US Representative Shot

[Grenartia]

Hopefully this shooting would not provoke any immediate consequence as a lot of things are going on in America, many more things would not help.

"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!" - Charles Manson on propaganda of the deed. Or was that Marvin Martin? I get my leftists confused

Honestly, considering the whole idea of Helter Skelter was to start an apocalyptic race war, I wouldn't really call Manson a leftist. That's not a thing leftists want to achieve, generally speaking.

[Neo Balka]

"Where's the kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!" - Charles Manson on propaganda of the deed. Or was that Marvin Martin? I get my leftists confused

Honestly, considering the whole idea of Helter Skelter was to start an apocalyptic race war, I wouldn't really call Manson a leftist. That's not a thing leftists want to achieve, generally speaking.

Switch race with class and i'd say it was on the money.

[Grenartia]

Honestly, considering the whole idea of Helter Skelter was to start an apocalyptic race war, I wouldn't really call Manson a leftist. That's not a thing leftists want to achieve, generally speaking.

Switch race with class and i'd say it was on the money.

But then it wouldn't have anything to do with Manson's plan.

[Catochristoferson]

A lot of right wing people defend their gun rights by saying "we need to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government". But when it actually happens, they complain about "terrorism", especially when the shooter is black or left wing.

I don't get this contradiction.

[Grenartia]

A lot of right wing people defend their gun rights by saying "we need to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government". But when it actually happens, they complain about "terrorism", especially when the shooter is black or left wing.

I don't get this contradiction.

Only right-wingers deserve freedom from political oppression, obviously.

[Neo Balka]

A lot of right wing people defend their gun rights by saying "we need to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government". But when it actually happens, they complain about "terrorism", especially when the shooter is black or left wing.

I don't get this contradiction.

Arre you actually fucking serious or are you just shitposting?

[Neo Balka]

A lot of right wing people defend their gun rights by saying "we need to protect ourselves from the tyrannical government". But when it actually happens, they complain about "terrorism", especially when the shooter is black or left wing.

I don't get this contradiction.

Only right-wingers deserve freedom from political oppression, obviously.

Quick question, how was a guy playing baseball oppressing people?

[Grenartia]

Only right-wingers deserve freedom from political oppression, obviously.

Quick question, how was a guy playing baseball oppressing people?

Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

[Neo Balka]

Quick question, how was a guy playing baseball oppressing people?

Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

[Genivaria]

This statement is always true.

Sigh.

Leftist debate at its finest.

Thank you for proving my point.

[Grenartia]

Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

What, did his bills touch you where it felt uncomfortable?

He supported SOPA. He voted against the Violence Against Women Act. He opposes Obamacare, and supported the abortion that's the GOP "replacement". He has compared himself favorably with David Duke, known white supremacist and Klan leader. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Luminesa]

Quick question, how was a guy playing baseball oppressing people?

Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

...He's...a mainline Republican Congressman. I mean, I suppose if you dislike Republicans, that's one thing, but it's not like he's ever done anything out-of-the-ordinary for a Republican. He's not Trump, running around saying nasty stuff about women and Mexicans. He's not Cruz. He's...like...your typical Republican politician. I truly hope you're not saying that he deserved to be shot simply for being a Republican politician, because that raises some rather disturbing questions.

[Luminesa]

What, did his bills touch you where it felt uncomfortable?

He supported SOPA. He voted against the Violence Against Women Act. He opposes Obamacare, and supported the abortion that's the GOP "replacement". He has compared himself favorably with David Duke, known white supremacist and Klan leader. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

...Where did he compare himself with David Duke? I've never seen that.

(Lord, just the mention of David Duke makes my spine crawl.)

Edit: I found this on Esquire:

"In 2002, Scalise spoke to the European Unity and Rights Organization, a group led by Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the KKK. "He told me he was like David Duke without the baggage," Stephanie Grace, a long-time political reporter, told The New York Times in 2014 of her first meeting with Scalise. "I think he meant he supported the same policy ideas as David Duke, but he wasn't David Duke, that he didn't have the same feelings about certain people as David Duke did." While Scalise admitted to the speech, he later claimed he didn't know their cause was white supremacy."

I would presume (and I would hope this is true), that he and Duke happened to agree on some issues, such as immigration? I mean, as horrible as Duke is, they are in the same party and probably have some things in common. You can utterly disagree with someone's way of thinking and still agree with them on some things. "Without the baggage" anyway would probably mean he's a Republican without...you know...the stuff that makes Duke such a detestable stain on Louisiana politics.

[Neo Balka]

What, did his bills touch you where it felt uncomfortable?

He supported SOPA. He voted against the Violence Against Women Act. He opposes Obamacare, and supported the abortion that's the GOP "replacement". He has compared himself favorably with David Duke, known white supremacist and Klan leader. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Tragic.

[Catochristoferson]

Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

He's literally a corporate stooge that supported internet censorship laws, and he really likes white supremacists.

