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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:17 pm

Genivaria wrote:

He got corrected from million to 93 individuals...and yet he used the word million 3 times before being corrected.
How do you NOT catch that?

Also if that's a true number (93 gun victims a day in a country of 300 million) I'd say that's pretty damn good.


Funniest thing is, is that at that rate, America would be depopulated in just over three days, and the world in just over 75.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:17 pm

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Genivaria wrote:He got corrected from million to 93 individuals...and yet he used the word million 3 times before being corrected.
How do you NOT catch that?

Dunno.

There's like 320 million Americans. At least, there were yesterday. We're dwindling fast, apparently.

300 mil is what I heard in HS so I kinda just round down to that.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:18 pm

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Genivaria wrote:Well that's something at least.
After spending 5 minutes on FB I noticed a page calling for a ban on 'Assault Rifles' because of this, to which my only thought was "well at least we're not calling them 'Assault WEAPONS' anymore.


One bullshit term is as good as another. Did you see the idiot saying we lose 93 MILLION people a day to gun violence?

Pretty sure he misspoke.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:18 pm

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i know. I saw the emoticons earlier.


Fairly efficient way to express myself.

Maybe I should use my more favorite ones.


Save 'em for when I truly humor you. :)
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:20 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:He got corrected from million to 93 individuals...and yet he used the word million 3 times before being corrected.
How do you NOT catch that?

Dunno.

There's like 320 million Americans. At least, there were yesterday. We're dwindling fast, apparently.


Dude, I told you one more of your little "jokes" could really end the game.

Shit, the downside to immortality is never ending dad jokes. >:(
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Postby Xelsis » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:20 pm

Gotta love Governor McAuliffe, saying the wrong number 3 million times in a row.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:21 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Fairly efficient way to express myself.

Maybe I should use my more favorite ones.


Save 'em for when I truly humor you. :)


Like calling me pretentious?

Rest assured, you are amusement.

Edit:typo. you are freeto make fun of mu piss-poor typing.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:22 pm

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I mean, they should beacuse fallacies are logically incorrect that undermine the argument's logical validity and leads to a recognition of an argument being unsound.

I just wanted to say it in that way beacuse i'm tired and can't argue politely right now.


It's better to explain why something is wrong, instead of using the word fallacy - it just makes you look smart.


Why? Fallacies exist for a reason, why should I not use them to prove my opponent wrong?

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
It's better to explain why something is wrong, instead of using the word fallacy - it just makes you look smart.


Why? Fallacies exist for a reason, why should I not use them to prove my opponent wrong?


How about call the fallacy, then explain why its a fallacy. Most who use them aren't aware that they are fallacies.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:26 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Galloism wrote:Dunno.

There's like 320 million Americans. At least, there were yesterday. We're dwindling fast, apparently.


Dude, I told you one more of your little "jokes" could really end the game.

Shit, the downside to immortality is never ending dad jokes. >:(

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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:28 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So what exactly do we know so far?


Shooter dead. Majority Whip in surgery. Trump talking nonsense.


Also know that apparently he was a Bernie bro. A James T. Hodgkinson has been confirmed. Making it likely this had political motivations.

Some snippets from his images and social activities.

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:28 pm

Galloism wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Dude, I told you one more of your little "jokes" could really end the game.

Shit, the downside to immortality is never ending dad jokes. >:(

I live to serve.


*nod*

To be served.

Sith under glass I think.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:30 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Shooter dead. Majority Whip in surgery. Trump talking nonsense.


Also know that apparently he was a Bernie bro. A James T. Hodgkinson has been confirmed. Making it likely this had political motivations.

Some snippets from his images and social activities.

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I'm going to assume his FB page was taken down because I can't find it.
Wanted to find out what that profile page says.

Also what is it with extremists and loving to put the US flag in their profile page?
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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:35 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Also know that apparently he was a Bernie bro. A James T. Hodgkinson has been confirmed. Making it likely this had political motivations.

Some snippets from his images and social activities.


I'm going to assume his FB page was taken down because I can't find it.
Wanted to find out what that profile page says.

Also what is it with extremists and loving to put the US flag in their profile page?


Possibly, I know CNN made a big song and dance about going through his social profile. Not sure if FB got a 'investigation only' filter to some of their channels, but it's likely it's been archived by now before FB got their asses onto it.

On the good side it seems to be a lone nut. On the bad side, just like with one of the political shootings under Obama branded a fear of right wing extremism from the establishment, this will likely do the same on left wing extremism since an effective precedence was set.

Pendulum really has swung in the other direction.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:38 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
Save 'em for when I truly humor you. :)


Like calling me pretentious?

Rest assured, you are amusement.

Edit:typo. you are freeto make fun of mu piss-poor typing.


You misunderstood. I was calling the other one pretentious. I should have cleared the range of hapless pedestrians strolling into the crossfire.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:42 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Genivaria wrote:I'm going to assume his FB page was taken down because I can't find it.
Wanted to find out what that profile page says.

Also what is it with extremists and loving to put the US flag in their profile page?


Possibly, I know CNN made a big song and dance about going through his social profile. Not sure if FB got a 'investigation only' filter to some of their channels, but it's likely it's been archived by now before FB got their asses onto it.

On the good side it seems to be a lone not. On the bad side, just like with one of the political shootings under Obama branded a fear of right wing extremism from the establishment, this will likely do the same on left wing extremism since an effective precedence was set.

