[Abortion][REVISED POLL] If you had the power...

[Godular]

So what's your opinion of me punching both you and your friend in the face if I say your political positions enticed me to do so?

While that would be illegal for you, I would not be without blame either, because I did 'poke the bear'.

You know, I once argued for the right to shoot the pope in the face if he took a swing at me after I say bad things about his mother. The point was that it matters not what the provocation might be, there is no reason to respond to spoken words with violence.

The woman dressing like a skank gives a man no excuse to sexually assault her.

The woman having sex does not automagically give the fetus the right to use the woman's body without her consent.

Your rape apologism and victim blaming are some of the most virulently misogynistic things I have ever read on this forum, and if your 'female friend' feels the same way, it only shows that women can be misogynistic too.

[Godular]

Murder is murder. There is no difference. Enticing the rapist in any way, even passively (how you are dressed), puts you at fault as well as him.

Wtf is this shit?

Like seriously you are either a troll or one of the most distasteful human beings I've ever had the displeasure of meeting

Holy shit.

Common ground!

[Greater Gilead]

2. A pregnancy is the result of the woman's choices, with no exceptions.

Not even for 5 year olds?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina

Or take the list of mothers at most 10 years old:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_y ... th_mothers

Are they all responsible for their pregnancies?
Or did they all entice their rapists by being flirtatious and dressing sexy?

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Not even for 5 year olds?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina

Or take the list of mothers at most 10 years old:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_y ... th_mothers

Are they all responsible for their pregnancies?
Or did they all entice their rapists by being flirtatious and dressing sexy?

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

Are you seriously defending paedophilia on the basis of victim blaming now? Because that's what you appear to be doing, presenting a legal defence against the charge of paedophilia on the basis of victim blaming.

[Ventlimer]

Wtf is this shit?

Like seriously you are either a troll or one of the most distasteful human beings I've ever had the displeasure of meeting

Holy shit.

Common ground!

I didnt think anyone like this existed. Never in all my years on earth have I heard such outright victim blaming as that

[Greater Gilead]

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

Are you seriously defending paedophilia on the basis of victim blaming now?

NO. It is very wrong.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Are you seriously defending paedophilia on the basis of victim blaming now?

NO. It is very wrong.

You are presenting a defence for paedophilia on the basis of victim blaming, explain this to us.

[Godular]

Not even for 5 year olds?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina

Or take the list of mothers at most 10 years old:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_y ... th_mothers

Are they all responsible for their pregnancies?
Or did they all entice their rapists by being flirtatious and dressing sexy?

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

That is such bullshit. You're automatically assuming that the girl invited it in some way...

Dude, rape will still happen even if the woman wears a freaking Burkha and only skitters about during the daytime. Your argument about rape is positively primeval.

[Ifreann]

Not even for 5 year olds?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina

Or take the list of mothers at most 10 years old:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_y ... th_mothers

Are they all responsible for their pregnancies?
Or did they all entice their rapists by being flirtatious and dressing sexy?

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

Holy shit, you are actually blaming ten year old girls for being raped.

Yeah, okay, that's more than enough for me. Iffy out.

[Greater Gilead]

Murder is murder. There is no difference. Enticing the rapist in any way, even passively (how you are dressed), puts you at fault as well as him.

Wtf is this shit?

Like seriously you are either a troll or one of the most distasteful human beings I've ever had the displeasure of meeting

I am not a troll. these are my real life beliefs, and of all my friends.

[Ventlimer]

Not even for 5 year olds?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina

Or take the list of mothers at most 10 years old:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_y ... th_mothers

Are they all responsible for their pregnancies?
Or did they all entice their rapists by being flirtatious and dressing sexy?

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

This is pedophilia. It is not the 10 year olds fault that her prepubescent body was exposed to someone who had a mental illness. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

[Ventlimer]

Wtf is this shit?

Like seriously you are either a troll or one of the most distasteful human beings I've ever had the displeasure of meeting

I am not a troll. these are my real life beliefs, and of all my friends.

This makes me physically ill.

[Godular]

Holy shit.

Common ground!

