Trump MAGAthread VII

[Geilinor]

No not at all.

Rule of Cool always wins.

I thought you disliked hippies, TEM?

[The East Marches II]

Rule of Cool always wins.

I thought you disliked hippies, TEM?

I do no doubt but even I have to bow to reality :'(

[Damverland]

It's bizzare, isn't it? A decade and a half ago it was the other way around.

No not at all.

No, I'm quite sure liberals were the young punks and the conservatives were the old angry men. It's in their name, FFS.

[Thermodolia]

No not at all.

No, I'm quite sure liberals were the young punks and the conservatives were the old angry men. It's in their name, FFS.

In sure the hippies where the punks not so much the liberals. Liberals really where not super radical people for many many years. JFK and LBJ where both liberals and neither of them where punks.

[Gauthier]

Speaking of politics and wrestling...

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[Salandriagado]

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Hes the president of the United States not some edgy teen. There's a certain amount of respect one has to have for the office. And by tweeting like this Trump has shown that he doesn't have the respect for the office

Presidents have done dumber, gimmickier things than this. Look hard enough and you'll find some examples.

I genuinely can't think of a single one (that wasn't also from Trump).


I also can't think of another president that's made such a ridiculously anti-freedom of the press "statement".

[MERIZoC]

Yeah I don't see what's bad about it. I think people only hate it because Trump tweeted it. If he wants to shitpost a little, let him do it.

Hes the president of the United States not some edgy teen. There's a certain amount of respect one has to have for the office. And by tweeting like this Trump has shown that he doesn't have the respect for the office

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

[Vassenor]

The Right is full of fun loving, hell raising rebels laughing their way to victory, and the Left is a bunch of uptight squares spluttering outrage about how the young punks have no respect for decorum and tradition. Best possible timeline.

Are you sure we're living in the same universe? Because all I see is an old white guy constantly whining about how he's not being showered with adoration from every corner.

[Gauthier]

Hes the president of the United States not some edgy teen. There's a certain amount of respect one has to have for the office. And by tweeting like this Trump has shown that he doesn't have the respect for the office

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

Because we could imagine Roosevelt throwing a tantrum about whoever butthurt him on a Fireside Chat.

[Thermodolia]

Hes the president of the United States not some edgy teen. There's a certain amount of respect one has to have for the office. And by tweeting like this Trump has shown that he doesn't have the respect for the office

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

No it doesn't need to die. It's a sacred office even though a few idiots fucked it up, Clinton, Trump I'm looking at you.

[MERIZoC]

Presidents have done dumber, gimmickier things than this. Look hard enough and you'll find some examples.

I genuinely can't think of a single one (that wasn't also from Trump).


I also can't think of another president that's made such a ridiculously anti-freedom of the press "statement".

John Adams passed the Alien and Sedition acts, which criminalized speech against the government. Woodrow Wilson passed the Espionage Act (and later the Sedition Act of 1918) which banned speech critical of the government or war effort. Obama used that same espionage act to jail whistleblowers and go after journalists.

If you think this is the most "anti freedom of the press" sentiment from a president ever, you have a terrible understanding of history.

[Geilinor]

Hes the president of the United States not some edgy teen. There's a certain amount of respect one has to have for the office. And by tweeting like this Trump has shown that he doesn't have the respect for the office

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

The fact that other presidents have done bad things doesn't excuse our current one.

[Thermodolia]

I genuinely can't think of a single one (that wasn't also from Trump).


I also can't think of another president that's made such a ridiculously anti-freedom of the press "statement".

John Adams passed the Alien and Sedition acts, which criminalized speech against the government. Woodrow Wilson passed the Espionage Act (and later the Sedition Act of 1918) which banned speech critical of the government or war effort. Obama used that same espionage act to jail whistleblowers and go after journalists.

If you think this is the most "anti freedom of the press" sentiment from a president ever, you have a terrible understanding of history.

