[Abortion][REVISED POLL] If you had the power...

[Greater Gilead]

If you push them past the snap point, yes it is your fault.

If I "push" a sexual psychopath past his immature snap point it's nobody's fault but his.

So if I punch a guy, and he 'snaps', and beats me up, who's fault is it? Mine, duh!

[Alvecia]

If I "push" a sexual psychopath past his immature snap point it's nobody's fault but his.

So if I punch a guy, and he 'snaps', and beats me up, who's fault is it?

Both actually.
Yours for not having the restraint to not punch him, and his for not having the restraint to not punch you.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

If I "push" a sexual psychopath past his immature snap point it's nobody's fault but his.

So if I punch a guy, and he 'snaps', and beats me up, who's fault is it?

I didn't "punch" a sexual psychopath by choosing the "wrong" clothes to wear.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Which isn't the fault of the people they snap at.

If you push them past the snap point, yes it is your fault.

No, no it isn't. That doesn't really work for any situation.

I interact with a lot of people I'd like to punch right in the jaw on a regular basis but I don't, and if I do it's nobodies fault except mine. Likewise, if I see a sexy lady wearing sexy things it's only my fault if I force myself on her. This isn't rocket science.

[Greater Gilead]

So if I punch a guy, and he 'snaps', and beats me up, who's fault is it?

Both actually.
Yours for not having the restraint to not punch him, and his for not having the restraint to not punch you.

But you say it's not the woman's fault at all if she pushes a man past his snap point?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Both actually.
Yours for not having the restraint to not punch him, and his for not having the restraint to not punch you.

But you say it's not the woman's fault at all if she pushes a man past his snap point?

So if I punch a guy, and he 'snaps', and beats me up, who's fault is it?

I didn't "punch" a sexual psychopath by choosing the "wrong" clothes to wear.

[Greater Gilead]

But you say it's not the woman's fault at all if she pushes a man past his snap point?

I didn't "punch" a sexual psychopath by choosing the "wrong" clothes to wear.

You still pushed him past his snap point.

[Alvecia]

Both actually.
Yours for not having the restraint to not punch him, and his for not having the restraint to not punch you.

But you say it's not the woman's fault at all if she pushes a man past his snap point?

She didn't snap. You did, in your scenario.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You still pushed him past his snap point.

A sexual psychopath has effectively no snap point because they aren't empathic in the same way we are.

[Greater Gilead]

But you say it's not the woman's fault at all if she pushes a man past his snap point?

She didn't snap. You did, in your scenario.

Sort of true. Point is, both of us made a stupid move, made someone snap, and so we all are at fault, right?

[Alvecia]

She didn't snap. You did, in your scenario.

Sort of true. Point is, both of us made a stupid move, made someone snap, and so we all are at fault, right?

Not quite. It's not the making someone snap that makes you at fault, but the snapping.

[Greater Gilead]

Sort of true. Point is, both of us made a stupid move, made someone snap, and so we all are at fault, right?

Not quite. It's not the making someone snap that makes you at fault, but the snapping.

So if I call somebody the n-word, and he snaps, it's not my fault? WRONG!!!

[Alvecia]

Not quite. It's not the making someone snap that makes you at fault, but the snapping.

So if I call somebody the n-word, and he snaps, it's not my fault? WRONG!!!

Right, in a way. I wouldn't condone them punching you, that's for sure. That's on them.

[Greater Gilead]

So if I call somebody the n-word, and he snaps, it's not my fault? WRONG!!!

Right, in a way. I wouldn't condone them punching you, that's for sure. That's on them.

Wow. What if I called YOU a n*****? You would get upset, right? And who would likely get a forum ban? ME, of course!

[Alvecia]

Right, in a way. I wouldn't condone them punching you, that's for sure. That's on them.

Wow. What if I called YOU a n*****? You would get upset, right?

Probably not, being white.

And who would likely get a forum ban? ME, of course!

The rules of this forum, surprisingly, aren't the same as in real life.

[Greater Gilead]

Wow. What if I called YOU a n*****? You would get upset, right?

Probably not, being white.

And who would likely get a forum ban? ME, of course!

The rules of this forum, surprisingly, aren't the same as in real life.

I understand that. If I try to start a fight IRL, though, you are saying its not my fault? Logic, Please!

[Alvecia]

Probably not, being white.

The rules of this forum, surprisingly, aren't the same as in real life.

I understand that. If I try to start a fight IRL, though, you are saying its not my fault? Logic, Please!

It would be your fault, cause you snapped first and started a fight. Self defense adds some muddy water in there mind.

This is more than a bit off topic, come to think of it.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Probably not, being white.

The rules of this forum, surprisingly, aren't the same as in real life.

I understand that. If I try to start a fight IRL, though, you are saying its not my fault? Logic, Please!

A woman not dressed like a bloody Amish is not picking a fight with anybody.

[Greater Gilead]

I understand that. If I try to start a fight IRL, though, you are saying its not my fault? Logic, Please!

A woman not dressed like a bloody Amish is not picking a fight with anybody.

No, but she is pushing men slightly, if the wrong one is around, past his limits.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

A woman not dressed like a bloody Amish is not picking a fight with anybody.

No, but she is pushing men slightly, if the wrong one is around, past his limits.

If there's a sexual psychopath around then it's obviously not her bloody fault if she gets attacked because she will get attacked regardless whether or not she's in a burka or bikini.

[Alvecia]

A woman not dressed like a bloody Amish is not picking a fight with anybody.

No, but she is pushing men slightly, if the wrong one is around, past his limits.

Aaaand, that's on him.

How do you plan on linking this back to abortion?

[Greater Gilead]

No, but she is pushing men slightly, if the wrong one is around, past his limits.

Aaaand, that's on him.

How do you plan on linking this back to abortion?

We got here from abortion in rape cases.

[Alvecia]

Aaaand, that's on him.

How do you plan on linking this back to abortion?

We got here from abortion in rape cases.

And what? The premise is that if the woman is "at fault" then she shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion?

[Washington Resistance Army]

We got here from abortion in rape cases.

And what? The premise is that if the woman is "at fault" then she shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion?

Yes, but he doesn't hold that position for other situations.

[Greater Gilead]

And what? The premise is that if the woman is "at fault" then she shouldn't be allowed to get an abortion?

Yes, but he doesn't hold that position for other situations.

What do you mean?