I didnt think anyone like this existed. Never in all my years on earth have I heard such outright victim blaming as that

Eye-opening, innit? Just goes to show that this forum pushes boundaries.

Not at all excusing what the guy is saying though. That shit is unconscionable.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Wtf is this shit?

Like seriously you are either a troll or one of the most distasteful human beings I've ever had the displeasure of meeting

I am not a troll. these are my real life beliefs, and of all my friends.

Your real life beliefs blame 10 year old girls for being raped.

That's fucking disgusting.

[Omnonia]

Except that literally any force used in the heat of the moment out of genuine fear for your life is justified.

No. Absolutely not, and I'm glad that our legal system very firmly disagrees with you.

[Greater Gilead]

Child abuse as a subsection of rape is sometimes an exception, but by ten, well, I have seen many ten year olds dress in an enticing manner. (It's still very wrong for the man, but the girl is not innocent either.)

Dude, rape will still happen even if the woman wears a freaking Burkha and only skitters about during the daytime. Your argument about rape is positively primeval.

Unfortunately, due to evil people, this is true, but it would happen way less. (I am not saying the burka should be required, that's almost too far.)

[Greater Gilead]

I am not a troll. these are my real life beliefs, and of all my friends.

Your real life beliefs blame 10 year old girls for being raped.

That's fucking disgusting.

NO, I do not. The man involved is a twisted, evil person, but in the case of minors I guess we should blame the parents for not teaching right and/or exerting their duty as a parent to protect their children.

[Salandriagado]

Except that literally any force used in the heat of the moment out of genuine fear for your life is justified.

No. Absolutely not, and I'm glad that our legal system very firmly disagrees with you.

Unfortunately for you, it doesn't. Specifically, I refer you to Paragraph 33 of your criminal code.

[Ventlimer]

I can't do this. The rant and insults that would spew from me would get me banned. I'll see you guys later.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Your real life beliefs blame 10 year old girls for being raped.

That's fucking disgusting.

NO, I do not. The man involved is a twisted, evil person, but in the case of minors I guess we should blame the parents for not teaching right and/or exerting their duty as a parent to protect their children.

You can't walk it back. You said the 10 year old isn't innocent.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Your real life beliefs blame 10 year old girls for being raped.

That's fucking disgusting.

NO, I do not. The man involved is a twisted, evil person, but in the case of minors I guess we should blame the parents for not teaching right and/or exerting their duty as a parent to protect their children.

NO. It is very wrong.

You are presenting a defence for paedophilia on the basis of victim blaming, explain this to us.

[Greater Gilead]

NO, I do not. The man involved is a twisted, evil person, but in the case of minors I guess we should blame the parents for not teaching right and/or exerting their duty as a parent to protect their children.

You can't walk it back. You said the 10 year old isn't innocent.

At ten they are old enough to comprehend some things, but most of the fault lies with the parents. (Of course, MOST of it is with the rapist, I'm talking about the 'victim's' part.)

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You can't walk it back. You said the 10 year old isn't innocent.

At ten they are old enough to comprehend some things, but most of the fault lies with the parents. (Of course, MOST of it is with the rapist, I'm talking about the 'victim's' part.)

Your only option was to retract that heinous statement, you chose to double down, hell even triple down.

[Greater Gilead]

At ten they are old enough to comprehend some things, but most of the fault lies with the parents. (Of course, MOST of it is with the rapist, I'm talking about the 'victim's' part.)

Your only option was to retract that heinous statement, you chose to double down.

I am not retracting, just clarifying as I thought that most people would understand the parents role in this. The ten year old is not completely innocent. (The man is still a twisted, evil, person. I'm NOT excusing him in the least.)

[Godular]

Dude, rape will still happen even if the woman wears a freaking Burkha and only skitters about during the daytime. Your argument about rape is positively primeval.

Unfortunately, due to evil people, this is true, but it would happen way less. (I am not saying the burka should be required, that's almost too far.)

No, it would not. It matters not one damn bit what the woman wears. As a matter of fact, the woman can initially consent to sex, and during the act withdraw that consent. The guy had then better get the hell off lickitty-damn-split or it's a stint in jail at best.

An early grave at worst, and no cop would take issue with it.