Alien and Sedition acts was found unconstitutional. Wilson was in the middle of a war, and whistleblowers should be punished, especially if they are leaking information about our security apparatuses

[MERIZoC]

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

No it doesn't need to die. It's a sacred office even though a few idiots fucked it up, Clinton, Trump I'm looking at you.

"a few"

Bush lied to start a war that killed hundreds of thousands, Clinton bombed a medicine factory to distract from his affair, Reagan was mentally diseased and illegally funded death squads, Nixon destroyed Cambodia in secret, and along with JFK and LBJ, conducted a war in Vietnam that killed millions. FDR put Japanese-americans in internment camps, Wilson as I mentioned previously cracked down on free speech. That's just a handful of the many examples from only the last century. The list goes on and on. Adams, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan, Mckinley, and many more also did horrible things. Fuck respect. The office and the people that have occupied it deserve only scorn.

[MERIZoC]

John Adams passed the Alien and Sedition acts, which criminalized speech against the government. Woodrow Wilson passed the Espionage Act (and later the Sedition Act of 1918) which banned speech critical of the government or war effort. Obama used that same espionage act to jail whistleblowers and go after journalists.

If you think this is the most "anti freedom of the press" sentiment from a president ever, you have a terrible understanding of history.

Alien and Sedition acts was found unconstitutional. Wilson was in the middle of a war, and whistleblowers should be punished, especially if they are leaking information about our security apparatuses

The supreme court overturning them doesn't change the fact that Adams was very anti democratic. We are also in the middle of a war right now, and your revenge fantasies don't change the fact that prosecuting them is anti-press.

[Ism]

Alien and Sedition acts was found unconstitutional. Wilson was in the middle of a war, and whistleblowers should be punished, especially if they are leaking information about our security apparatuses

The supreme court overturning them doesn't change the fact that Adams was very anti democratic. We are also in the middle of a war right now, and your revenge fantasies don't change the fact that prosecuting them is anti-press.

I must have missed the declaration then.

[Geilinor]

Alien and Sedition acts was found unconstitutional. Wilson was in the middle of a war, and whistleblowers should be punished, especially if they are leaking information about our security apparatuses

The supreme court overturning them doesn't change the fact that Adams was very anti democratic. We are also in the middle of a war right now, and your revenge fantasies don't change the fact that prosecuting them is anti-press.

Prosecuting the press would be anti-press. Leakers are not the media.

[MERIZoC]

The supreme court overturning them doesn't change the fact that Adams was very anti democratic. We are also in the middle of a war right now, and your revenge fantasies don't change the fact that prosecuting them is anti-press.

Prosecuting the press would be anti-press. Leakers are not the media.

When you go after sources you are impeding the ability of a free press to do its job.

[Hydesland]

Hes the president of the United States not some edgy teen. There's a certain amount of respect one has to have for the office. And by tweeting like this Trump has shown that he doesn't have the respect for the office

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

Classic Chapo Trap House contrarianism - better not be seen to be agreeing with those evil liberals that Trump did something unambiguously stupid, embarrassing and literally furthering the alt right's "meme war" to promote alternative facts over.. you know.. actual reality, so better bring up irrelevant whataboutism about past presidents as if that means we can only take a total nihilistic approach about what is and isn't actually acceptable behaviour for a statesman.

[MERIZoC]

This "respect for the office" bullshit needs to die. Presidents have done horrible things from the oval office. The idea that it's sacred in any way is ridiculous; the notion that shitposting is worse than clandestine wars and assassinations even more so.

Classic Chapo Trap House contrarianism - better not be seen to be agreeing with those evil liberals that Trump did something unambiguously stupid, embarrassing and literally furthering the alt right's "meme war" to promote alternative facts over.. you know.. actual reality, so better bring up irrelevant whataboutism about past presidents as if that means we can only take a total nihilistic approach about what is and isn't actually acceptable behaviour for a statesman.

