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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:38 pm

The American Commonwealth wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Life comes at you fast

Oh SHUT UP!!! The guy got SHOT. Don't you think you can respect that and wait to politicize until he is out of the hospital?


Lots of people get shot in the US. Way more than one per day. Should people wait until they all get out of hospital before politics can be involved?

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Postby Zanera » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:38 pm

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Kramania wrote:Lol. Another communist declaring that anyone right of Stalin is right-wing. Good lord. The cancer.

Lol. More people not getting it.

Come on. Don't you want to join the ranks of those who get it but pretend they don't?


What if I don't get it?! :o

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:38 pm

The American Commonwealth wrote:
The Grene Knyght wrote:Life comes at you fast

Oh SHUT UP!!! The guy got SHOT. Don't you think you can respect that and wait to politicize until he is out of the hospital?

Anything involving guns is going to get politicized almost immediately. It's just one of those topics.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Kramania » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:39 pm

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Kramania wrote:Why are you whining about substance when you've said nothing substantive yourself?

Again, I'm not sure why I'm expected to respond to shit-post tier posts with substance. I need something to respond to, and the generic whining about me being left-wing do not qualify.

But you never post anything substance. You just make the usual shitpost-tier snide, condescending, arrogant remarks that are so excruciatingly typical of NS.

Kramania wrote:No. Your warped, skewed definitions of left-wing and right-wing got exposed.

Oh shit, Ifreann. Lefties exposed yet again.

See? This is what I mean. How disappointing.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:39 pm

Zanera wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Lol. More people not getting it.

Come on. Don't you want to join the ranks of those who get it but pretend they don't?


What if I don't get it?! :o


Then no biscuit for you.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:40 pm

Kramania wrote:But you never post anything substance. You just make the usual shitpost-tier snide, condescending, arrogant remarks that are so excruciatingly typical of NS.

I mean, if you believe that, then I would suggest you get to posting something of substance that I can reply to. Go ahead, help a brotha out and give me something pertaining to the thread worthwhile.
Kramania wrote:See? This is what I mean. How disappointing.

Oh no Ifreann, I've disappointed him. So much for the tolerant left.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby The American Commonwealth » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:41 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
The American Commonwealth wrote:Oh SHUT UP!!! The guy got SHOT. Don't you think you can respect that and wait to politicize until he is out of the hospital?

Anything involving guns is going to get politicized almost immediately. It's just one of those topics.

Which is the dumbest thing. People need to put themselves in the situation. If you were shot, would you want to be the example?
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:41 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The American Commonwealth wrote:Oh SHUT UP!!! The guy got SHOT. Don't you think you can respect that and wait to politicize until he is out of the hospital?


Lots of people get shot in the US. Way more than one per day. Should people wait until they all get out of hospital before politics can be involved?

And for the political party which advocates for guns, and turns a blind eye towards violent rhetoric, or even encourages it (the lynchings and burning of Obama in effigy, the "Second Amendement people" taking care of Hillary Clinton as suggested by President Donald Trump, mocking Barack Obama for crying when elementary schoolers are shot to death, etc.), it is simply too rich to see them complain.
Granted, the man is a human being deserving of respect, but when the Republican Party itself shows so little, the Republican Party should not expect respect in return.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:43 pm

The American Commonwealth wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Anything involving guns is going to get politicized almost immediately. It's just one of those topics.

Which is the dumbest thing. People need to put themselves in the situation. If you were shot, would you want to be the example?

Frankly, if I were shot, I'd want it to be politicized. Otherwise, I'd have essentially gotten shot for nothing.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Kramania » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:44 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Kramania wrote:But you never post anything substance. You just make the usual shitpost-tier snide, condescending, arrogant remarks that are so excruciatingly typical of NS.

I mean, if you believe that, then I would suggest you get to posting something of substance that I can reply to. Go ahead, help a brotha out and give me something pertaining to the thread worthwhile.

"Help a brotha out"? What is this? Straight Outta Compton? But fine.

*ahem*

This shooting was symptomatic of the increasingly violent and partisan nature of the radical left in this country.

