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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:15 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj28qAS8MWU

So these students are lashing out at staff over a perfectly reasonable objection to telling whites to leave campus for the day, and even mocked one staffer who claimed (albeit unverifiably) to be claustrophobic, after demanding they be exempt from homework for student activism purposes, no less.

I think an order needs to come from on high that unless these students are suspended for the rest of the semester, every tax dollar ever given to this college has to be repaid immediately; and if it doesn't have the money, to be shut down. If these staffers want to put up with this crap, that's their business, but this college has no right to use everyone else's tax dollars to train millenials to act like a bunch of god damn brats.
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Postby Republic Of Varra » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:18 pm

Evergreen college really does need their funding to be cut. If they can't control their students, and bend over to them running amok, they don't deserve to be operating.
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Postby The Widening Gyre » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:49 pm

LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj28qAS8MWU

So these students are lashing out at staff over a perfectly reasonable objection to telling whites to leave campus for the day,


Time wrote:The incidents followed protests over race on campus last month, when student protesters confronted and called for the removal of a professor who objected to a plan to ask white people to consider leaving campus for a day of discussions about race. The plan for the program reversed the school's longstanding tradition of hosting an optional "Day of Absence and Day of Presence" during which students and faculty of color have left campus for a day of community discussion.

This year, the program included an optional anti-bias training for white students off campus and an optional educational program for students of color on campus. In response to backlash, Evergreen State has emphasized that its "Day of Absence" programs have always optional and said no white students or faculty members have ever been asked to leave campus.


There is a difference between asking people to consider leaving for the day and telling them to leave. You're either being dishonest or careless with your language - I'll leave it up to you to decide which.

Moreover the prof's objection seems pretty bizarre to me - the old formulation 'asked' students to leave to take part in the events too, but now that the racial categories have been reversed its now a problem?
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Postby Nocturnalis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:54 pm

University students acting like absolute pieces of shit? Can't say I'm surprised, really. And I say this as a university student myself.

What weird times we live in where someone calling for people to be judged by skills and character is considered a racist.
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Postby New Grestin » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:00 pm

It's unfortunate that an incident like this spiraled out of control.

Obviously we should be better than these students and institute collective punishment against everyone by defunding the college and cutting students and teachers adrift because an angry row occurred. That's the reasonable solution to the issue.

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Postby The Novakian Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:08 pm

New Grestin wrote:It's unfortunate that an incident like this spiraled out of control.

Obviously we should be better than these students and institute collective punishment against everyone by defunding the college and cutting students and teachers adrift because an angry row occurred. That's the reasonable solution to the issue.


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Seriously though, this is prety fucking bad. I'm not sure how, but something needs to be done.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:13 pm

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Postby New Grestin » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:17 pm

The Novakian Empire wrote:Seriously though, this is prety fucking bad. I'm not sure how, but something needs to be done.


Deal with the agitators, send an ultimatum to the Administration that this kind of behavior won't be tolerated, end the practice that caused the issue in the first place.

Focus more on actual education and less on well-meaning, but misguided ideals of creating discussions that could be better held in classrooms, rather than as general school practice.

Don't give college students, a group well know for their lack of inhibition, a reason to start a bloody riot in the first place.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:22 pm

Let them riot, let them burn it all down.

Let them do it, so all the World sees what they are.

Give a reason to deploy the National Guard.

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Postby The Novakian Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:26 pm

Nakena wrote:Let them riot, let them burn it all down.

Let them do it, so all the World sees what they are.

Give a reason to deploy the National Guard.

Jesus christ, nak.
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Postby Minoa » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:31 pm

Sources: http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/loca ... 67469.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/opin ... .html?_r=0

It is clear that tensions are high on both sides, but I am honestly struggling to get the gist of the whole saga. If only there was a simple explainer.
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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:33 pm

The Widening Gyre wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj28qAS8MWU

So these students are lashing out at staff over a perfectly reasonable objection to telling whites to leave campus for the day,


Time wrote:The incidents followed protests over race on campus last month, when student protesters confronted and called for the removal of a professor who objected to a plan to ask white people to consider leaving campus for a day of discussions about race. The plan for the program reversed the school's longstanding tradition of hosting an optional "Day of Absence and Day of Presence" during which students and faculty of color have left campus for a day of community discussion.

This year, the program included an optional anti-bias training for white students off campus and an optional educational program for students of color on campus. In response to backlash, Evergreen State has emphasized that its "Day of Absence" programs have always optional and said no white students or faculty members have ever been asked to leave campus.


There is a difference between asking people to consider leaving for the day and telling them to leave. You're either being dishonest or careless with your language - I'll leave it up to you to decide which.

Moreover the prof's objection seems pretty bizarre to me - the old formulation 'asked' students to leave to take part in the events too, but now that the racial categories have been reversed its now a problem?


So it's a mildly stupid and cheesy program, but not an outrage, and people are just massively overreacting? Bears crap in the woods. The Pope is Catholic. The Civil War was about how I want to oppress all the Southerners and steal all their stuff. Business as usual.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:34 pm

The Widening Gyre wrote:
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj28qAS8MWU

So these students are lashing out at staff over a perfectly reasonable objection to telling whites to leave campus for the day,


Time wrote:The incidents followed protests over race on campus last month, when student protesters confronted and called for the removal of a professor who objected to a plan to ask white people to consider leaving campus for a day of discussions about race. The plan for the program reversed the school's longstanding tradition of hosting an optional "Day of Absence and Day of Presence" during which students and faculty of color have left campus for a day of community discussion.

