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Postby Thama » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:38 pm

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If he didn't have access to guns he wouldn't have shot up the field, buddy ;3


Yes all guns have this aura that instantly causes someone to become a mass shooter.

You poor ignorant sod.
How can a whackjob shoot someone if he doesn't have a gun?

I'm not some idiot who wants to take guns away from everyone, I love guns, but that doesn't mean I don't support taking them away from morons like this shooter. Background checks, mental health checks, gun licenses - they greatly reduce gun crime. Look at basically all of Europe bud.
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Postby Luminesa » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:40 pm

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Luminesa wrote:Do you want left-wing violence in general, or so you want left-wing violence after Trump was nominated? Make up your mind.


Joan was making a point about calls for violence from the Left Wing in response to Trump. And attempted to demonstrate said calls to violence with a news article from over a year before he was even nominated.

Well, if you want something after Trump has taken office, there's the multiple "Battles of Berkeley" that have taken place between AntiFa and others. AntiFa being a far-left group.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also it has been fun watching the "2A protects us from government tyranny" crowd doing a 180 as soon as someone actually shot a politician.

...So you're fine with the fact that a politician got shot? Seriously, multiple people have questioned you about this, what is this supposed to mean?


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Postby Luminesa » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:41 pm

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Luminesa wrote:...So you're fine with the fact that a politician got shot? Seriously, multiple people have questioned you about this, what is this supposed to mean?


Please don't shove words in my mouth.

Well, then, explain what you wrote. I'm not shoving the words, I'm asking if this is correct. Explaining the post above would be nice of you.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:42 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Please don't shove words in my mouth.

Well, then, explain what you wrote. I'm not shoving the words, I'm asking if this is correct. Explaining the post above would be nice of you.


At no point did I call this shooting a good thing, or imply such. I just found the hypocrisy in the reactions of some people to be amusing.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:43 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Joan was making a point about calls for violence from the Left Wing in response to Trump. And attempted to demonstrate said calls to violence with a news article from over a year before he was even nominated.

Well, if you want something after Trump has taken office, there's the multiple "Battles of Berkeley" that have taken place between AntiFa and others. AntiFa being a far-left group.

Those have been counter-protests against far-right protesters. The first was against a crowd that turned out to support a Milo Yiannopolous event (don't lie to me and claim that he's somehow not far-right), the second was against a "freeze peach" crowd that turned up seemingly to protest that there had been a protest some weeks prior.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:43 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Well, then, explain what you wrote. I'm not shoving the words, I'm asking if this is correct. Explaining the post above would be nice of you.


At no point did I call this shooting a good thing, or imply such. I just found the hypocrisy in the reactions of some people to be amusing.


There isn't any hypocrisy, truthfully it's more telling about you than the people who are apparently being hypocrites.
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:52 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Please don't shove words in my mouth.

Well, then, explain what you wrote. I'm not shoving the words, I'm asking if this is correct. Explaining the post above would be nice of you.


Since there has been no "180" on the part of 2A supporters, we must conclude the fun to be had is either hallucinogenic (seeing "180s" that aren't there), or some sick sense of schadenfreude deriving pleasure from 2A supporters being shot.

I'm sure there's an uncanny weasel mating call third option.
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Postby Neo Balka » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:55 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also it has been fun watching the "2A protects us from government tyranny" crowd doing a 180 as soon as someone actually shot a politician.


Good god that's one of the dumbest things you could have posted.

Yes. The man practicing baseball for a charity event was being tyrannical and deserved to be shot.


Well dont you know? He was probably funded by Russia/white supremacists MRAs/the alt right/hitler.

Therefore the fucktard that shot him was acting in self defense.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
in this day and age it's both.
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Postby Neo Balka » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:57 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Luminesa wrote:Well, if you want something after Trump has taken office, there's the multiple "Battles of Berkeley" that have taken place between AntiFa and others. AntiFa being a far-left group.

Those have been counter-protests against far-right protesters. The first was against a crowd that turned out to support a Milo Yiannopolous event (don't lie to me and claim that he's somehow not far-right), the second was against a "freeze peach" crowd that turned up seemingly to protest that there had been a protest some weeks prior.


Ah yes, the bike locks were for peaceful purposes. (or a more braindead explanation) they acted in self defense.
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Postby Zanera » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:05 pm

Vassenor wrote:Also it has been fun watching the "2A protects us from government tyranny" crowd doing a 180 as soon as someone actually shot a politician.


I didn't know those Congressmen were tyrants.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:11 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also it has been fun watching the "2A protects us from government tyranny" crowd doing a 180 as soon as someone actually shot a politician.


Good god that's one of the dumbest things you could have posted.

Yes. The man practicing baseball for a charity event was being tyrannical and deserved to be shot.


To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.
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Postby Neo Balka » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:14 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Good god that's one of the dumbest things you could have posted.

Yes. The man practicing baseball for a charity event was being tyrannical and deserved to be shot.


To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.