[Neo Balka]

He supported SOPA. He voted against the Violence Against Women Act. He opposes Obamacare, and supported the abortion that's the GOP "replacement". He has compared himself favorably with David Duke, known white supremacist and Klan leader. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

...Where did he compare himself with David Duke? I've never seen that.

(Lord, just the mention of David Duke makes my spine crawl.)

I'd check in on that, grens might just be pining for bloodshed for any reason that suits them.

[Neo Balka]

what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

He's literally a corporate stooge that supported internet censorship laws, and he really likes white supremacists.

Oh god, lets line up half of washington and the EU parliament on the wall and put them out of our misery then.

No?

Oh wait, thats a retarded idea.

he really likes white supremacists

Bet some black congresspeople had a nudge or two from Black supremacists but my god have mercy if anyone mentions them!

[Ifreann]

Hopefully this shooting would not provoke any immediate consequence as a lot of things are going on in America, many more things would not help.

Well it happened 4 days ago, I think if there were going to be any immediate consequences then they would have happened, you know, 3-4 days ago.

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Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

Where are the rules setting out exactly when a government is tyrannical enough to warrant members of it getting shot?

[Luminesa]

what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

He's literally a corporate stooge that supported internet censorship laws, and he really likes white supremacists.

I would have to agree with Balk at least on the "corporate stooge" statement, most politicians are very much embroiled with businesses and rely on them for support. Trump simply happens to be a very brazen example, but there are many others. Hillary, for example, with Wall Street, most Louisiana politicians with the pipeline and anything involving oil, etc.

[Grenartia]

Its the man's record that constitutes the oppression, not playing baseball. Was it that hard to figure out? Did that actually have to be spelled out for you?

...He's...a mainline Republican Congressman. I mean, I suppose if you dislike Republicans, that's one thing, but it's not like he's ever done anything out-of-the-ordinary for a Republican. He's not Trump, running around saying nasty stuff about women and Mexicans. He's not Cruz. He's...like...your typical Republican politician. I truly hope you're not saying that he deserved to be shot simply for being a Republican politician, because that raises some rather disturbing questions.

I'm not saying he deserved to be shot, but an argument can certainly be made that he was at least complicit in acts of oppression as a lawmaker.

And yes, I realize he's a mainstream Republican. He is, as far as I can tell, an example of everything wrong with the Republican party today.

He supported SOPA. He voted against the Violence Against Women Act. He opposes Obamacare, and supported the abortion that's the GOP "replacement". He has compared himself favorably with David Duke, known white supremacist and Klan leader. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

...Where did he compare himself with David Duke? I've never seen that.

(Lord, just the mention of David Duke makes my spine crawl.)

Google search reveals the quote "I'm David Duke without the baggage". You'll notice the mix of left wing and right wing outlets covering it.

...Where did he compare himself with David Duke? I've never seen that.

(Lord, just the mention of David Duke makes my spine crawl.)

I'd check in on that, grens might just be pining for bloodshed for any reason that suits them.

I'm shocked you didn't say "(((gren)))".

[Neo Balka]

Hopefully this shooting would not provoke any immediate consequence as a lot of things are going on in America, many more things would not help.

Well it happened 4 days ago, I think if there were going to be any immediate consequences then they would have happened, you know, 3-4 days ago.

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what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

Where are the rules setting out exactly when a government is tyrannical enough to warrant members of it getting shot?

Dunno, maybe the tard that shot the poor man shouldve called ANTIFA to figure it out.

[Luminesa]

Hopefully this shooting would not provoke any immediate consequence as a lot of things are going on in America, many more things would not help.

Well it happened 4 days ago, I think if there were going to be any immediate consequences then they would have happened, you know, 3-4 days ago.

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what could he have POSSIBLY have done to warrant getting his ass shot by some fucktard or some other societal reject?

Where are the rules setting out exactly when a government is tyrannical enough to warrant members of it getting shot?

I would point to John Locke and would mention his idea of the "social contract", but that social contract doesn't involve simply shooting someone who happens to be Republican. And furthermore, what is your point in asking this question? Are you honestly fine with just shooting whoever you disagree with?

[Neo Balka]

I'm shocked you didn't say "(((gren)))".

Couldve but you're not worth getting banned over for something so damn minor.

[Neo Balka]

Well it happened 4 days ago, I think if there were going to be any immediate consequences then they would have happened, you know, 3-4 days ago.

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Where are the rules setting out exactly when a government is tyrannical enough to warrant members of it getting shot?

I would point to John Locke and would mention his idea of the "social contract", but that social contract doesn't involve simply shooting someone who happens to be Republican. And furthermore, what is your point in asking this question? Are you honestly fine with just shooting whoever you disagree with?

I duuno.....irish...IRA..

[Grenartia]

Couldve but you're not worth getting banned over for something so damn minor.

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