Pendulum really has swung in the other direction.


One of the interesting thing about looking at this from the long-term perspective, is just how the pendulum swings. I count from Carter (but have looke into the past), and have noted, that we swing from left to right regular basis. We will see four to twelve years left, four to twelve right.

I knew we were going to see a shift to the right this time around (Trump was a bit of a surprise though).. Putting up hillary was the left shooting itself. Again a surprise.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:43 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Liriena wrote:Nice metaphor, but it doesn't really excuse the overgeneralizations.


Of course not. Now that we are certain the shooter is left-wing we must stress that all the violent rhetoric on his Facebook is merely performance art.

Sure, why not? I mean, if a bunch of kids (and a few sad grown-ups) get to "ironically" peddle neo-nazi propaganda, we might as well do the same for this guy, no? ;)
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:44 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:You have failed to demonstrate violent rhetoric, save for taking one word out of context.


That's the spirit! Needs MOAR "Republicans are killing millions of people with their health care proposals! We must RESIST!" tho.

Where's the lie?
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:45 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Like calling me pretentious?

Rest assured, you are amusement.

Edit:typo. you are freeto make fun of mu piss-poor typing.


You misunderstood. I was calling the other one pretentious. I should have cleared the range of hapless pedestrians strolling into the crossfire.

Tracked it back. I see, and apologies.

Yer still a noob though. :p
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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:48 pm

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Cannot think of a name wrote:What emails are you getting? Every thing I get with resist involves calling people and holding marches. Opposing toxic legislation isn't a violent act, it's democracy. Where ever this guy got the fucked off idea that this was okay doesn't give the administration a "free shot" at their shitty policy proposals.


Brah. It's not like people killed by Republican health care proposals will stop voting for Democrats.

It's so nice to see that piece of right-wing propaganda decay into self-parody. :3
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Postby Herskerstad » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:50 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Possibly, I know CNN made a big song and dance about going through his social profile. Not sure if FB got a 'investigation only' filter to some of their channels, but it's likely it's been archived by now before FB got their asses onto it.

On the good side it seems to be a lone not. On the bad side, just like with one of the political shootings under Obama branded a fear of right wing extremism from the establishment, this will likely do the same on left wing extremism since an effective precedence was set.

Pendulum really has swung in the other direction.


One of the interesting thing about looking at this from the long-term perspective, is just how the pendulum swings. I count from Carter (but have looke into the past), and have noted, that we swing from left to right regular basis. We will see four to twelve years left, four to twelve right.

I knew we were going to see a shift to the right this time around (Trump was a bit of a surprise though).. Putting up hillary was the left shooting itself. Again a surprise.


True, I got to be honest that I sort of fear either side getting a Japanese LDP-style advantage demographically, which the Dems seem most likely to curry in the long run, though if they screw up their blue collar history then they might just be able to lose that.

That being said, and I don't like it, I imagine this almost is going to be the mirror reflection of one of the famed shootings under Obama, but I forget which one when a Dem person got shot in the head and survived. . Sufficed to say a lot of association by proxy and gun debate nonsense surrounded that story to tarnish the opposition.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:51 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Herskerstad wrote:
Possibly, I know CNN made a big song and dance about going through his social profile. Not sure if FB got a 'investigation only' filter to some of their channels, but it's likely it's been archived by now before FB got their asses onto it.

On the good side it seems to be a lone not. On the bad side, just like with one of the political shootings under Obama branded a fear of right wing extremism from the establishment, this will likely do the same on left wing extremism since an effective precedence was set.

Pendulum really has swung in the other direction.


One of the interesting thing about looking at this from the long-term perspective, is just how the pendulum swings. I count from Carter (but have looke into the past), and have noted, that we swing from left to right regular basis. We will see four to twelve years left, four to twelve right.

I knew we were going to see a shift to the right this time around (Trump was a bit of a surprise though).. Putting up hillary was the left shooting itself. Again a surprise.

So does that mean that for at least a few years we're going to see an upswing in actual communism or something?

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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:51 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:You have failed to demonstrate violent rhetoric, save for taking one word out of context.


That's the spirit! Needs MOAR "Republicans are killing millions of people with their health care proposals! We must RESIST!" tho.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:52 pm

Galloism wrote:
Genivaria wrote:.......Okay I need a link to this.
That's just....what.

You're sure they said million?

Yeah. That happened.

Talking is hard, y'all.

(I say it as someone who gets tongue-tied every two words. :lol: )
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:53 pm

Herskerstad wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
One of the interesting thing about looking at this from the long-term perspective, is just how the pendulum swings. I count from Carter (but have looke into the past), and have noted, that we swing from left to right regular basis. We will see four to twelve years left, four to twelve right.

I knew we were going to see a shift to the right this time around (Trump was a bit of a surprise though).. Putting up hillary was the left shooting itself. Again a surprise.


True, I got to be honest that I sort of fear either side getting a Japanese LDP-style advantage demographically, which the Dems seem most likely to curry in the long run, though if they screw up their blue collar history then they might just be able to lose that.

That being said, and I don't like it, I imagine this almost is going to be the mirror reflection of one of the famed shootings under Obama, but I forget which one when a Dem person got shot in the head and survived. . Sufficed to say a lot of association by proxy and gun debate nonsense surrounded that story to tarnish the opposition.



That was Gabrielle Giffords in 2011, and I see a mirror of that myself.
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