There, run with it or agree. Doesn't matter much to me.
Kramania wrote:See? This is what I mean. How disappointing.

Oh no Ifreann, I've disappointed him. So much for the tolerant left.

I think he went to sleep.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:45 pm

Kramania wrote:This shooting was symptomatic of the increasingly violent and partisan nature of the radical left in this country.

Too rich. For the most far-right country in the West, governed by the most far-right party in the West, to start talking about the danger and violence of the "radical left", it is simply too ironic, life is too twisted.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:47 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kramania wrote:This shooting was symptomatic of the increasingly violent and partisan nature of the radical left in this country.

Too rich. For the most far-right country in the West, governed by the most far-right party in the West, to start talking about the danger and violence of the "radical left", it is simply too ironic, life is too twisted.


Well given the shooter was a leftist...
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:48 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:
I suspect your inability to respond to substance is merely a symptom of whatever is deluding you into believing you are the arbiter of political attribution or capable of educating anyone.

Show's over, piker. Hit the road.

So that's a no, you don't have anything of substance to reply to my post with. That's all you had to say.


Aw pookie, I was hoping you were going to challenge my small sampling of the list of leftists that have attacked / killed American elected figures so you can explain to us how Italian anarchists and self-proclaimed Soviet communists are really right-wing.

I made it easy for you. Like a boxing clown. Everyone takes turns knocking your argument down, and you can pop right back up and laugh about how you're full of air.
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Postby The American Commonwealth » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:48 pm

Olerand wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Lots of people get shot in the US. Way more than one per day. Should people wait until they all get out of hospital before politics can be involved?

And for the political party which advocates for guns, and turns a blind eye towards violent rhetoric, or even encourages it (the lynchings and burning of Obama in effigy, the "Second Amendement people" taking care of Hillary Clinton as suggested by President Donald Trump, mocking Barack Obama for crying when elementary schoolers are shot to death, etc.), it is simply too rich to see them complain.
Granted, the man is a human being deserving of respect, but when the Republican Party itself shows so little, the Republican Party should not expect respect in return.

Who tf are you talking about? Infowars? The two Republicans that talk like that? You talk like this is mainstream.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:49 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Olerand wrote:Too rich. For the most far-right country in the West, governed by the most far-right party in the West, to start talking about the danger and violence of the "radical left", it is simply too ironic, life is too twisted.


Well given the shooter was a leftist...

And therefore it is a stereotypical, textbook example of a pot calling a kettle black.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:49 pm

Kramania wrote:"Help a brotha out"? What is this? Straight Outta Compton? But fine.

*ahem*

This shooting was symptomatic of the increasingly violent and partisan nature of the radical left in this country.

Couple of things odd here. So now he's shifted to the "radical left" rather than just "the left"? Also, the "radical left" being partisan is pure gold considering the immense hatred for all parties in the United States among them. Finally, "increasingly violent"? L E L
Kramania wrote:I think he went to sleep.

He's probably just performing his daily séance in front of his Stalin shrine, hoping to contact his spirit and bathe in his glory.
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Postby Kramania » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:50 pm

Olerand wrote:governed by the most far-right party in the West

So the Republicans are more "far-right" then the various fascist/Neo-Nazi parties in the West? Really?

to start talking about the danger and violence of the "radical left", it is simply too ironic, life is too twisted.

Well, when you have Antifa scum roaming the streets beating the shit out of people and a partisan, planned political massacre attempt then, yes, it is worth it to talk about the danger and violence of the radical left.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:51 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:So that's a no, you don't have anything of substance to reply to my post with. That's all you had to say.


Aw pookie, I was hoping you were going to challenge my small sampling of the list of leftists that have attacked / killed American elected figures so you can explain to us how Italian anarchists and self-proclaimed Soviet communists are really right-wing.

Mavorpen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:It's the everyone who isn't to the left of me is right wing

Stalin is right of me and I consider him left-wing.