This year, the program included an optional anti-bias training for white students off campus and an optional educational program for students of color on campus. In response to backlash, Evergreen State has emphasized that its "Day of Absence" programs have always optional and said no white students or faculty members have ever been asked to leave campus.


There is a difference between asking people to consider leaving for the day and telling them to leave. You're either being dishonest or careless with your language - I'll leave it up to you to decide which.

Moreover the prof's objection seems pretty bizarre to me - the old formulation 'asked' students to leave to take part in the events too, but now that the racial categories have been reversed its now a problem?

They also started throwing a hissy fit when a professor (The same one that said he didn't agree with the Day of Absence change, where yes, the students were trying to get white people to leave the campus) said that professors should be hired based on skills or merit, instead of personal finances or race. Keep in mind that said professor actually has a history of fighting and protesting against racism.

Yeah, no, they're being punks.
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Postby The Alexandrian Polis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:38 pm

New haven america wrote:They also started throwing a hissy fit when a professor (The same one that said he didn't agree with the Day of Absence change, where yes, the students were trying to get white people to leave the campus) said that professors should be hired based on skills or merit, instead of personal finances or race. Keep in mind that said professor actually has a history of fighting and protesting against racism.

Yeah, no, they're being punks.


This is pretty much my opinion.

Threaten to cut their funding thereby forcing them to listen to the professor? We would essentially presenting an ultimatum for the side of free speech.

I'm just waiting till the Liberal-Conservative victim complex comes in and this becomes massively political.
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Postby Neo Balka » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:45 pm

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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:45 pm

The Alexandrian Polis wrote:
New haven america wrote:They also started throwing a hissy fit when a professor (The same one that said he didn't agree with the Day of Absence change, where yes, the students were trying to get white people to leave the campus) said that professors should be hired based on skills or merit, instead of personal finances or race. Keep in mind that said professor actually has a history of fighting and protesting against racism.

Yeah, no, they're being punks.


This is pretty much my opinion.

Threaten to cut their funding thereby forcing them to listen to the professor? We would essentially presenting an ultimatum for the side of free speech.

I'm just waiting till the Liberal-Conservative victim complex comes in and this becomes massively political.


Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.
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Postby The Alexandrian Polis » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:48 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
The Alexandrian Polis wrote:
This is pretty much my opinion.

Threaten to cut their funding thereby forcing them to listen to the professor? We would essentially presenting an ultimatum for the side of free speech.

I'm just waiting till the Liberal-Conservative victim complex comes in and this becomes massively political.


Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.


That also works. It even negates the headache-inducing "debate" that would follow.

People don't tend to follow the sensible idea though.
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Postby The Novakian Empire » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:50 pm

The Alexandrian Polis wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.


That also works. It even negates the headache-inducing "debate" that would follow.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:55 pm

This is pretty normal for Evergreen. It's a batshit crazy place
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:13 am

USS Monitor wrote:
The Alexandrian Polis wrote:
This is pretty much my opinion.

Threaten to cut their funding thereby forcing them to listen to the professor? We would essentially presenting an ultimatum for the side of free speech.

I'm just waiting till the Liberal-Conservative victim complex comes in and this becomes massively political.


Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.


Educating that separating thr races is wrong would be a good start. Because you know segregation is exactly the goal MLK was working for.
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Postby The Novakian Empire » Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:44 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.


Educating that separating thr races is wrong would be a good start. Because you know segregation is exactly the goal MLK was working for.

Not sure if sarcasm or confused.
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Postby Dilange » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:11 am

>Students ordering the school president to buy them things for a pot luck luncheon

>Same students claim they are being oppressed

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Postby Conserative Morality » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:13 am

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There is a difference between asking people to consider leaving for the day and telling them to leave. You're either being dishonest or careless with your language - I'll leave it up to you to decide which.

Moreover the prof's objection seems pretty bizarre to me - the old formulation 'asked' students to leave to take part in the events too, but now that the racial categories have been reversed its now a problem?


So it's a mildly stupid and cheesy program, but not an outrage, and people are just massively overreacting? Bears crap in the woods. The Pope is Catholic. The Civil War was about how I want to oppress all the Southerners and steal all their stuff. Business as usual.

A classic story of "If they're oppressed, why can't I be oppressed too? =^^^("
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Postby Dilange » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:17 am

USS Monitor wrote:Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.

Wont happen. The president will continue to allow these sort of actions to continue to happen. Watch the video of him talking with the rest of the students (especially the one with the "claustrophobia")

The guy's a pushover.

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Postby LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:58 am

USS Monitor wrote:
The Alexandrian Polis wrote:
This is pretty much my opinion.

Threaten to cut their funding thereby forcing them to listen to the professor? We would essentially presenting an ultimatum for the side of free speech.

I'm just waiting till the Liberal-Conservative victim complex comes in and this becomes massively political.


Or the college could work out its own problems and the rest of us could mind our own business. Just a thought.

When they use everyone else's tax dollars, and release these brats into the wild, they're making it our business.

They've failed to work out their own problems. Something drastic needs to be done to counteract the kind of insanity going on at college campuses these days.
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