It is stupid. Of course it is. That's why its hilarious. But I'd rather have him doing this than "being a statesman" so he can figure out what country to bomb next or how to gut access to abortion.

[Thermodolia]

No it doesn't need to die. It's a sacred office even though a few idiots fucked it up, Clinton, Trump I'm looking at you.

"a few"

1) Bush lied to start a war that killed hundreds of thousands, 2) Clinton bombed a medicine factory to distract from his affair, 3) Reagan was mentally diseased and illegally funded death squads, 4) Nixon destroyed Cambodia in secret, and along with JFK and LBJ, 5) conducted a war in Vietnam that killed millions. 6) FDR put Japanese-americans in internment camps, 7) Wilson as I mentioned previously cracked down on free speech. That's just a handful of the many examples from only the last century. The list goes on and on. Adams, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan, Mckinley, and many more also did horrible things. Fuck respect. The office and the people that have occupied it deserve only scorn.

1) Bush didn't lie
2) That was an accident,
3) No he wasn't and communism needed to be contained,
4) I don't care
5) We shouldn't have left when we did.
6) FDR was an ass.
7) Wilson was also an ass.

[Vassenor]

"a few"

1) Bush lied to start a war that killed hundreds of thousands, 2) Clinton bombed a medicine factory to distract from his affair, 3) Reagan was mentally diseased and illegally funded death squads, 4) Nixon destroyed Cambodia in secret, and along with JFK and LBJ, 5) conducted a war in Vietnam that killed millions. 6) FDR put Japanese-americans in internment camps, 7) Wilson as I mentioned previously cracked down on free speech. That's just a handful of the many examples from only the last century. The list goes on and on. Adams, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan, Mckinley, and many more also did horrible things. Fuck respect. The office and the people that have occupied it deserve only scorn.

1) Bush didn't lie
2) That was an accident,
3) No he wasn't and communism needed to be contained,
4) I don't care
5) We shouldn't have left when we did.
6) FDR was an ass.
7) Wilson was also an ass.

So where were Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?

[Thermodolia]

1) Bush didn't lie
2) That was an accident,
3) No he wasn't and communism needed to be contained,
4) I don't care
5) We shouldn't have left when we did.
6) FDR was an ass.
7) Wilson was also an ass.

So where were Iraq's weapons of mass destruction?

Getting false information and outright lying are two very different things.

[MERIZoC]

"a few"

1) Bush lied to start a war that killed hundreds of thousands, 2) Clinton bombed a medicine factory to distract from his affair, 3) Reagan was mentally diseased and illegally funded death squads, 4) Nixon destroyed Cambodia in secret, and along with JFK and LBJ, 5) conducted a war in Vietnam that killed millions. 6) FDR put Japanese-americans in internment camps, 7) Wilson as I mentioned previously cracked down on free speech. That's just a handful of the many examples from only the last century. The list goes on and on. Adams, Jackson, Polk, Buchanan, Mckinley, and many more also did horrible things. Fuck respect. The office and the people that have occupied it deserve only scorn.

1) Bush didn't lie
2) That was an accident,
3) No he wasn't and communism needed to be contained,
4) I don't care
5) We shouldn't have left when we did.
6) FDR was an ass.
7) Wilson was also an ass.

Then why are you even talking with me when I'm coming from a position of respecting human life and you just hate yellow and brown people? If you fundamentally like murderous regimes then there's clearly no point in this conversation.

[Thermodolia]

1) Bush didn't lie
2) That was an accident,
3) No he wasn't and communism needed to be contained,
4) I don't care
5) We shouldn't have left when we did.
6) FDR was an ass.
7) Wilson was also an ass.

Then why are you even talking with me when I'm coming from a position of respecting human life and you just hate yellow and brown people? If you fundamentally like murderous regimes then there's clearly no point in this conversation.

Sir I'm going to have to ask you to stop trying to move the goalposts, I don't hate yellow or brown people. I really do not hate anyone. Unfortunately at times loss of life is just an unfortunate event. It's a risk we have to take.