Reading is for leftists, it seems.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:51 pm

The American Commonwealth wrote:
Olerand wrote:And for the political party which advocates for guns, and turns a blind eye towards violent rhetoric, or even encourages it (the lynchings and burning of Obama in effigy, the "Second Amendement people" taking care of Hillary Clinton as suggested by President Donald Trump, mocking Barack Obama for crying when elementary schoolers are shot to death, etc.), it is simply too rich to see them complain.
Granted, the man is a human being deserving of respect, but when the Republican Party itself shows so little, the Republican Party should not expect respect in return.

Who tf are you talking about? Infowars? The two Republicans that talk like that? You talk like this is mainstream.

Is Donald not president? Did Republicans, including current Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, not mock Obama for crying as that was unpresidential and accuse him of politicizing Sandy Hook so that he can cover up his mistakes? Were effigies of Barack Obama not hung and burned in the South?

Honestly, the luxury of being able to distinguish between the far-right and the "mainstream right" in America today is... a quintessentially (disingenuous) "mainstream right" privilege.
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Postby Kramania » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:53 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Kramania wrote:"Help a brotha out"? What is this? Straight Outta Compton? But fine.

*ahem*

This shooting was symptomatic of the increasingly violent and partisan nature of the radical left in this country.

Couple of things odd here. So now he's shifted to the "radical left" rather than just "the left"? Also, the "radical left" being partisan is pure gold considering the immense hatred for all parties in the United States among them.

The gentleman who perpetrated this shooting was a Bernie Sanders partisan, yes. Also, who shifted? I said the radical left and nothing else.

Finally, "increasingly violent"? L E L

Okay, maybe not increasingly. They were already pretty violent to begin with.

Kramania wrote:I think he went to sleep.

He's probably just performing his daily séance in front of his Stalin shrine, hoping to contact his spirit and bathe in his glory.

You still haven't been able to grasp the fact that I never called him a Stalinist. But please, keep chipping away at that strawman. It really is all you're capable of.
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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:53 pm

Kramania wrote:
Olerand wrote:governed by the most far-right party in the West

1- So the Republicans are more "far-right" then the various fascist/Neo-Nazi parties in the West? Really?

to start talking about the danger and violence of the "radical left", it is simply too ironic, life is too twisted.

2- Well, when you have Antifa scum roaming the streets beating the shit out of people and a partisan, planned political massacre attempt then, yes, it is worth it to talk about the danger and violence of the radical left.

Are they more far-right than Jobbik? Golden Dawn? No. But are Jobbik and Golden Dawn "mainstream"? No. Are they anywhere near power (hence the governed)? Absolutely not.
Are the Republicans more far-right than the Front National, FPO, PVV, Lega Nord, and others? Absolutely. Are any of these parties anywhere near power (hence the governed)? Absolutely not.
So... Yes, they are.

A pot screeching at the top of its lungs that a kettle is black.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:55 pm

Kramania wrote:
Olerand wrote:governed by the most far-right party in the West

So the Republicans are more "far-right" then the various fascist/Neo-Nazi parties in the West? Really?

to start talking about the danger and violence of the "radical left", it is simply too ironic, life is too twisted.

Well, when you have Antifa scum roaming the streets beating the shit out of people and a partisan, planned political massacre attempt then, yes, it is worth it to talk about the danger and violence of the radical left.

The most right-wing governing party in the West, yes.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:57 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Kramania wrote:So the Republicans are more "far-right" then the various fascist/Neo-Nazi parties in the West? Really?


Well, when you have Antifa scum roaming the streets beating the shit out of people and a partisan, planned political massacre attempt then, yes, it is worth it to talk about the danger and violence of the radical left.

The most right-wing governing party in the West, yes.

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Postby Olerand » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:59 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geilinor wrote:The most right-wing governing party in the West, yes.

Ahh, political hatemongering, such a fine tradition.

Is there an even stronger expression denoting hypocrisy in the English language than a "pot calling a kettle black"? The American right-wing accusing the American left-wing, or whatever, of hatemongering simply shatters all previous records and measures of assessment of hypocrisy that humanity has ever devised.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:59 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Geilinor wrote:The most right-wing governing party in the West, yes.

Ahh, political hatemongering, such a fine tradition.

"Right-wing" is hatemongering? I didn't know it was a bad word.
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