[Abortion][REVISED POLL] If you had the power...

[Genivaria]

I mean, it shouldn't be opposed so long as there are things like medical emergencies that could kill the mother or the baby has already died inside the womb.

It shouldn't be opposed for these exceptional emergencies. Never claimed it should.

But an elective abortion in the 8th or 9th month? (Which yes, I have heard crazy radfems call their "right to choose". Yes, that explicit scenario. No, they did not mean C-secs. No, not only in emergencies. Yes, I am sure.)

Ban the shit out of that, and lock both the mother and the medic up for a good couple of years if and when it's done.

I was under the impression that abortions that late are extremely discouraged by the doctors as being dangerous.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It shouldn't be opposed for these exceptional emergencies. Never claimed it should.

But an elective abortion in the 8th or 9th month? (Which yes, I have heard crazy radfems call their "right to choose". Yes, that explicit scenario. No, they did not mean C-secs. No, not only in emergencies. Yes, I am sure.)

Ban the shit out of that, and lock both the mother and the medic up for a good couple of years if and when it's done.

I was under the impression that abortions that late are extremely discouraged by the doctors as being dangerous.

Like I said before, in spite of these people's approach, and Om's fears, no doctor in their right mind would say at the 8th or 9th month, unless there's something horribly wrong with the pregnancy, "let's kill the baby".

[NERVUN]

Ladies and gentlebeings, this thread is locked for Modly trawling. It shall be unlocked when I'm done with it. Please kindly stand by. Get yourselves a nice cup of coffee or other drink.

Edit: Gang, this is going to take longer than though as I feel the need to consult the hivemind. Make MORE coffee! Get yourself a nice book. I recommend Lexicon or Jennifer Government. -NERV

[NERVUN]

My apologies for taking so long. Ruling for the reported posts is here: viewtopic.php?p=32035709#p32035709

Wtf is this shit?

Like seriously you are either a troll or one of the most distasteful human beings I've ever had the displeasure of meeting

*** Warned for flaming/trollnaming ***

Thread reopened.

[Dylar]

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

[Ifreann]

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

From the name alone I'm going to dismiss it as shit.

Oh, and I see from the URL that this is a Texas law. So bullshit.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

It doesn't do anything, really, other than to deal with a very rare procedure nowadays anyways.

The law as it stands is virtue-signaling from the Texas legislature, nothing more, nothing less.

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

From the name alone I'm going to dismiss it as shit.

Oh, and I see from the URL that this is a Texas law. So bullshit.

It just says that you can't perform abortions that dismembers the fetus after the 2nd trimester. Which is actually not a thing that happens anymore in abortion clinics.

This is nothing more than virtue signaling so Abbot can win another term, given next year he's up for re-election. The bill is basically unenforceable.

[Dylar]

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

From the name alone I'm going to dismiss it as shit.

Oh, and I see from the URL that this is a Texas law. So bullshit.

I mean, I did say if you wanted to. Didn't say you needed to. Just wanted to get some discussion going is all.

[Godular]

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

Another token measure they practically want to defend from lawsuits... Texas' legislature seems to enjoy paying bills caused by their own stupidity.

And I say that as an actual Texan...

[Ventlimer]

Here's news on the recently passed Unborn Child Protection From Dismemberment Act if anyone wants to read up on that.

Another token measure they practically want to defend from lawsuits... Texas' legislature seems to enjoy paying bills caused by their own stupidity.

And I say that as an actual Texan...

I've noted that the Texan government likes to just save face a lot. The more they stay in the news for some ineffective and embattled move, the better they feel.

[The Federal Kingdom Of Zuhi]

I would:

A: Keep abortions legal.

B: Ask congress to create a federal bill that can force public high schools to give sex ed classes to women explaining how to stay safe during "da intercourse".

C: Veto any bills that attempt to enforce this on private, charter or christian schools.

D: Ensure free contraceptives.

[Greed and Death]

Shrug my shoulders and leave it to other people to decide.

[Ventlimer]

I love hpw quickly this thread was vacated after the mods trawled through

[Southeastern Xiatao]

In my own opinion. It really none of my business to tell what a woman wants to do with her body. But I also think that nobody has a right to tell a woman that she can't get an abortion for whatever reason.

But once again it's none of my business.

[Dylar]

I love hpw quickly this thread was vacated after the mods trawled through

Could be that they realized that the debate has been going around in circles over and over again. Or they took NERV's suggestion and decided to go read Jennifer Government, or Lexicon.

[Godular]

I love hpw quickly this thread was vacated after the mods trawled through

Been playing Xcom 2. Love the voicepack mods.

[Veganopia]

Illegal exsspt for the mothers health

[Godular]

Illegal exsspt for the mothers health

At the risk of initiating yet another go-round: why?

[Godular]

It would be nice if people explained how they got to their position... doesn't happen enough nowadays.

[Dylar]

It would be nice if people explained how they got to their position... doesn't happen enough nowadays.

Would you like to know how I got to my position?

[Genivaria]

It would be nice if people explained how they got to their position... doesn't happen enough nowadays.

Would you like to know how I got to my position?

Obviously.

[United Empire of Humanity]

let us begin with silly axioms:

freedom of agency in one's life affairs is important as long as no sapient beings are harmed

freedom of agency includes manipulation of the body and its' forms

freedom of agency is only applicable to sapient beings

sapient beings are entities which can act with whatever the hell "sound judgment" is

and then continue with more silly statements:

the fetus is inside the uterus of the woman

the woman, as a sapient being, can have freedom of agency recognized by a state power

the fetus and the woman are human and belong to a category of creatures which are agreed to generally possess sapience barring extreme youth, age or illness called "human"

"human" expressing sapience at the present time is therefore capable unless impaired by youth, age or illness to use their freedom of agency

therefore the woman can refuse to support fetus with her body

and it's all good

[Brocialist]

Other than extreme circumstances, such as Stalin needing to expand the population of the USSR, I don't think abortion should be outlawed. Preferably birth control would be better but emergencies do happen.

[Godular]

It would be nice if people explained how they got to their position... doesn't happen enough nowadays.

Would you like to know how I got to my position?

I would indeed, though I have the distinct impression that your signature gives substantial clues.

[Dylar]

Would you like to know how I got to my position?

I would indeed, though I have the distinct impression that your signature gives substantial clues.

I got my views from an uncomfortable conversation with my dad. I asked him what Planned Parenthood does since I had no idea that it was an abortion clinic. Then after he answered that, I asked him what an abortion was, where he gave me the scientific definition, then branched out about how the fetus is a unique individual. After that, I asked about the Church's views on it, and he said something along the lines of "The Church teaches that abortion is murder, and as such abortion is a sin."