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[Luminesa]

...For democratically voting-in a politician...Okay then.

Remember, America is only a Democracy when it suits the Right Wing.

...Obama was voted in (mostly) fairly?...Democratically?...I meannnn...

[Vassenor]

Remember, America is only a Democracy when it suits the Right Wing.

...Obama was voted in (mostly) fairly?...Democratically?...I meannnn...

But every time you bring up Trump losing the popular vote you get drowned out by cries of "BUT MURICA ISN'T A DEMOCRACY SO IT DOESN'T MATTER".

[Luminesa]

...Obama was voted in (mostly) fairly?...Democratically?...I meannnn...

But every time you bring up Trump losing the popular vote you get drowned out by cries of "BUT MURICA ISN'T A DEMOCRACY SO IT DOESN'T MATTER".

...Is the electoral vote not part of a representative democracy?

[Vassenor]

But every time you bring up Trump losing the popular vote you get drowned out by cries of "BUT MURICA ISN'T A DEMOCRACY SO IT DOESN'T MATTER".

...Is the electoral vote not part of a representative democracy?

It's generally considered democratic to give victory to the candidate that the people vote for.

[Cannot think of a name]

My source considers Sanders to be left-wing, so whether I believe he's a centrist or not is ultimately irrelevant. Nulla wants to make it about what I believe because of some weird obsession with me.

No, it's that you have an indefensibly exclusive definition of "left-wing" that stymies rational discussion. Calling James Hodgkinson "right-wing" despite his known political statements and affiliations indicating the opposite still doesn't get us to the "right-wing has committed the vast majority of political violence in America" even if you crown the pile of actual right-wing political violence with the attack on Scalise.

Get a room.

[Nulla Bellum]

No, it's that you have an indefensibly exclusive definition of "left-wing" that stymies rational discussion. Calling James Hodgkinson "right-wing" despite his known political statements and affiliations indicating the opposite still doesn't get us to the "right-wing has committed the vast majority of political violence in America" even if you crown the pile of actual right-wing political violence with the attack on Scalise.

Get a room.

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[Grenartia]

Remember, America is only a Democracy when it suits the Right Wing.

...Obama was voted in (mostly) fairly?...Democratically?...I meannnn...

Only "mostly"?

Look, I'll be the first to admit, I very much disliked Obama back when he was first elected, but even back then, I had no qualms whatsoever with how he got into office (unlike Trump and W).

[The Empire of Pretantia]

...Is the electoral vote not part of a representative democracy?

It's generally considered democratic to give victory to the candidate that the people vote for.

The people voted for Trump.

[Fartsniffage]

It's generally considered democratic to give victory to the candidate that the people vote for.

The people voted for Trump.

Some of them did. Just not a majority of them.

[Grenartia]

It's generally considered democratic to give victory to the candidate that the people vote for.

The people voted for Trump.

The minority of people voted for Trump. The majority voted against. Hillary alone got 3 million more votes than him, and that's not taking into account the 3rd party candidates. The only reason he won, was because the Electoral College is yet another form of legalized election rigging.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The people voted for Trump.

Some of them did. Just not a majority of them.

A majority didn't vote for Hillary either.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The people voted for Trump.

The minority of people voted for Trump. The majority voted against. Hillary alone got 3 million more votes than him, and that's not taking into account the 3rd party candidates. The only reason he won, was because the Electoral College is yet another form of legalized election rigging.

So it was roughly half and half.

[Vassenor]

It's generally considered democratic to give victory to the candidate that the people vote for.

The people voted for Trump.

No, the people voted for Hillary. The States voted for Trump.

Unless we live in some magical world where 62>65.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

The people voted for Trump.

No, the people voted for Hillary. The States voted for Trump.

Unless we live in some magical world where 62>65.

The people voted for Trump through the states.

[Vassenor]

No, the people voted for Hillary. The States voted for Trump.

Unless we live in some magical world where 62>65.

The people voted for Trump through the states.

That doesn't make any sense though does it?

[Grenartia]

Some of them did. Just not a majority of them.

A majority didn't vote for Hillary either.

A majority of those who voted, voted for Hillary.

The minority of people voted for Trump. The majority voted against. Hillary alone got 3 million more votes than him, and that's not taking into account the 3rd party candidates. The only reason he won, was because the Electoral College is yet another form of legalized election rigging.

So it was roughly half and half.

Let me break it down with math.

Trump got 62 million votes (more or less). Clinton got 65 million votes (again, more or less).

62 + 65 = 127

62/127 = 0.48
65/127 = 0.51

3 percent may sound trivial, but in elections, it is not.

[Big Jim P]

A majority didn't vote for Hillary either.

A majority of those who voted, voted for Hillary.

So it was roughly half and half.

Let me break it down with math.

Trump got 62 million votes (more or less). Clinton got 65 million votes (again, more or less).

62 + 65 = 127

62/127 = 0.48
65/127 = 0.51

3 percent may sound trivial, but in elections, it is not.

Still clinging to this? It like the Red Sox kicking a field goal for three points and complaining that they still lost the World Series.

[Grenartia]

A majority of those who voted, voted for Hillary.



Let me break it down with math.

Trump got 62 million votes (more or less). Clinton got 65 million votes (again, more or less).

62 + 65 = 127

62/127 = 0.48
65/127 = 0.51

3 percent may sound trivial, but in elections, it is not.

Still clinging to this? It like the Red Sox kicking a field goal for three points and complaining that they still lost the World Series.

Well, we still have people mistakenly thinking Trump won the majority of people's votes, despite all evidence to the contrary. Your argument, and your metaphor, are invalid. You get nothing.

[Big Jim P]

Still clinging to this? It like the Red Sox kicking a field goal for three points and complaining that they still lost the World Series.

Well, we still have people mistakenly thinking Trump won the majority of people's votes, despite all evidence to the contrary. Your argument, and your metaphor, are invalid. You get nothing.

LOL. I get a country without hillary as president. You, however get to whine about it for a long, LONG time.

[Grenartia]

Well, we still have people mistakenly thinking Trump won the majority of people's votes, despite all evidence to the contrary. Your argument, and your metaphor, are invalid. You get nothing.

LOL. I get a country without hillary as president. You, however get to whine about it for a long, LONG time.

By this time next year, when the country's in the shitter, don't whine and cry when I tell you I told you so.

[Dylar]

LOL. I get a country without hillary as president. You, however get to whine about it for a long, LONG time.

By this time next year, when the country's in the shitter, don't whine and cry when I tell you I told you so.

And what if it isn't shittier next year? What if it's better for all American citizens? This pessimistic attitude is what got us into the shit this year...

[Grenartia]

By this time next year, when the country's in the shitter, don't whine and cry when I tell you I told you so.

And what if it isn't shittier next year? What if it's better for all American citizens? This pessimistic attitude is what got us into the shit this year...

The only way it would be better for all Americans, is if the entire administration got impeached one after another, along with at least half of both houses of Congress.

[Big Jim P]

LOL. I get a country without hillary as president. You, however get to whine about it for a long, LONG time.

By this time next year, when the country's in the shitter, don't whine and cry when I tell you I told you so.

What, we re-elected obama?

[Grenartia]

By this time next year, when the country's in the shitter, don't whine and cry when I tell you I told you so.

What, we re-elected obama?

That would actually make America Great again.

[Nulla Bellum]

No, the people voted for Hillary. The States voted for Trump.

Unless we live in some magical world where 62>65.

The people voted for Trump through the states.

The people (that bothered to vote) voted for how they wanted the Electoral College electors from their state to vote. Both candidates knew how many EC votes they needed. Only one candidate actively campaigned to win them.