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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:21 am

Athrax wrote:
Sovaal wrote:$120 bucks?


Yes??? Hence the dollar sign? It's probably complete shit, but it serves my general point about the price being pretty low on some models

No, I've literally never seen a good AR go less then $350 is what I meant.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:21 am

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Athrax wrote:
Yes??? Hence the dollar sign? It's probably complete shit, but it serves my general point about the price being pretty low on some models

No, I've literally never seen a good AR go less then $350 is what I meant.

You can probably get one for $120 if you want it to explode in your hands.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:22 am

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Thunder Place wrote:Oh, missed that part. Too bad. :(

Pretty sure supporting attempted murderers isn't very acceptable around here.

But the attempted murder victims where republicans, so it's all right. /s
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Postby Xuskeuclite » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:22 am

If it was politically motivated I hope he's dead. (Liberals need to get over it.)

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Postby Athrax » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:23 am

Corrian wrote:
Sovaal wrote:No, I've literally never seen a good AR go less then $350 is what I meant.

You can probably get one for $120 if you want it to explode in your hands.


Probably. Like I said, it was 10 second google fu to see what prices would pop up. Either way the cost is hardly prohibitive for someone looking to commit such a crime

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Postby Corrian » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:23 am

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Corrian wrote:Pretty sure supporting attempted murderers isn't very acceptable around here.

But the attempted murder victims where republicans, so it's all right. /s

Also find comments like this pretty worthless to be honest.
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Postby Athrax » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:23 am

Xuskeuclite wrote:If it was politically motivated I hope he's dead. (Liberals need to get over it.)


If it wasn't politically motivated it's ok for him to be alive though?
Either way, pretty sure he's dead

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:23 am

Athrax wrote:
Sovaal wrote:$120 bucks?


Yes??? Hence the dollar sign? It's probably complete shit, but it serves my general point about the price being pretty low on some models


Considering the abysmal accuracy displayed, he might have been using a complete piece of shit.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:23 am

Xuskeuclite wrote:If it was politically motivated I hope he's dead. (Liberals need to get over it.)

He is.

Edit: Also adding liberals need to get over it is pointless.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:24 am

Corrian wrote:
Sovaal wrote:But the attempted murder victims where republicans, so it's all right. /s

Also find comments like this pretty worthless to be honest.

Well it's a shitpost, so yah.
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:25 am

Sovaal wrote:
Athrax wrote:
Yes??? Hence the dollar sign? It's probably complete shit, but it serves my general point about the price being pretty low on some models

No, I've literally never seen a good AR go less then $350 is what I meant.


Mine cost me $850.
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Postby Veridys » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:26 am

Cetacea wrote:so it was terrorism?

Just assume it wasn't until the FBI makes a statement.
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:26 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Sovaal wrote:No, I've literally never seen a good AR go less then $350 is what I meant.


Mine cost me $850.

I've probably got over $1100 in mine and it's alright.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried from time to time." -
Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:28 am

Sovaal wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Mine cost me $850.

I've probably got over $1100 in mine and it's alright.


Mines a Bushmaster, bought used. Came with 17 thirty round mags (I gave away nine of them).
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Postby Soviet Socialist and Peoples Republics » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:28 am

Athrax wrote:
Republic of the Cristo wrote:
I mean, a cheap ar is still hundreds of dollars...


10 second google-fu tells me I could buy one for $120 right now. Not that bad

Smells like gunbroker.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:29 am

Xuskeuclite wrote:If it was politically motivated I hope he's dead. (Liberals need to get over it.)

Get over what?
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:31 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Xuskeuclite wrote:If it was politically motivated I hope he's dead. (Liberals need to get over it.)

Get over what?

Trump, we need to come together, Hillary lost, blah blah blah...
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Ifreann » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:32 am

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Ifreann wrote:One of the Republicans on the scene seemed to think some 50-100 shots were fired at them. He's probably wrong, because I dare say there's nothing quite like getting shot at to throw off your counting, but still, if that was a musket then this Hodgkinson guy was the fucking Flash.

That's not what I meant, I meant it more as a jab at "journalism" nowadays. Eh, I'm just young and edgey.

I'm just amused by the image of the Flash flash-reloading a musket.


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Thunder Place wrote:I should send a couple dollars to help pay for his legal fees. I wonder if Cuba would protect him if we managed to get him a plane?

What if it was rightist firing on Democrats?

Last time that happened the shooter was appointed an attorney who was presumably compensate for her time by the state of Arizona.


Corrian wrote:
Thunder Place wrote:Oh, missed that part. Too bad. :(

Pretty sure supporting attempted murderers isn't very acceptable around here.

I'm sure several posters would object to the shooter getting any legal representation, had he lived.


Xuskeuclite wrote:If it was politically motivated I hope he's dead. (Liberals need to get over it.)

He is dead and that does make it a bit more difficult to ascertain what his motivations were.

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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
Sovaal wrote:That's not what I meant, I meant it more as a jab at "journalism" nowadays. Eh, I'm just young and edgey.

I'm just amused by the image of the Flash flash-reloading a musket.


Heh
Sovaal wrote:What if it was rightist firing on Democrats?

Last time that happened the shooter was appointed an attorney who was presumably compensate for her time by the state of Arizona.

What, shit.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:37 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Well, he was a "democratic socialist" and supported Sanders, so no, he wasn't "hard-core left wing".

The Kalashnikov is no more a weapon of socialism than the AR-15 or FAL are weapons of "capitalism". US commercial orders for civil-spec AKs are the only thing keeping the Kalash factory afloat these days.

Well, having your signature product being what is essentially open sourced in a market not really friendly to your product doesn't make for a good company.

Whaaa??

The Russian Army stopped placing orders for new AK rifles because they've got a billion in warehouses.
Was it not for the US commercial market, the Izmash factory (which builds the AK) would have gone under.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:39 am

Ifreann wrote:I'm sure several posters would object to the shooter getting any legal representation, had he lived.

And this has relevance to what I said how?
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Postby Sovaal » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:40 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Sovaal wrote:Well, having your signature product being what is essentially open sourced in a market not really friendly to your product doesn't make for a good company.

Whaaa??

The Russian Army stopped placing orders for new AK rifles because they've got a billion in warehouses.
Was it not for the US commercial market, the Izmash factory (which builds the AK) would have gone under.

I mainly had foriegn exports in mind, as there/where are hundreds of different manufacturers of Ak rifles, diluting the market for KC.

Also, Russian AKs are banned from import into the US last time I checked, so there goes the US market.
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No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is
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Winston Churchill, 1947.

"Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon – so long as there is no answer to it – gives claws to the weak.” - George Orwell

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:43 am

Sovaal wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Whaaa??

The Russian Army stopped placing orders for new AK rifles because they've got a billion in warehouses.
Was it not for the US commercial market, the Izmash factory (which builds the AK) would have gone under.

I mainly had foriegn exports in mind, as there/where are hundreds of different manufacturers of Ak rifles, diluting the market for KC.

Also, Russian AKs are banned from import into the US last time I checked, so there goes the US market.

There are other nations that produced the AK. Ian from Forgotten Weapons has a Romanian one iirc.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:43 am

Sovaal wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Get over what?

Trump, we need to come together, Hillary lost, blah blah blah...

Oh so the standard don't look behind the curtain thing?
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