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It doesn't go far enough
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It's great
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Their idea is good but the execution is bad
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It's too authoritarian but I understand their reasoning
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Postby Menassa » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:57 pm

Does this mean that when Christians adopt Jewish practices they are violating international law? :blink:
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Postby Anere » Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:59 pm

Cultures are dynamic entities that regularly morph with, collide with, and borrow from other cultures. We have the cultures we have now because of how many cultures before us collided to form new cultures. Banning cultural appropriation is not only a slippery slop but a terrible idea which defies common sense.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:04 pm

Menassa wrote:Does this mean that when Christians adopt Jewish practices they are violating international law? :blink:

"We at the UN want all religions to feel accepted and welcomed by society. However, in order to make sure that they are properly understood in their own context, we must keep Christianity and Judaism separate. This way, those who wish to observe and respect the cultures of their cultural upbringing will feel comfortable and safe, and will not have to worry about borrowing unjustly from another culture-"

"Now wait a minute, Mr. UN, if we separate Judaism and Christianity, you essentially get the 'Positive Christianity' that the Nazis tried to push before and during WW2."

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Postby Vulgar Bulgar » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:17 pm

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Postby Khalisako » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:21 pm

Menassa wrote:Does this mean that when Christians adopt Jewish practices they are violating international law? :blink:

No.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:23 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Menassa wrote:Does this mean that when Christians adopt Jewish practices they are violating international law? :blink:

No.

The logic follows that they would be appropriating certain aspects of Jewish culture...
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Postby Khalisako » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:24 pm

Menassa wrote:
Khalisako wrote:No.

The logic follows that they would be appropriating certain aspects of Jewish culture...

None of which is indigenous to the americas.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:35 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Menassa wrote:The logic follows that they would be appropriating certain aspects of Jewish culture...

None of which is indigenous to the americas.

Only application to the indigenous of the americas?
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Postby Khalisako » Thu Jun 22, 2017 11:44 pm

Menassa wrote:
Khalisako wrote:None of which is indigenous to the americas.

Only application to the indigenous of the americas?

Not only that, but to the indigios of whever that has nothing to do with jeews or christians.
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Postby Greater United American Republics » Fri Jun 23, 2017 12:34 am

Menassa wrote:
Khalisako wrote:None of which is indigenous to the americas.

Only application to the indigenous of the americas?



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Postby Harzberg » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:13 am

This is political correctness gone mad.

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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:50 pm

Harzberg wrote:This is political correctness gone mad.

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Postby Auze » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:02 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Harzberg wrote:This is political correctness gone mad.

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po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
[pəˈlidəkəl kəˈrek(t)nəs]
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political correctitude (noun)
the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

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Postby Sovaal » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:06 pm

Khalisako wrote:
Menassa wrote:Only application to the indigenous of the americas?

Not only that, but to the indigios of whever that has nothing to do with jeews or christians.

Why would it only apply to indigenous populations?
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Postby Grenartia » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:32 pm

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Grenartia wrote:

po·lit·i·cal cor·rect·ness
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political correctitude (noun)
the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.

Not really bad, unless it is extreme


Notice, however, that it is almost exclusively used in a negative sense, and is applied as a perjorative against any progressive idea the speaker doesn't like.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:19 pm

Well Disney was fun whilst fun while it lasted. Let's have one last drink in honour of the company that writes movies, most of which are cultural approciation.
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Postby Harzberg » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:53 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Harzberg wrote:This is political correctness gone mad.

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Political correctness is a right-wing myth, a boogeyman, a form of doublespeak intended to enforce their own brand of what is and is not politically correct to do or say.

Well, to be fair I didn't mean it that way that way at all. What I do mean - and this is anecdotal - I am of Asian descent, I identify as Asian, and folks who are Westerners told me on more than one occasion that the word 'Asian' to describe the group I ate lunch with, or the bench I ate lunch on, is racist. That is what I'm talking about. When people take trying to be inoffensive to an extreme. I was not offended at all at referring to myself as 'Asian', nor were my friends at the time who came from places such as Indonesia, the Philippines, and China, too. Thing is, I get that they mean well, but when they take it too far, then it gets more irritating than helpful.

Now for the article. With the proposed UN legislation, this song by Major Lazer that I like, I fear it could possibly be twisted into falling into the violating fields of "cultural appropriation". What's wrong with that? It's just using aspects of Indian culture, and turning them into entertainment. It's not meaning to demean the Indian culture or people in any way, at all, and the lyrics aren't vulgar, either, rather it's message is positive, talking about positive relationships.

I'd rather that not happen, if it can be helped. I do not know how strictly or loosely the proposed legislation will be informed, but all I can say is that there are better things to do to better the world than enforce "cultural appropropriation".

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Proctopeo wrote:You read the title right, folks: the UN is considering making "cultural appropriation" of indigenous cultural things illegal.. And an article with opposite slant for balance.

What do you think, NSG? Is this reasonable? Is it too authoritarian? Or is it just absurd?

In my personal opinion, this is 1) authoritarian and tyrannical, 2) absurd, and 3) dangerous. I do, however, think at least their heart is in their right place and this doesn't appear to be out of malice, but out of stupidity (t. Hanlon's Razor); essentially, their intentions are well, but their actions aren't.
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Menassa wrote:Does this mean that when Christians adopt Jewish practices they are violating international law? :blink:

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Postby Zarnazia » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:23 am

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Proctopeo wrote:You read the title right, folks: the UN is considering making "cultural appropriation" of indigenous cultural things illegal.. And an article with opposite slant for balance.

What do you think, NSG? Is this reasonable? Is it too authoritarian? Or is it just absurd?

In my personal opinion, this is 1) authoritarian and tyrannical, 2) absurd, and 3) dangerous. I do, however, think at least their heart is in their right place and this doesn't appear to be out of malice, but out of stupidity (t. Hanlon's Razor); essentially, their intentions are well, but their actions aren't.
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I could not agree with you more on that, the UN has become a joke and a tool used by globalists in order to spread their rule to other countries and force them to abide by laws that they have no choice in agreeing in.
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Postby Auze » Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:52 am

The UCOA wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:You read the title right, folks: the UN is considering making "cultural appropriation" of indigenous cultural things illegal.. And an article with opposite slant for balance.

What do you think, NSG? Is this reasonable? Is it too authoritarian? Or is it just absurd?

In my personal opinion, this is 1) authoritarian and tyrannical, 2) absurd, and 3) dangerous. I do, however, think at least their heart is in their right place and this doesn't appear to be out of malice, but out of stupidity (t. Hanlon's Razor); essentially, their intentions are well, but their actions aren't.
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defund them and remove the UN HQ from the USA

That's a little extreme
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Postby Brokpastan » Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:06 am

As someone who is not a "white" american..

....I think "cultural appropriation" is stupid. I don't know what some people are thinking, maybe that it promotes respect for other cultures..
But the truth is, it just separates everyone more, and that causes rascism and xenophobia.

As someone with both Asian and Amerind blood (and probably some African too), I hereby give you all permission to wear kimono and feathered headdresses, get tribal tattoos and use chopsticks.

Because it's f-cking stupid to restrict beautiful clothing and traditions to one colour of skin.
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The UCOA wrote:defund them and remove the UN HQ from the USA

That's a little extreme



Definitely defund the UN

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