts will never help us with that.

It actually has passed. Under Title II and the Open Internet Rules, Net Neutrality is the written law of the land at the moment.


Then Trump cannot "repeal" it. Thanks for the details, I'll look it up.
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:09 pm

AiliailiA wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:It actually has passed. Under Title II and the Open Internet Rules, Net Neutrality is the written law of the land at the moment.


Then Trump cannot "repeal" it. Thanks for the details, I'll look it up.

Of course he can't, but the Chief Commissioner of the FCC he appointed, Ajit Psi, most certainly can and is going to with the vote he has once the comment filing period is over. The entire process may take months from now and we'd better hope that the courts will see how capricious the repeal will be and in violation of the Administration Procedure Act...
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Postby Ism » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:56 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
AiliailiA wrote:
Yeah :(

Net Neutrality is even more of a lost cause in that it hasn't passed yet. It's not being repealed, it's being abandoned in advance, and the courts will never help us with that.

It actually has passed. Under Title II and the Open Internet Rules, Net Neutrality is the written law of the land at the moment.


I thought the issue was shifting the responsibility for enforcing net neutrality was moving from the FCC to the FTC (or maybe it was another group?) which didn't have the same power as the FCC, and so would not really be able to enforce the rules.

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Postby Neo Balka » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:30 am

Genivaria wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Moonlandings don't come cheap.

Neither do failed F-35 projects which the military DOESN'T FUCKING WANT STOP IT!

>F-35
>Failed.

Ah yes, despite one hell of a showing at a combat exercise recently where it apparently kicked ass and took NO NAMES, its somehow a failure.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:33 am

Corrian wrote:Oh yeah, I am sure you all saw the Chris Christie scandal by now.

The new one, that is.

Also his approval rating BEFORE this recent thing was already at 15%. FIFTEEN PERCENT. And I thought it was low when I looked at it before. Apparently his approval has tanked in the last year even further.


So the Antifa thing was just a last-ditch attempt to try and turn this around then?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:45 am

Geilinor wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Maybe if we invested better in our kids and actually cared they might not do drugs thus eliminating at least one of the expenses

Some kids are always going to do drugs. The question is how do we respond to it?

Legalize them. Take the fun out of doing something bad.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:51 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Some kids are always going to do drugs. The question is how do we respond to it?

Legalize them. Take the fun out of doing something bad.

After all you can't put luxury taxes on something illegal. <.<
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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:26 am

Lowell Leber wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:But....it has. It's not like ISIL is an actual state where killing the leader and defeating their armies in Syria and Iraq will stop them. They're a terrorist organization,
first and foremost, that dabbled in state creation. Their losses in Syria and Iraq have led to an increase in their international operations, after all.

Than we will hunt them down to the last man. No quarter given.

This is literally impossible. Even if the US and others managed to break ISIL another group with a similar ideology will just pop up somewhere else. Hell, the US hasn't even managed to destroy al-Qaeda after sixteen 'effing years.
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Postby Phoenicaea » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:30 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Legalize them. Take the fun out of doing something bad.

After all you can't put luxury taxes on something illegal. <.<


legalize. end prohibition, we ll have to do it in both Atlantic sides at once

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Postby Eol Sha » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:44 am


Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't Clinton want to establish a unilateral no-fly zone over Syria regardless of how the Russian government felt about it?
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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