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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:34 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
Galloism wrote:I liked John Oliver's summary.
"Congress, 534 people less annoying than Ted Cruz, and also, Ted Cruz."

530 at the moment. Four seats are vacant.

Vacant seats are also less annoying than Ted Cruz.

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Postby Athrax » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:35 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
Galloism wrote:I liked John Oliver's summary.
"Congress, 534 people less annoying than Ted Cruz, and also, Ted Cruz."

530 at the moment. Four seats are vacant.


Nah, that is still somehow less annoying

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:35 pm

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How about call the fallacy, then explain why its a fallacy. Most who use them aren't aware that they are fallacies.

Or I name the fallacy, and if they ask what it is I can explain it to them.

Or some times I just link to an explanation of the fallacy. Again, I didn't do this beacuse I am really tired today.


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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:35 pm

Ifreann wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:530 at the moment. Four seats are vacant.

Vacant seats are also less annoying than Ted Cruz.

They're also beyond doubt not people, so...
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:38 pm

Corrian wrote:
Thunder Place wrote:Oh, missed that part. Too bad. :(

Pretty sure supporting attempted murderers isn't very acceptable around here.

TIL you can't vehemently oppose criminals' behavior and still not want them dead.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:39 pm

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Galloism wrote:I liked John Oliver's summary.
"Congress, 534 people less annoying than Ted Cruz, and also, Ted Cruz."

530 at the moment. Four seats are vacant.

Details.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:42 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:45 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Corrian wrote:Pretty sure supporting attempted murderers isn't very acceptable around here.

TIL you can't vehemently oppose criminals' behavior and still not want them dead.

That's not what happened here
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Postby Donut section » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:52 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Vacant seats are also less annoying than Ted Cruz.

They're also beyond doubt not people, so...


Are you sure Ted Cruz is?

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:54 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:TIL you can't vehemently oppose criminals' behavior and still not want them dead.

That's not what happened here

Seemed to me that Thunder Place was happy about the assassination attempt.
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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:18 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:TIL you can't vehemently oppose criminals' behavior and still not want them dead.

That's not what happened here

Thunder Place wrote:
Ifreann wrote:He's dead, yo, he doesn't need a legal defence.

Oh, missed that part. Too bad. :(

Kind of looks like it.
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Postby Torrocca » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:32 pm

Good to see none of the victims died; hoping for the best for them.
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Postby Oldenfranck » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:34 pm

Is Scalise going to make it or not? I have not been able to find any more details since.

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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:35 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:Is Scalise going to make it or not? I have not been able to find any more details since.

The hospital says he's in critical condition.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:36 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Shooter dead. Majority Whip in surgery. Trump talking nonsense.


Also know that apparently he was a Bernie bro. A James T. Hodgkinson has been confirmed. Making it likely this had political motivations.

Some snippets from his images and social activities.

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Postby Oldenfranck » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:41 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:Is Scalise going to make it or not? I have not been able to find any more details since.

The hospital says he's in critical condition.


It's the pelvis, and while it would be painful as heck, it usually should not be fatal unless blood loss or other complications. But it was also a big slug that hit him, an sks round, which is similar if not identicle to the AK-47 round, and those are powerful.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:44 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:The hospital says he's in critical condition.


It's the pelvis, and while it would be painful as heck, it usually should not be fatal unless blood loss or other complications. But it was also a big slug that hit him, an sks round, which is similar if not identicle to the AK-47 round, and those are powerful.

It is identical to the AK round, rifles are built around the cartridge, not the other way around.

An SKS is basically an AWB-compliant AK from the outside.

"Critical" and "life-threatening" aren't the same thing. He's been shot in the general body mass, yes, it's a critical injury. Is he dying? Probably not, let's hope.
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Postby Oldenfranck » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:46 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Oldenfranck wrote:
It's the pelvis, and while it would be painful as heck, it usually should not be fatal unless blood loss or other complications. But it was also a big slug that hit him, an sks round, which is similar if not identicle to the AK-47 round, and those are powerful.

It is identical to the AK round, rifles are built around the cartridge, not the other way around.

An SKS is basically an AWB-compliant AK from the outside.

"Critical" and "life-threatening" aren't the same thing. He's been shot in the general body mass, yes, it's a critical injury. Is he dying? Probably not, let's hope.


I hope you are correct.

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Postby Athrax » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:48 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:It is identical to the AK round, rifles are built around the cartridge, not the other way around.

An SKS is basically an AWB-compliant AK from the outside.

"Critical" and "life-threatening" aren't the same thing. He's been shot in the general body mass, yes, it's a critical injury. Is he dying? Probably not, let's hope.


I hope you are correct.


Given the speed with which he was taken to the hospital, his chance of survival is pretty good, though if there was major damage to bone that could slow his recovery

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Postby Luminesa » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:55 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Also know that apparently he was a Bernie bro. A James T. Hodgkinson has been confirmed. Making it likely this had political motivations.

Some snippets from his images and social activities.

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Why did you take this from Louder with Crowder?

I guess wherever you find it is wherever you find it.
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Postby Luminesa » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:00 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Please don't blame Bernie for this.

The guy who shot him was just a crazy asshole and is not represent all of the left wing.

MC United wrote:It's fake news! Fake news, I say! The attempted assassin MUST have been a right-wing Christian NRA member! It was an obvious attempt to discredit the political left in general and Bernie Sanders in particular. This must STOP!!!


That's a strawman fallacy statement.

First of all, Herp, I think this guy is...not being serious. Second, Bernie supporters themselves are not necessarily representative of the entire left-wing. So there's no reason to get into anything like that.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:04 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Why did you take this from Louder with Crowder?

I guess wherever you find it is wherever you find it.

There are places so pointlessly biased and untrustworthy you just shouldn't bother.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:12 pm

Oldenfranck wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:The hospital says he's in critical condition.


It's the pelvis, and while it would be painful as heck, it usually should not be fatal unless blood loss or other complications. But it was also a big slug that hit him, an sks round, which is similar if not identicle to the AK-47 round, and those are powerful.


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:15 pm

Luminesa wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Please don't blame Bernie for this.

The guy who shot him was just a crazy asshole and is not represent all of the left wing.



That's a strawman fallacy statement.

First of all, Herp, I think this guy is...not being serious. Second, Bernie supporters themselves are not necessarily representative of the entire left-wing. So there's no reason to get into anything like that.


I know, but that's what this guy was saying

MC United wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Please don't blame Bernie for this.

The guy who shot him was just a crazy asshole and is not represent all of the left wing.



That's a strawman fallacy statement.


It appears that your sarcasm detector is out of order as well.

The larger point remains. Bernie, as well as the entirety of the extreme left wing in the States, has helped create the environment in which this attempted assassination could be imagined, let alone committed. THEY bear responsibility for their actions

Btw: How interesting that leftists and Islamic terrorists never seem to represent anyone but themselves, yet rightists and Christians represent all rightists and Christians when one of them goes astray.

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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:17 pm

Donut section wrote:
The Princes of the Universe wrote:They're also beyond doubt not people, so...

Are you sure Ted Cruz is?

My thoughts on politicians (not terribly flattering of them, to say the least) aren't exactly a secret around here.
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