US Representative Shot

[Nulla Bellum]

To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.

There should be some bipartisan compromise that should dissuade the true believers from taking up arms against a softball game. Perhaps the Democrats will accept higher taxes on themselves to provide tax cuts to Republicans. Everyone gets what they want.

Dafuq?[/quote]

English. The meaning of the word "tyranny" seems different from your understanding.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Can you list any? Because while they've done things I disagree with, I can't think of anything tyrannical.

Various attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.

That isn't really unique to the post-2010 GOP though. There's pretty always been a party that does that shit.

I'm curious what specifically about the post-2010 GOP is tyrannical.

[Genivaria]

If they are an amateur, it's about the same. Cept at close range, were in the knife becomes more dangerous.

Amateur doesn't mean mentally and physically disabled. You severly underestimate the competency of amateurs

The only expereince I've had is a bebee gun so that makes me an amateur I guess.
But I'd say having both hands on the handle, safety off, gun pointed at who you want to die, and squeezing the trigger, is all pretty straightforward.

You don't need to know how to disassemble and reassemble your weapon to pull the trigger.

An amateur with a knife is NOT as dangerous as an amateur with a gun.

[Ifreann]

Too many reasons to list.

Can you list any? Because while they've done things I disagree with, I can't think of anything tyrannical.

It's not like there's some universally agreed upon set of tyrannical actions, do any six and you will be set upon by the nearest militia.

[Genivaria]

Various attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.

That isn't really unique to the post-2010 GOP though. There's pretty always been a party that does that shit.

I'm curious what specifically about the post-2010 GOP is tyrannical.

Technically speaking working within the government and confines of the law to ruin the lives of millions of people isn't tyrannical at all, it just makes them an incredible piece of shit.
Funny how that works.

[Nulla Bellum]

Can you list any? Because while they've done things I disagree with, I can't think of anything tyrannical.

Various attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.

I see. Showing ID to vote is racism, but showing ID to buy a gun is not.

[Ifreann]

That isn't really unique to the post-2010 GOP though. There's pretty always been a party that does that shit.

I'm curious what specifically about the post-2010 GOP is tyrannical.

Technically speaking working within the government and confines of the law to ruin the lives of millions of people isn't tyrannical at all, it just makes them an incredible piece of shit.
Funny how that works.

According to what technicality?

Again, there aren't strict rules about what is and isn't tyranny. Some people think any government at all is tyranny. Some people think it's tyranny to be expected to make their bed in the morning.

[Imperializt Russia]

Various attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.

I see. Showing ID to vote is racism, but showing ID to buy a gun is not.

One could make that argument.

[Genivaria]

Technically speaking working within the government and confines of the law to ruin the lives of millions of people isn't tyrannical at all, it just makes them an incredible piece of shit.
Funny how that works.

According to what technicality?

Again, there aren't strict rules about what is and isn't tyranny. Some people think any government at all is tyranny. Some people think it's tyranny to be expected to make their bed in the morning.

Don't fucking tell me how to live my life.

[Ifreann]

According to what technicality?

Again, there aren't strict rules about what is and isn't tyranny. Some people think any government at all is tyranny. Some people think it's tyranny to be expected to make their bed in the morning.

Don't fucking tell me how to live my life.

Make your bed! I command you!

[Genivaria]

Don't fucking tell me how to live my life.

Make your bed! I command you!

I can't, I am currently laying in it.

[Neo Balka]

1. "This party that disagrees with me has been tyrannical since its shift somewhat rightward".


2. But im sure deep down you probably would snicker at the thought of him dying of his wounds.

1. Of course, I wouldn't expect a rabid alt-rightist to understand.

2. G8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8.

How, exactly?

Too many reasons to list.

There should be some bipartisan compromise that should dissuade the true believers from taking up arms against a softball game. Perhaps the Democrats will accept higher taxes on themselves to provide tax cuts to Republicans. Everyone gets what they want.

Dafuq?

Me. Alt right.

I keep seeing you call me that yet i see no proof.

[Vassenor]

Various attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.

I see. Showing ID to vote is racism, but showing ID to buy a gun is not.

When voter ID schemes tend to be set up in ways that disenfranchise ethnic minorities...

[The Grim Reaper]

I see. Showing ID to vote is racism, but showing ID to buy a gun is not.

One could make that argument.

In general, it's not expected that you need to pay to vote. You do, however, need to pay to buy a gun.

Requiring ID adds a price signal to voting (alongside not allowing people leave with pay and similar such things), whereas there is already a cost associated with guns. The racism is the fact that lower-income voters are less likely to be able to hop the price signal, and a disproportionate amout of them are black - the allegation is that it is used as a catch-all in states that have large black populations. The strike down of North Carolina's laws is because they did so explicitly - http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/ ... ter-id-law

The appeals court noted that the North Carolina Legislature "requested data on the use, by race, of a number of voting practices" — then, data in hand, "enacted legislation that restricted voting and registration in five different ways, all of which disproportionately affected African Americans."

The changes to the voting process "target African Americans with almost surgical precision," the circuit court wrote, and "impose cures for problems that did not exist."

If one is willing to argue that the free market itself and income disparity is racist, then sure, perhaps the process of /selling guns/ is as racist as tacking on voter ID. That'd be a stretch for most people, I suspect.

I'm interested to see how Nulla Bellum ties this back into the topic of the thread.

[Genivaria]

I see. Showing ID to vote is racism, but showing ID to buy a gun is not.

When voter ID schemes tend to be set up in ways that disenfranchise ethnic minorities...

Or the poor and elderly.

[Napkiraly]

Tbf Antifa does deserve the iron boot of the state.

That's your answer to everything.

Hardly.

[Jamzmania]

I see. Showing ID to vote is racism, but showing ID to buy a gun is not.

When voter ID schemes tend to be set up in ways that disenfranchise ethnic minorities...

Because everyone knows black people can't be responsible! *scoff*

It's called the racism of low expectations.

[Vassenor]

When voter ID schemes tend to be set up in ways that disenfranchise ethnic minorities...

Because everyone knows black people can't be responsible! *scoff*

It's called the racism of low expectations.

So how are voter ID schemes not disenfranchising in their implementation?

[Jamzmania]

Because everyone knows black people can't be responsible! *scoff*

It's called the racism of low expectations.

So how are voter ID schemes not disenfranchising in their implementation?

Because anyone can get an ID?

[Vassenor]

So how are voter ID schemes not disenfranchising in their implementation?

Because anyone can get an ID?

So you see no problem with having to pay to exercise a basic human right?

[Genivaria]

So how are voter ID schemes not disenfranchising in their implementation?

Because anyone can get an ID?

No actually not everyone can get an ID.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

So you see no problem with having to pay to exercise a basic human right?

Voting is a human right? When did that happen? I'm honestly confused.

[Vassenor]

So you see no problem with having to pay to exercise a basic human right?

Voting is a human right? When did that happen? I'm honestly confused.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/ ... ns/eng.pdf

Article 21
1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

[Jamzmania]

Because anyone can get an ID?

So you see no problem with having to pay to exercise a basic human right?

Voting is not a basic human right. It's a right for eligible citizens, and only eligible citizens. In order to ensure that only eligible citizens vote, a reasonable standard of presenting photo ID (or supporting documents if needed) is completely acceptable. There are reasonable costs associated with things like buying guns or getting a gun license, as well.

[FelrikTheDeleted]

Voting is a human right? When did that happen? I'm honestly confused.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/UDHR/Documents/ ... ns/eng.pdf

Article 21
1. Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
2. Everyone has the right to equal access to public service in his country.
3. The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

I stand corrected.