"This party that disagrees with me has been tyrannical since its shift somewhat rightward".
not that I agree he deserved to be shot


But im sure deep down you probably would snicker at the thought of him dying of his wounds.
The mere fact that i pissed someone off either means i stood for something or i said something offensive.
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Postby Neo Balka » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:15 pm

Zanera wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Also it has been fun watching the "2A protects us from government tyranny" crowd doing a 180 as soon as someone actually shot a politician.


I didn't know those Congressmen were tyrants.


"elected officials are the real tyrants, forget the middle east, Latin America, its America that has the problem with democracy!"
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:18 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Good god that's one of the dumbest things you could have posted.

Yes. The man practicing baseball for a charity event was being tyrannical and deserved to be shot.


To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.


How, exactly?
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:19 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Good god that's one of the dumbest things you could have posted.

Yes. The man practicing baseball for a charity event was being tyrannical and deserved to be shot.


To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.


There should be some bipartisan compromise that should dissuade the true believers from taking up arms against a softball game. Perhaps the Democrats will accept higher taxes on themselves to provide tax cuts to Republicans. Everyone gets what they want.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:22 pm

Nulla Bellum wrote:There should be some bipartisan compromise that should dissuade the true believers from taking up arms against a softball game. Perhaps the Democrats will accept higher taxes on themselves to provide tax cuts to Republicans. Everyone gets what they want.

Ah, the welfare leech in action, wanting other people to foot the bill for their lifestyle. =^)
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Postby Nulla Bellum » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:25 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Nulla Bellum wrote:There should be some bipartisan compromise that should dissuade the true believers from taking up arms against a softball game. Perhaps the Democrats will accept higher taxes on themselves to provide tax cuts to Republicans. Everyone gets what they want.

Ah, the welfare leech in action, wanting other people to foot the bill for their lifestyle. =^)


Nah. Just pay for the health insurance you want me to have. :p
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Postby Telconi » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:25 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Good god that's one of the dumbest things you could have posted.

Yes. The man practicing baseball for a charity event was being tyrannical and deserved to be shot.


To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.



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Postby Grenartia » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:29 pm

Neo Balka wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.


1. "This party that disagrees with me has been tyrannical since its shift somewhat rightward".
not that I agree he deserved to be shot


2. But im sure deep down you probably would snicker at the thought of him dying of his wounds.


1. Of course, I wouldn't expect a rabid alt-rightist to understand.

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.


How, exactly?


Too many reasons to list.

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Grenartia wrote:
To be entirely fair, 90% of the GOP since at least 2010 has been tyrannical, not that I agree he deserved to be shot.


There should be some bipartisan compromise that should dissuade the true believers from taking up arms against a softball game. Perhaps the Democrats will accept higher taxes on themselves to provide tax cuts to Republicans. Everyone gets what they want.


Dafuq?
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Postby Osnil Returns » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:29 pm

Thama wrote:
Randsbeik wrote:
Yes all guns have this aura that instantly causes someone to become a mass shooter.

You poor ignorant sod.
How can a whackjob shoot someone if he doesn't have a gun?

I'm not some idiot who wants to take guns away from everyone, I love guns, but that doesn't mean I don't support taking them away from morons like this shooter. Background checks, mental health checks, gun licenses - they greatly reduce gun crime. Look at basically all of Europe bud.

And they've got problems harnessing the refugees who are doing whatever they want. If they tried the stuff they get away with in Europe in Texas, their body wouldn't even be recognizable due to all the bullet holes.
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Postby Randsbeik » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:31 pm

Thama wrote:
Randsbeik wrote:
Yes all guns have this aura that instantly causes someone to become a mass shooter.

You poor ignorant sod.
How can a whackjob shoot someone if he doesn't have a gun?

I'm not some idiot who wants to take guns away from everyone, I love guns, but that doesn't mean I don't support taking them away from morons like this shooter. Background checks, mental health checks, gun licenses - they greatly reduce gun crime. Look at basically all of Europe bud.


To start, being condescending doesn't win you any prizes.

To actually address your point, you can't really legislate crazy. It really is something of a cliche argument, but it's all about the person behind the gun, and chances are, if they're motivated enough to plot a murder, they're willing to put up with the red tape of black market dealings.

As for European gun crime statistics, most European countries are culturally homogeneous, or share a culture that condemns violence against the innocent. To say that European gun crime statistics are in aggregate lower than those of America pretty much ignores the fact that a.) Most European countries have the population of one or two US states, and b.) America has many more places full of people that don't really mind, or even advocate violence (Detroit, parts of NY, etc.). I doubt giving a gun to a German guy is going to yield the same result as giving one to a Harlem gang wannabe. Europe doesn't really seem to have the same sort of cultural schizophrenia when it comes to aggression.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:33 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
How, exactly?


Too many reasons to list.


Can you list any? Because while they've done things I disagree with, I can't think of anything tyrannical.
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Postby Zanera » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:34 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
How, exactly?


Too many reasons to list.


It'd be fair to list at least a few reasons why you think most post-2010 GOP are tyrants since so many people are inquiring as to your thought process.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:36 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Can you list any? Because while they've done things I disagree with, I can't think of anything tyrannical.

Various attempts to disenfranchise minority voters.
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