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Do you hate/dislike Muslims or Islam

Yes
57
28%
No
141
69%
I Am Muslim
6
3%
 
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Sailsia
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Why Do They Hate Islam?

Postby Sailsia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:58 pm

I would like to know, where are there such a vast number of people who hate (or strongly dislike) people of Islam. I am a Lutheran Christian, but I have no problem with Muslims, my aunt married an immigrant from Iraq in '98. and hes a Muslim, and hes a perfectly nice guy. I mean, sure, Islam is very different then what the West is used to, but then again, at one point paper was too...

To re-state the question:
why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?
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Postby Risottia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:02 pm

Sailsia wrote:why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?


Meh, as for me it's exactly the same thing with Christianity and Christians. (Or any other religion and the followers thereof).
The ideas of "Christianity" and "Islam" never damaged me - as they aren't physical beings.

On the other hand, many Christians and many Muslims are RL bigoted trolls. Quite obnoxious if you ask me.
If that's "hating Islam" or "hating Christianity", well, too bad for them.
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Postby Yethtu » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:03 pm

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:03 pm

Risottia wrote:
Sailsia wrote:why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?


Meh, as for me it's exactly the same thing with Christianity and Christians. (Or any other religion and the followers thereof).
The ideas of "Christianity" and "Islam" never damaged me - as they aren't physical beings.

On the other hand, many Christians and many Muslims are RL bigoted trolls. Quite obnoxious if you ask me.
If that's "hating Islam" or "hating Christianity", well, too bad for them.

basically.

It has a lot to do with the fact that people exploit it for geopolitical ends, generally involving heinous crimes, and the like.
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Postby Maurepas » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:04 pm

Risottia wrote:
Sailsia wrote:why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?


Meh, as for me it's exactly the same thing with Christianity and Christians. (Or any other religion and the followers thereof).
The ideas of "Christianity" and "Islam" never damaged me - as they aren't physical beings.

On the other hand, many Christians and many Muslims are RL bigoted trolls. Quite obnoxious if you ask me.
If that's "hating Islam" or "hating Christianity", well, too bad for them.

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Postby Sailsia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:05 pm

Risottia wrote:
Sailsia wrote:why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?


Meh, as for me it's exactly the same thing with Christianity and Christians. (Or any other religion and the followers thereof).
The ideas of "Christianity" and "Islam" never damaged me - as they aren't physical beings.

On the other hand, many Christians and many Muslims are RL bigoted trolls. Quite obnoxious if you ask me.
If that's "hating Islam" or "hating Christianity", well, too bad for them.

Well, we aren't all a bunch of bigots...I guess its just that there is always a guy who tries to find a group of people thats socially acceptable to pick on (ex. a fat kid at school is a big sign saying OPEN SEASON, regardless of religion, its culture)
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Postby Rolling squid » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:06 pm

Uncanny valley effect. To a Christian, they're just enough like one of them, but just enough foreign to land squarely in the "fricking creepy" category. This has been amplified in recent years by the war on terror.
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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:07 pm

I don't hate all Muslims. I do have a problem with Islam.
and Christianity and Judaism and Buddhism and Paganism and Hinduism and Scientology and the Raelian movement and all those other religions too
A little homework for you!

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Postby Kyphos » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:07 pm

I must say I've met two Muslims which I've been able to talk to or haven't had the "evil eye" from when i walk past them.
In my 20 years all I've seen is lack of manners, lack of respect for the language i speak and general lack of respect for anything but themselves (they just don't help themselves being liked)

I can bring Muslim people money by going into a shop and buying from them then i can walk out feeling hated. (but then again all of the above can be accounted for anyone... but that's not the topic)


But then again I'm sure that's only the Muslims where i am and they're not like that where they come from.

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:08 pm

Rolling squid wrote:Uncanny valley effect. To a Christian, they're just enough like one of them, but just enough foreign to land squarely in the "fricking creepy" category. This has been amplified in recent years by the war on terror.


You just used a trope, didn't you?
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Ralkovia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:09 pm

Sailsia wrote:To re-state the question:
why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?

BCUZ THEY K33P B10W1NG R SH1T UP
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Postby Grandais » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:09 pm

I like Islam. It's the only Abrahamic religion I can tolerate.
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Postby Rolling squid » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:09 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Rolling squid wrote:Uncanny valley effect. To a Christian, they're just enough like one of them, but just enough foreign to land squarely in the "fricking creepy" category. This has been amplified in recent years by the war on terror.


You just used a trope, didn't you?


maybe.... :blink:
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Postby Sailsia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:09 pm

Kyphos wrote:I must say I've met two Muslims which I've been able to talk to or haven't had the "evil eye" from when i walk past them.
In my 20 years all I've seen is lack of manners, lack of respect for the language i speak and general lack of respect for anything but themselves (they just don't help themselves being liked)

I can bring Muslim people money by going into a shop and buying from them then i can walk out feeling hated. (but then again all of the above can be accounted for anyone... but that's not the topic)


But then again I'm sure that's only the Muslims where i am and they're not like that where they come from.

Well, thats not what its like in the states. Think of how long Britain and the Muslim World have had bad relations though.
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Postby Sailsia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:11 pm

Ralkovia wrote:
Sailsia wrote:To re-state the question:
why do so many people dislike/hate Muslims?

BCUZ THEY K33P B10W1NG R SH1T UP

Who is "they" exactly?
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:11 pm

I'd liek to add that I work with quite a few guys form Pakistan (muslims) so I can't really hate them all, but the one guy does say some strange things to a western perspective. For example he beats his wife.

EDIT: I admire their beards though.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:11 pm

Because everyone associates Islam with terrorism and violence.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Kyphos » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:11 pm

Bad relations? I suppose but if it was that bad i wouldn't had been 1/3 white people in my class in grade 6.

They wouldn't even be here.
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Postby Sailsia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:12 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:I'd liek to add that I work with quite a few guys form Pakistan (muslims) so I can't really hate them all, but the one guy does say some strange things to a western perspective. For example he beats his wife.

cough*report him*cough cough
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Postby ThinkPads » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:13 pm

Your topic and the content of your post are conflated. While the topic pertains to Islam, the post confuses hatred of Islam, an ideology, with hatred of Muslims, who may or may not support Islam, or even be aware of what it truly is. Until the two are separated, no rational response can be given to your thread.

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Postby Trans Mississippi » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:13 pm

I like Islam

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Postby Sailsia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:13 pm

Kyphos wrote:Bad relations? I suppose but if it was that bad i wouldn't had been 1/3 white people in my class in grade 6.

They wouldn't even be here.

Thats not true exactly. Plenty of French people hate Americans, yet they still vacation in America and buy American things.
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Postby Kyphos » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:15 pm

Sailsia wrote:
Kyphos wrote:Bad relations? I suppose but if it was that bad i wouldn't had been 1/3 white people in my class in grade 6.

They wouldn't even be here.

Thats not true exactly. Plenty of French people hate Americans, yet they still vacation in America and buy American things.



You can't compare Muslims to the French, they eat snails.

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Postby Slytheronia » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:16 pm

The same reason they hate Christians. Because a select few of them made bad choises, therefore, they hate them all.
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Postby Oppresso Liber » Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:17 pm

Most people do not hate Islam. People only hate Islamic fascism, or the perversion of their religion.

Jihadism, Wahhabism, etc. The fucking terrorists. The Islamic terrorists suck, not Islam.

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